好我会问你一系列问题 Okay, I'm gonna ask you a series of questions,
不过这些问题没有标准答案 and there are no right or wrong answers.
那么关于未来 So when you think about the future,
你都有哪些设想呢 how do you imagine it'll be?
比如 大自然会变成什么样 Like, what will nature be like?
你住的城市会发生什么变化 How will your city change?
家庭成员会有什么娈化 Will families be the same?
哪些事会让你久久铭记 哪些会随时间散落 What will stay with you, and what will you forget?
什么事会让你害怕 What scares you?
什么事会让你生气 What makes you angry?
什么事会让你感到弧独 Do you feel lonely?
什么事会让你觉得快乐 What makes you happy?
我们正在全国范围周游 So we are goin' around the country,
去不的城市里 采访孩子们 goin' to different cities and interviewing kids,
各个年龄阶层的都有 采访他们对生活的看法 ranging in age, um, just about their... their life
以及他们对未来的构想 and what they think about the future.
如果我问的某个问题你不想回答 If I ask you anything that you don't wanna answer,
或者你不喜欢这个问题 或任何原因 or you don't like a question or whatever,
直接拒绝就可以了 you can just be like, "No."
我希望你们能感到自在放松 I want you to just feel comfortable,
如果我问的问题里 and if there's anything that I ask you about
有任何你不想讨论的话题 that you don't wanna talk about,
只要说"我不太想谈这个"就好 say "I don't really wanna talk about that."
我觉得成年人总是自视甚高 I think adults always think they're the boss,
要插手掌管所有事情 and they always gotta be the boss of everything.
我还觉得有些成年人思想太固执 And I think that some adults have that mindset
总是觉得"我是对的你是错的" where "I'm right and you're wrong."
关于未来 When you think about the future,
你都有哪些设想呢 how do you imagine it'll be?
我 I...
我想 同时也希望 未来世界会很美好 I imagine and hope it'll be good.
那么你有没有思考过 And do you ever think,
比如说成年人要做些什么 like, what could adults have done
才确保我们在为美好的未来奠定基础 to have made sure that we went in the right path?
那最重要的一定是 更加留心 Definitely most of all, paid more attention
就是说留心发生在身边的事 to, like, what's going on around them,
因为我觉得这个问题现在很严重 'cause I feel like that's a big problem
处处都在发生 with, like, literally everything.
就是说 是很严重很严重的事 Like, that's a big, big thing.
他们会说"哦 你是底特律来的" They'll be like, "Oh, you're from Detroit."
我会回答"是的" I was like, "Yeah."
然后他们说"你那边很危险的" Like, "It's really dangerous there.
"学校也都很烂" "The schools are really terrible
"底特律真是一无是处" "and, like, nothing's good there."
我就回答"你很了解吗" I was like, "Well, how would you know?
"你又不住在那里 "You don't live there,
"也没上过那边的学校" "and you don't go to school there.
"你又不是底特律长太的" "You weren't raised in Detroit.
"而我可是在底特律出生长大的" "Like, I've been raised in Detroit all my life."
美国 呃 真的是 America, uh, it's so much...
充满了悲剧 It's so much tragedy,
有人遭受着不公 and some people aren't treated fairly,
遭受着种族歧视 性取向歧视 because of race, because of who they like,
出生地歧视 because of where they live,
还会因为贫穷被歧视 because of how much money they have.
所以我希望未来能变得美好一点 So I would want it to become a better place
也希望大家能够明白 and people to know
就算一些人和你很不一样 that just because someone isn't like you
也不代表这种不同是不该存在的 doesn't mean that they're wrong,
但是其实我也不确定啊 but then I'm not sure.
我们现在所处的时间点 We're at the point right now
正是要做出改变的节点 where we have to change things,
而基于我们人类的道德良知来看 and just based on our morals as people,
我真的不觉得这种改变会很快到来 I don't really see that happening anytime soon.
所以你...你对未来有信心吗 So, you're... You're hopeful for the future?
就是说当你畅想未来世界的时候 Like, when you think about the future,
你觉得未来 会更美好 还是更糟糕 you think it'll be better or worse?
就我个人而言 For me, personally,
我觉得世界会娈得更好的 I feel like things are gonna get better,
因为我现在有很多机会 because I have a lot of opportunities right now.
我对自己很有信心 I'm hopeful for myself,
对别人也是 for other people.
我不知道未来能不能变好 I don't know if things are gonna get better,
真的很难说 it's really on the side,
但是我真的希望一切都有好结果 but I really hope things get better.
嗯 从世界整体而言 Um, but for the overall world,
我也是希望未来会更好 once again I hope it gets better,
但是可能 不是所有事都能变好 but it might not, like everything.
如果你能拥有一种超能力 If you could have one superpower,
你希望获得哪一种 what would it be?
这个问题很难回答 That's a hard question.
嗯 我经常会问大家这个问题 Um, that's one of the popular questions that I ask people.
有的人说 Some people say...
底特律曾是世界的未来 Detroit was the future.
所以我们来到 So we came to...
我们来到底特律 与当地的年轻人和孩子们交流 We came to Detroit to talk to young people, kids.
我们在底特律和孩子们年轻人们交流 You know, we came to Detroit to talk to kids, young people,
问他们 and to ask them
他们对自己的未来生活有什么设想 what they thought their lives would be like,
生活会如何变化 how it's changing for them,
他们会受到什么启发会期待怎样的变化 what are they inspired by and excited by,
以及他们现在的生活如何 and what are their lives like now?
嘿 Hey.
-嗨 -嗨 - Hi. - Hi.
真好,你给我打电话了 It's nice that you called.
我也不知道要不要给你打电话 I didn't know if I was gonna call
或者也许你会打 or if you would...
也许我们都不会打 If no one would...
今天很适合聊天 It's a good day to talk.
也许妈妈也在天上听着呢 Maybe Mom's listening.
是啊 也许吧 Yeah, maybe.
我都没感觉到这事儿已经一年了 It doesn't feel like it's been a year to me.
你觉得呢 Does it to you?
我也是 很奇怪 No, it's weird.
我今天都不知道自己应该做什么 I didn't know what to do with myself today.
嗯 我明白 我只要一工作 Yeah, I know. If I just, um, work,
就觉得自己没有在好好哀悼 then I feel like I'm not mourning
没有给予足够的重视之类的 in the right way or whatever.
但如果我就这么坐在死气沉沉的酒店房间里 And if I sit in this depressing hotel room
一直想着妈妈 and just think about Mom,
这种悲痛又太让人难以承受 then, yeah, it's just pretty brutal.
所以我就打给你了 So, yeah, I called you.
你在哪呢 Where are you?
嗯 我在底特律 Um, I'm in Detroit.
我在采访孩子们 I've been, um, interviewing kids.
这个工作很棒 Uh, so that was cool.
-很棒 -是的 - Cool. - Yeah.
杰西有一天在收音机上听到你了 Jesse heard you on the radio the other day.
哦 是吗 Oh, yeah?
对 我们当时正在开车 Yeah, we were driving,
然后你的声音照常出现在收音机里 and there you were on the radio as usual,
我还得告诉他那声音就是你 and I had to tell him it was you.
-真的吗 -他才九岁你知道吗 - Really- He's nine, you know?
他听不出你的声音 He didn't recognize your voice,
这才过去一年 it's been a year.
一年对孩子来说是很漫长的 It's a long time for a kid.
哇噢 Wow.
好吧 All right.
嗯 Yeah.
杰西还好吗 How's Jesse?
嗯他很好 Uh, he's so good.
他很聪明 但是也很古怪 He's smart, and he's so weird.
长大了 变有趣了 怎么说呢 他... He's older, and he's funny, and I don't know, he's...
他已经是个小大人了 He's... he's a whole little person.
嗯 然后保罗搬到奥克兰去了 Um, and Paul moved to Oakland.
是吗 He did?
对 Yeah.
哇 真的吗 Whoa, really?
是的 没什么的 Yeah, it's okay.
我是这样想的 I... It's... I think so.
杰西目前为止应对得还不错 Jesse is dealing with it well so far,
但是保罗不太行 but Paul's not.
-他... -嗯 - He is... - Hmm.
我是说 他... 我只是 I mean, he... I'm just...
他没事的 He's fine.
我只是得过去帮点忙 I just have to go up and help a little.
帮他安顿住所 Help him settle in.
哦 是吗 Oh, yeah?
对 Yeah.
我很快就要去了 没什么大问题 So I'm heading up there soon, but we're good.
所以你...要带杰西一起去吗 So you taking... You taking Jesse?
不带 No.
不带 这不是那种轻松的出门游 No, I don't think it's that kind of trip.
那杰西谁来照看呢 So who's watching Jesse?
我还没安排 I haven't gotten there yet.
-嗨 -嗨 - Hi. - Hi.
嗨 Hi.
嘿 Hey.
-打个招呼 -嗨 Say hi.
嗨 你好吗" "Hi, how are you?"
你好吗 How are you?
很好 你呢 I'm good. How are you?
我也很好 I'm good.
想不想请约翰尼叔叔进来坐坐呀 Hmm. Wanna ask Uncle Johnny to come in?
你应该间问我想不想进屋坐坐 You should ask me if I wanna come in.
你想进屋坐坐吗 Do you wanna come in?
-好 谢谢你 -没事 - Thank you. - Okay.
抱抱我可以吗 I get a hug?
-嗨 -嗨 - Hi. - Hi.
这个是 嗯 她的裙子 We have, um, her dresses
这些都是我的作业 um, all my homework stuff.
嗯 真不错 Hmm, cool.
妈妈说你今晚要睡楼上 Mom says you're gonna sleep up here tonight
躺在那张超级大 超级舒服 全家最好的床上 in her extra-big, cozy bed, best bed in the house.
有那些 超级 超级 超级大 So there are these, um, big, big, big, big,
超级大的 嗯 真菌管 big, um, little like fungus tubes
或者真菌形成的管子 or tubes that are fungus,
把所有的树都连在了一起 and they're connecting all the trees.
-就在上面 -嗯嗯 - so they're up here. - Mm-hmm.
它们长得很高很高 And they'd be really tall.
带着所有的食物 然后你就可以 They get all the food, and then you kinda,
通过管子从一棵树去另一棵树 like, go through the tubes into another tree.
然后 嗯 他们... And then, um, well, they...
他们就 带上所有的食物 They would, like, get all the food
然后穿过管子 and then it'll go through.
所以这些树就需要 And so the tree needs...
所以保罗过得怎么样 他在忙什么 So what's goin' on with PaulHow's he doin'?
我不知道 Oh, I don't know.
我是说他收到了旧金山交响乐的 I mean, he was offered this, you know, incredible position
非常好的入职邀请 at the San Francisco Symphony,
他的能力也完全配得上 which he totally deserves,
但是搬家的事把他搞没辙了 but the transition fucked him up.
-嗯哼 -搬家都是这样的 - Mm-hmm. - Like transitions always do.
然后...他还他妈有条狗 And... And then he got a fucking dog,
根本就不该养的 所以 which he should not have gotten, so...
-不会吧 -所以 没错 就是 - No. No. - So, yeah. It's just...
就是老样子 乱成一团 It's... It's... It's a total mess as usual.
你得过去给他打扫干净吗 And you have to clean it up?
是的 Yeah.
对保罗就这样 Yeah, that's Paul.
杰西呢 他知道些什么 What about JesseWhat does he know?
他什么也不知道 我只说我过去帮他收拾下 Nothing. I said I was gonna help him get organized,
所以我们以后会一起去的 so we'll go together later.
他跟我单独在一起没问题吧 He gonna be okay just with me?
就是说... Like, what...
他最喜欢我不在家了 He loves it when I'm not around.
这样他才能放肆玩 He'll have so much fun.
是吗 Yeah?
你回来了真好 It's really good to see you.
有人吗 Hello?
有人在家吗 Is anyone home?
-有人吗 -呃 你准备好带孩子了吗 - Hello- Uh, are you ready for this?
我的天 什么事 God, what?
-有人吗 -做好心理准备吧 - Hello- Brace yourself.
他喜欢扮个小孤儿 There's this, uh, little orphan
很喜欢来看望我 who likes to come visit me.
事实上 他可能要来看望你了 In fact, he will probably come visit you,
他喜欢假装我有过一些早夭的孩子 and he likes to pretend that, uh, I have some dead children,
然后他会狂问我 他们都做过些什么 and he asks me a lot of questions about what they did,
然后他就会去做一样的事 so he can do those same things.
-这也太离谱了 -没错 - That's fucked up. - Yeah.
真的是...超级正常的行为 It's really... It's totally normal.
所有孩子都这样 All the kids do this.
有人在家吗 Is anyone home?
我来了 I'm coming.
-嗨 -嗨 - Hi. - Hi.
是为了孤儿的事吗 Is this the orphan?
嗯 Mm-hmm.
我今晚能睡在这里吗 Can I sleep here tonight?
孤儿院只有双层床 They only have bunk beds at the orphanage
但是那些孩子睡觉都会打呼噜 and all the kids snore.
嗯你当然可以留宿 Hmm, of course you can.
呃其实我儿子今晚不在家所以 Uh, actually, my son's not here tonight, so...
如果你愿意的话我可以代替他 I could take his place if you want.
这个主意不错 That's a good idea.
他一般都是这个点就睡了 He usually goes to bed right now.
走这边 我正好有个房间 You know, this way, I happen to have a room
有张适合你大小的床 with a bed just your size.
你想去看一眼吗 You wanna check it out?
"桃乐茜住在堪萨斯的大草原上" "Dorothy lived in the midst
"和她的农夫叔叔亨利" "of the great Kansas prairies "with Uncle Henry, who was a farmer,
"以及农夫的妻子婶婶住在一起" "and Aunt Em, who was the farmer's wife."
她拥抱了我 她有点不太一样 She hugged me, and she felt different,
或者是我不太一样 or I felt different,
杰西可能对我还隐约有点印象 and, yeah, Jesse maybe vaguely remembered me.
也许有 也许没有了 Maybe. Maybe not.
嗒~ 嗒 嗒 嗒 嗒 Da, da. Da, da, da, da.
他和我说了树是如何相互交流的 He told me about trees communicating with each other
还讲了树之间的联系很紧密 and how connected they were
通过地底的真菌脉络相连接 by an underground network of fungus.
爱你 爱你 爱你 爱你 爱你 Love you, love you, love you, love you, love you.
爱你 爱你 爱你 Mmm.
看上去很不错 Love you, love you, love you.
噢 舒服了 好了 继续睡觉吧 Oh, cozy. Okay, go back to sleep.
早上好 Good morning.
太响了 It's loud!
今天是周六 It's Saturday.
我周六就是会很吵 I get to be loud on Saturdays.
-你妈刚走了吗 -嗯哼 - Mom just left- Uh-huh.
她说你可能会有点无所适从 She said you might be a bit awkward.
什么 What?
她说你可能会有点无所适从 She said you might be a bit awkward.
但是你会习惯的 But you'll get used to things.
你能不能把声音关小点 Will you turn it down a little?
她在厨房给你留了些纸条 She left you some notes in the kitchen.
这是话筒吗 Is that a microphone
还是 还是和耳机一体的 or is it a... in the headphones?
什么 Huh?
你的...你的话筒是和耳机一体的吗... Is it... Is the mic in the headphones and...
还是说这个就是话筒 Or is that the mic?
这个就是话筒 This is the mic,
我先调一下音量 and I'm just gonna get a quick little level.
小点 Careful.
嗒 嗒 嗒 嗒 嗒 Da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
对于未来 So when you think about the future,
你有哪些设想 what do you imagine?
嗯 我不想...我不愿意想 Um, I don't wan... I don't wanna.
你不愿意想象一下未来吗 You don't wanna imagine what the future's like?
我不想回答问题 I don't wanna do the questions.
-好吧 -哦 这是什么 - Uh-uh. - Oh, what's that?
-嗯 -这里有螺丝钉 - Um... - There's a screw there,
还有很多按钮 and there's loads of little buttons.
嗯那个是...增强键 Well, that's the... That's the gain.
增强键 The gain?
嗯 这样你才能知道... Well, it's how you know how much...
来 把耳机戴上 Here, put these on.
可以听到一些声音
看到了吗 Do you see this?
来 Here.
-能听见吗 -我可以... - Can you hear that- I can...
-没错 -听见 - Yes. - ...hear that.
嗯 所以这个旋钮就是用来调整输入音量的 Yeah. So this is what you adjust for an input volume.
现在超级安静 Now it's super quiet.
然后把它旋到最大 So turn it all the way up,
你就能感受到了 you can feel that.
好玩吗 Having fun?
这里面的声音听上去都好奇妙 It all sounds amazing in here.
我爸爸一定会喜欢的 My dad would love this.
约翰尼 Johnny!
怎么了吗 You need something?
我妈妈会给我讲故事 My mom tells me stories.
虚构或者真的都可以 It can be fiction or non-fiction.
小朋友 我不知道有什么故事可以讲 Oh, boy, I don't know any stories.
啊~ Um...
我们能不能就聊聊天 相互了解一下 Can we just talk and get to know each other?
她为什么忽然就不再联系你了 Why did she stop talkin' to you?
嗯我们有联系呀 Um, we talk.
你们没有 No, you don't.
嗯 我也不知道 I mean, I don't know.
你们以前是不是会有很多话说 Did you used to talk a lot?
是的 Yeah.
约翰尼 你去哪里了 Johnny, where have you been?
-嗨 -过来帮我个忙 - Hi. - You can help me.
好的 需要我做什么 Yeah, what do you need?
他要来接我了 He's coming to get me.
谁要来了 Who's coming?
我得穿戴整齐一点 I have to get dressed.
爸爸要带我去机动车辆管理局 My dad's taking me to the DMV.
我的毛衣在那边 My sweater was over there.
扶我起来 Help me up.
我今天要去领驾照 I'm gonna get my license.
我不懂你为什么要纵容这种妄想症 I don't know why you give in
to those delusions like that.
你认真的吗 Are you serious?
是啊我认真的 Yeah, I'm serious.
你他妈认真的吗 Are you fucking serious?
放松 我扶着你呢 Easy, I got you.
快点 Hurry.
我为什么不能顺从一点哄她高兴 Why wouldn't I entertain it?
让她做想做的事吧 你为什么 Just let her have that. Why you...
什么事情 What's going on?
我爸爸要来接我了 My dad's coming to get me.
妈妈 你要不 嗯 Mom, why don't you, um...
不如我们躺下等你爸爸来吧 Why don't we wait for your dad lying down?
你就是要纵容她 You just give in to her!
你总是要纵容她 You always just give in to her!
-这种事正是 -不管她的想法有多荒唐 - This is precisely... - Whatever she wants!
应该顺从她 让她去做的 ...what you should give in to.
你到底在说什么 那都不是她了 - What are you talking about- It's not her, though.
那都己经不是她了 It's not even her...
你到底什么毛病 What is your problem?
你想知道我为什么反对吗 You know what my problem is?
-你说啊 -就是因为 - Yeah, yeah. - It's that
这么多年来 我是我们中唯一一个 for our entire lives, I am the only one
站出来对抗他们的 whoever challenged them.
真的吗 这么多年来只有你 ReallyReallyFor our entire lives?
是啊 就是这样 Yes. Yes, really.
你的生活真是轻松 So easy for you.
他们反反复复地让我觉得自己是个疯子 They made me feel like I was a crazy person
而你对此无动于衷 again and again and you just went along with it.
但你根本不给别人帮助你的机会 You don't exactly make it easy to help you.
也许吧但是我确实需要你的帮助 Well, maybe, but I needed your help.
听着 你现在失去的是一个爱你的母亲 Look, you're losing a mom who adored you.
她真的爱你 She just did.
而我失去的只是一个从来无法理解我的人 And I'm losing one who never understood me.
好了 妈妈 Okay, Mom.
"你能这样穿很好 博克说道" "'It is kind of you
"蓝色是地精们穿的颜色 "'to wear that, ' said Boq. "'Blue is the color of the Munchkins,
"白色是巫婆穿的颜色" "'and white is the witch color.
"这样我们就能知道你是个友善的巫婆了" "'So we know you are a friendly witch.'
"桃乐茜不知道该说什么" "Dorothy didn't know what to say.
"桃乐茜不知道该如何回应" "Dorothy did not know what to say to this,
"因为似乎所有的人都觉得她是个巫婆" "for all the people seemed to think her a witch,
而她也... -你为什么没有结婚 - "and she knew..." - Why aren't you married?
嗯 我和一个人 Um, I was with...
我以前和一个人相处了很久她叫路易莎 I was with somebody for a long time, Louisa.
"而她也很清楚" "And she knew very well
"自己只是个普通的小女孩" "she was only an ordinary little girl
"阴差阳错地因为一场龙卷风" "who had come by the chance of a cyclone
才了这片奇怪的地方" -你爱过她吗 - "into a strange land." - Did you love her?
我现在依然爱着她 I still do.
那你们为什么要分手呢 Then why did you break up?
我不知道 I don't know.
"她看舞蹈看厌烦了以后" Um... "When she had tired watching the dancing,
"博克...博克领她进了屋" "Boq... Boq led her into the house,
"带她走进了放着一张漂亮小床的房间" "where he gave her a room with a pretty bed in it."
不是我提出的分手 I don't think it was my choice.
嗯 我觉得 Mm, I think, um,
你们互相爱着 you love each other,
到现在依然互相爱着对方 and then you still love each other,
但却很难再把这种爱意表达给对方 but find it hard to express that love to each other,
于是只能互相看着 and so then you look at each other,
然后就这样了 and you do this.
然后你意识到"哦" And you go, "Oh."
你知道吧我是说 You... You know, I mean,
我希望你不会经历这种事 I hope you don't have the experience,
但是你以后大概也会经历的 but you probably will.
其实还好了 It's all right, actually.
"那个" Um, "The sh..."
"漂亮的小床" "Pretty bed in it.
"床单由蓝色的布料制成" "The sheets were made of blue cloth,
"桃乐茜美美地睡了一觉 "and Dorothy slept soundly..."
好了 晚安 Okay, good night.
嗯 所以如果 Um, so what happened...
给他读了《绿野仙踪》 Read him The Wizard of Oz,
亲了他的额头 kissed him on the head,
说了晚安 and said good night,
然后他问我 为什么我不结婚 and he asked me why am I not married.
我没告诉他 其实我想结婚 I didn't tell him that I wanna be,
我很想念路易莎 that I miss Louisa.
这些话到嘴边就变成了玩笑话 I made it into a weird joke.
我为什么要这样做 Why'd I do that?
不久以前 Not so long ago,
在遥远的北极村庄 in an Arctic village far away,
住着一家北极熊 there lived a polar bear family.
有北极熊爸爸 北极熊妈妈 There was a papa polar bear, a mama polar bear,
还有北极熊宝宝 and a baby polar bear,
他们都深深爱着彼此 and they all loved each other very much,
但是家里有些不寻常的事 but something was not quite right.
熊宝宝知道家里不对劲 Baby bear knew something was wrong.
但他从来不说 只是一直在担心 He never said a word, but he worried all the time.
他担心着他的爸爸 He worried about his papa.
因为 熊爸爸总是很难控制自己的情绪 You see, Papa Bear had a hard time controlling his feelings
有时候他做的事让宝宝和妈妈 and sometimes he did things that upset,
感到难过 有时候甚至会吓到他们 and even scared Mama and Baby Bear.
所以要么警官是在下毒 很糟糕 整个行动
所以我应该管你叫"老爹" So should I call you like "Papa"
还是"爸爸"还是"约翰尼" or "Dad" or just "Johnny"?
你就怎么顺口怎么来吧 You can call me whatever feels comfortable to you.
呃我...我不知道 Uh, I... I don't know,
因为我一般没有可以选择的机会 it's just I'm not used to being able to choose.
也许我们可以慢慢来 Maybe we can just take this process slowly
然后...然后你体会一下自己的感受 and... And see... See how it feels.
嗯好的 Mm-hmm, yeah.
我真的很抱歉你的孩子都过世了 And I'm just really sorry that your children died.
这一部分我没法配合你演 Um, you know, I don't think I can do that part.
我和你说过我和妈妈就是这样演的 Yeah, I... I told you that's how me and Mom do it.
如果 ...你妈妈觉得这样很合理 If it's... makes sense for your mom to do that,
也挺好 但是我觉得这种事不合理 that's cool, but it doesn't make sense for me
这也是我想对你解释的 and that's what I was explaining to you.
为什么你会觉得不合理呢 这就是 Why it doesn't make sense for youIt's...
因为这种假设很可笑 Because it's ridiculous.
-是不是 -很悲伤 - Is it... - It's sad.
问题在于你为什么会想这样扮演 The question is why do you wanna do it.
你真的很不擅长演戏 You are just terrible at this.
我的天 我在努力啊 Oh, man, I'm tryin'.
让我...我问你一个问题 Let... Let me ask you a question.
为什么你做的事都要像这样 Why does everything have to be like this kind of weird,
-古怪又诡异 -因为我喜欢 - eccentric thing that you do- 'Cause I like it.
没错 但是为什么不能做点 Yeah, but why not just
-正常的事 -怎么样算正常 - do something normal- What's normal?
比如说你的真实生活里发生的 Like everything in your real life...
怎么样算正常 What's normal?
好吧 行吧 有道理 Okay, fine. Good point.
我唯一拥有的 The only thing that I do have
就是我知道自己在说什么 is that I know what I'm saying.
（嗨，能和你谈谈吗） 我家里的家人关心我 I'm in a home where people care about me
我的朋友也关心我 而且...单独谈谈？ and I have friends that care about me and...
这就是完全的随机性 That's the total randomness.
比如这里什么都没有 Like there was nothing.
这里有个三角形 It was like a triangle one on this one
这里有个正方形 and a square on this one,
然后这半块是三角形的 and half of the block would be a triangle,
另一半是一个单词 and the other half would be a word,
然后他们问我"你能解出来吗" and they'll be like, "Can you figure it out?"
那个看上去和这块地板很像 It looked very similar to this floor here.
嗨 Hi.
嘿 发生什么了吗... Hey, what's... what's going on?
哦 情况太糟了 Oh, it's really bad.
他真的需要帮助 He really needs to go somewhere for help
但是他不让我...不让我帮他 and he's not letting me, uh, get him there.
我睡觉上班 I'm sleeping, I'm going to work,
-我有... -你睡过觉吗 - I have... - Are you sleeping?
我当然睡觉了 I am sleeping!
你一般睡多久 How many hours do you usually...
这很重要吗 Does that matter?
我有睡觉 我有睡觉的 I'm sleeping, I'm sleeping!
他整个人都他妈的太偏执了 You know, he's totally fucking paranoid.
我稍微一提起来... Just the second I bring it up...
你知道吧 我只是想往包里装点东西 Yeah, you know, I just tried to put some things in a bag
然后他整个人就失控抓狂 and he totally fucking lost his mind.
你把这些衣服全拿走了 And you took all these clothes
我要去那里住一两个月 if I'm gonna be there for a month or two months
-反正很久 -没有 没有 我们不用 - or whatever. - No, no, no, we don't...
我们不用住这么久 别这样 we don't have to. No, no, no.
因为我想把我的东西全带过去 Because I want all my things there.
我知道我能让他自己办理登记入住 I know that I can get him to check himself in,
但是我就是 我要适当停下来 but I've just... I've gotta lay off
慢慢引导 and just slow down.
所以你能不能帮我 So can you stay with Jesse for me
再照看杰西几天 for another couple of days?
我给杰西学校打过电话 把你的名字给他们了 I called Jesse's school and put you on the list,
你可以...你就可以接送他上学了 and you can... You can just bring him to school
把他扶起来 and pick him up.
这样可以吗 Can you do that?
可以的 Yeah, I can.
嗯 Um...
哦谢谢你 Oh, thank you.
但是 小芙 你知道吗 But, uh, Viv, you know,
我本来周五要回纽约去做采访的 I'm supposed to do these, um, interviews on Friday
但我再想想办法吧 back in New York, um, but I'll figure it out.
你可以吗 不会...不会太勉强吧 You willYou can... You can do that?
嗯 没事 我会想到办法的 Yeah, don't... I'll figure somethin' out.
好的 Okay.
谢谢你 Thank you.
听着 别跟他提一个字 好吗 And listen, you just don't say anything to him, okay?
嗯 好的 Yeah, okay.
我们第一场采访 I think our first one
应该是周六的9点 你到时候能回来吗 is maybe 9:00 on Saturday. Will you be back for that?
嗯 绝对可以 Yeah, definitely.
好 Cool.
你的意思是你能在这个时间前回来 Is that something where I'll see you before that
还是说需要我把采访前笔记发给你 or should I send you the pre-interview notes
费恩南多把飞机给我们了 Fernando gave us for like the plane?
嗯 对 我到时候会过去的 Um... Yeah, I'll be there,
但是 嗯 还是发给我吧 but, um, yeah, just send it,
好让我拿到先看一下 just... just so I have it and I'll look at it,
但是 我应该会在周五 but, no, I'll be in, um, Friday.
呃 其实我也不知道 我还没买票呢 Well, I don't know, I haven't figured out a ticket yet,
-但是 -嗯... 好的 - but, um... - Okay.
我会想到办法的 I'll figure somethin' out.
你那边...小芙和其他事还顺利吗 And how's... How's like Vivs and stuff?
很好 Good.
-是吗 -是的很好 - Yeah- Good. Yeah.
是的 我是说 嗯 Yeah, it's, um, I mean, you know,
我们正在锻炼呢 we're just working out,
不过 嗯 这个孩子特别棒 but, um, this kid is fucking great.
他戴上了 Yeah?
他戴上了耳机 拿着话筒 而且 嗯 He's got...
你把录音设备拿给他看了吗 He's got the gear on and he's, uh... Oh, have you been showing him like audio recording stuff?
你有没有去过纽约 Have you been to New York?
没有 No.
从来都没去过纽约吗 Never been to New York?
从来没去过纽约 Never ever been to New York.
你不觉得这些阳光沙滩 You don't think all the, like, sunshine and sand,
还有这些人 有点无聊吗 and bodies is kinda boring?
不觉得 No.
噢 我的天 Oh, man.
你知道吗 你应该跟我去纽约 You know, you should come with me.
什么 What?
没错 跟我一起去纽约吧 Yeah, come with me to New York.
你是说...现在就走吗 Like... Like, right now?
不是现在就走 不过也很快 Well, not right now, but, yeah,
我这周末有 I have to go this weekend
采访的工作要做 你可以给我帮忙 to do interviews and stuff, and you can help me.
你懂的 录音 You know, record sound
然后也许我可以 and maybe I can,
把这些放进节目里 like, weave that into the show.
我很乐意 I think it'd be fun.
我想去 I'd love that.
我回来了 Hi!
过来 Come here.
保罗 Paul?
呃 所以保罗不见了 Uh, so Paul is gone.
保罗 Paul?
呃 他不接电话 Uh, he doesn't answer his phone,
我不知道他去哪了 I don't know where he went.
呃 他真的想让你帮他吗 Uh, does he even want help?
我感觉他只是 I feel like he just...
他只是想让你回到他身边 照顾他 He just wants you back taking care of him.
哦 天哪 拜托 别...别和我提这个 Oh, God. Oh, please, don't... Don't start.
我现在没法和你理论 I can't do this with you right now.
你先听我说一下 我知道你压力很大 Just hear me out for a second. I know you're stressed out,
但先听我说一下 but just hear me out for a second.
你觉得我把杰西带去纽约怎么样 What if Jesse came with me to New York?
他说他想去 我觉得 嗯 He said that he wanted to and I think that, um...
他说他想去是什么意思 What do mean, he said he wanted to?
你已经问过他了吗 You already asked him?
-没有我们只是聊到了纽约... -天呐 你已经问过他了 No, we talked about New York...
他说他从来没去过纽约 Oh, God, you already asked him.
冷静点 And he said he'd never been there.
约翰尼 你怎么能不征求母亲的意见 Calm down.
先跑去问9岁的小孩他想不想去纽约啊 Johnny, you don't ask a nine-year-old kid if they want go to New York before you ask their mother!
小芙 我是想帮忙 我想帮你 Viv, I wanna help, I wanna help.
-上帝啊 -听我说 - Jesus Christ! - Listen to me.
我想给你帮忙 这就是我提供帮助的方式 I'm tryin' to help you and this is a way that I can help.
那你真是帮了倒忙 Well, that's not helpful.
呃 Uh...
那我再给别人打打电话吧 I'll call somebody else.
我来想办法 I'll figure it out.
我靠在墙上 And I sat on the wall
等他放学出来 waiting for him to come out of school,
然后我听到全校的孩子都放学跑了出来 and then I heard all the kids coming out of school,
小跑着下楼 大声说着话 running down the steps, talking loud,
然后他出来了 and then he came down.
然后 他细细的声音 And then, this stupid little voice
跟着他可爱的小脸和头发冒出来 with this cute little fucking hair and face,
他说"你和妈妈说过了吗" he was like, "Did you talk to Mom?"
我说"说过了" I said, "Yeah."
"她怎么回复你的" "Well, what did she say?"
"她说她很爱你" "She loves you very much."
因为我没法告诉他真话 'Cause I couldn't tell him.
嘿 Hey.
听着 你能不能在纽约找到人 So listen, can you find somebody in New York
可以在你工作的时候照看他 to watch him when you're working?
这个你有办法实现吗 Is that a realistic plan that you could make happen?
可以的 Yes.
-真的吗 -可以的 - Yeah- Yes.
那你的人选是谁 Who would that person be?
我会找一个人出来的 I'll find someone.
我会找到的 我保证 I'll figure it out, I promise.
好吧 好的 Okay. Okay.
我给杰西的老师打了电话 I called Jesse's teacher,
解释说家里有紧急情况 and said there's a family emergency,
我要出门一周 and I'll be out for about a week.
我把他的作业发给你 I'll send you his assignments.
别担心 Don't worry.
好 好 Okay, okay.
-好的 -好吧 - Okay. - Okay.
"在我们的文化里" "Motherhood is the place in our culture
"我们将自身的冲突" "where we lodge, or rather bury,
"以及作为一个完整人类的意义" "the reality of our own conflicts,
"寄托给 甚至理所当然地归责给母亲对我们的培育" "of what it means to be fully human.
"母亲的培育成了我们个人和政治失败的替罪羊" "It is the ultimate scapegoat for our personal and political failings,
"成了为世界上一切错误负责的替罪羊" "for everything that is wrong with the world,
"于是这些问题就成了" "which it becomes the task, unrealizable of course,
"要由母亲来修复的任务 但显然不切实际" "of mothers to repair."
"我们这样对待母亲 本质上就是在期待" "What are we doin' to mothers when we expect them
"在我们想不透社会和自身出现的难题时" "to carry the burden of everything
"就让母亲来承担解决一切的责任" "that is hardest to contemplate about our society "and ourselves.
"母亲们没有退路" "Mothers cannot help, but be in touch
"只能被迫面对人性中最难以相处的一面" "with the most difficult aspects "of any fully-lived life."
"到底为什么要由她们来承受一切" "Why on earth should it fall to them
"独自担起粉刷世界 消灭邪恶和危险的责任" "to paint things bright, and innocent, and safe."
这首歌会让你们摇滚到死 It's gonna rock you dead,
脑浆沸腾 你们准备好了吗 come upside your head. You get ready?
你们说 开始 耶 好 来 You said, here we go. Yay, all right, come on.
一起来 一起来 Come on. Come on, let's go.
耶 Yeah.
好了 所有人 准备好舞起来 All right, everybody, get down on your basement.
准备好 没错 来吧 Get ready, yeah, okay.
嘿 把手举高 Hey, put your hands up
纽 约 市
放在膝盖上 Upside your knees
学鸵鸟低头 Now do the ostrich Do the ostrich
耶 耶 耶 Yeah, yeah, yeah
学鸵鸟低头 Do the ostrich
嘿 往前一步 放在头上 Hey, take this forward and step on your head
学鸵鸟低头 And do the ostrich
学鸵鸟低头do the ostrich Do the ostrich All right
继续 哦 哇Here, we go, oh, whoal Do the ostrich
Here, we go, oh, whoa!
哇l Whoa Whoa
Whoa All right
Do the ostrich
You take a step forward then you turn to the right
And do the ostrich Do the ostrich
Oh, oh, whoa, whoa, yeah, yeah
Do the ostrich
You turn to left
And then you feet upside your left
And do the ostrich Do the ostrich
Oh, oh, oh, oh Do the ostrich
Now, you go, whoa...
好长的桥 It's so long.
你喜欢这里吗 Do you like it here?
什么 What?
你喜欢纽约吗 Do you like it here in New York?
喜欢 Yeah.
你更喜欢哪个 What do you like better?
在这里录音 还是在沙滩上录音 Recording here or at the beach?
这里 Here.
但我更喜欢 ...我喜欢滑滑板的人 But I like the... I like the skaters.
你喜欢玩滑板的人 You like the skaters?
是的 Yeah.
你知道我为什么喜欢录音吗 Yeah, you know, what I love about recording?
我为什么会这么喜欢录音 What I love about recording?
你能听到我说话吗 You can hear me?
-可以 -哦 算了 我真是太 - Yep. - Oh, whatever, I'm so...
-说呀 说呀 说呀 -不说不说 - No, no, no, no! - No, no.
-不是的 就是 -哦 好吧 好吧 - No, just... - Oh, okay, okay.
这样很酷 And in a way it's cool,
因为你可以保存这些声音 对吧 because you get to keep these sounds, right?
可以永远保存这些声音 You keep it forever.
你把尘世间的声音录下来 You make like this mundane thing,
却能让它变成永恒 就很酷 很有趣 like be immortal, and that's cool and fun.
你儿子说 比起洛杉矶他更喜欢纽约
小 叛 徒
真希望能看看他在那的样子
-看这边 -嘿 - Look here. - Hey.
-嘿 -你好吗 朋友 - Hey. - What's up, man?
-嘿 你好吗 -你好 - Hey, what's up- Hello.
-很高兴认识你 -这是杰西 - Nice to meet you. - This is Jesse.
-杰西你好 -杰西 这是费恩 - Jesse. - Jesse, this is Fern.
-他是全纽约最温柔的人 -你好 - Fernando Thomas. - Hello.
我工作的时候 就由他负责照顾你 This is the sweetest man in New York. He's gonna help take care of you while I'm workin'.
你有没有注意到约翰尼最喜欢亮灯的景色 Also notice how Johnny just like lights up?
我发现了 I know.
他就像...迷你版约翰尼 He is like a... like a mini Johnny.
没错 Right.
戴着...戴着 With the... with the...
-戴着小兜帽 -没错 小兜帽 - With the little hoods... - Yeah, the little hoods.
还有柔软的头发 And the flopsy hair.
什么 怎么啦 WhatYeah.
-随便转转 -嗯哼 - Just hangin' out. - Uh-huh.
-嗯嗯 -好了 - Mm-hmm. - You know, we're gonna
你得再吃两口 hold off till we eat more.
再吃几口 We're gonna hold off till we eat more.
抱歉 I'm sorry.
得再吃点东西 We're gonna hold off till we eat more.
-就放在这里 -嗯 - It's right here. - Mm-hmm.
你先把这个吃了 因为冰淇淋已经在融化了 So if you eat this, 'cause it's melting,
如果你能用最快的速度把这个吃了 if you eat this as quick as you can,
也不要太快 只要再多吃几口 not too fast, but just get so many... A few more bites
你就能吃冰激淋了 and you can have the ice cream.
吃吧 不够我再去拿 Go for it. You did it.
-行了行了 -嗯 - Enough. Enough. - Mm.
你在网上见过的最疯狂的事是什么 Craziest thing you've seen on the internet.
-好吧 -说吧 - Okay. - Go.
就是我...我喜欢看阴谋论 So I... I like conspiracies.
很好 Perfect.
-太好了 -给我们说 - Great. - Tell us...
我们...再吃点西兰花 Uh, let's eat... Just a little bit of broccoli
-然后再说 -好的 - and then talk about... - Yeah.
-我喜欢阴谋论 -好的 再吃点 - I love conspiracies. - Okay, a little bit
西兰花 然后再说吗 好的 of broccoli and then we can talkUh-huh.
对 然后再说...再说你的阴谋论 Yeah, and talk... then ou can talk about conspiracies.
就是说政府拥有一批蚂蚁 Yeah, the government got, like, a colony of ants.
我觉得是这么回事 This is how I think it happened.
-好的 -放在石头里 - Okay. - And like in the rock
然后放在死人的尸体里 and they place it inside a dead person.
-好的 -然后能让死人复活 - Okay. - And they made him alive
然后这个人就...体内就有了非常多的蚂蚁 and he has a plan... planets of ants inside of him.
-哦 蚂蚁... -哦 这个超吓人 - Oh, ants... - Oh, this is scary stuff.
-费恩 -嗯 - Fern. - Do, um...
-费恩 -我知道一个 - Fern. - Uh, I know one.
-嘿 嘿 嘿 -好了 我给你看SCP基金会 - Hey, hey, hey. - Oh, I'll show you SCP.
-好的 -不要给他看手机 - Yeah. - No screen time.
-好的 好的 好的 -你搜 SCP001 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Do SCP 1.
现在不要看手机 好了 Not screen time right now, come on.
有说到一个 是他们在森林里发现的大块头 One of them, it was a big thing that they found in like a forest
他们把它的脸剥下来 and they took the face off of it.
等等 你是说 Wait, like...
然后给它打了一堆注射剂 And injected it with a bunch of injections
-让它变得很强大 -哇 - to make it powerful. - Whoa.
他们想把它打造成政府的武器 It was meant to be like a government weapon...
然后利用它 ...they were gonna use.
你的朋友们也有你这些爱好吗 Do you... Do all your friends act like you?
完全没有 And that would be a big no.
约翰尼 Johnny.
嘿 嘿 嘿 嘿 嘿 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
你好啊 百老汇的日光浴 What up, Sunny Spa E Broadway?
我不知道这上面写了什么 I don't know what that says.
嘿 嘿 嘿 嘿 嘿 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
-哇 -好了 嘿 - Whoa! - Come on. Hey.
-嘿 怎么回事 -哦 - Hey, what's goin' on- Oh.
终于回来了 Made it back.
我好累 And I was tired.
累死我了 so tired,
但是他一点也不累 but he wasn't.
你有没有带你的牙刷 So do you have your toothbrush,
-我怎么没找到 -没带 - 'cause I don't see it. - No.
拜托 我...我让你装上的啊 Come on, I... I told you to pack it.
怎么你没带吗 WhatYou didn't bring it?
呃 没有 Um, I didn't.
你是不是难以表达自己的情绪 Do you have trouble expressing your emotion?
好吧 我现在感到非常沮丧 Well, I'm feeling pretty frustrated right now.
这样很好 That's good.
坐下来 把你的情绪发泄出来 Just sit down, you can let it all come out.
嘿 怎么了吗 Hey, you okay?
我的朋友们不像我这样说话 因为 My friends don't talk like me, because...
我其实没什么朋友 I don't really have friends.
我一般都是和大人一起玩 I mostly hang out with adults.
不行 杰西 不行 回床上去 No, Jesse, no. Back to bed.
我有吗 我...我都不记得说过这话了 I didI don't... I don't remember saying that.
我把他带到沙发上 让他躺下 I took him to the couch, I laid him down,
坐在他旁边一直到他入睡 and I sat with him till he was asleep.
我起身慢慢走回我的房间 I got up and slowly started walking back to my room.
我今晚不能和你一起睡吗 Can't I just sleep with you tonight?
你为什么让我把那些甜食全吃了 Oh, why did you let me eat all that sugar?
妈妈就不会让我吃 Mom would not let me eat that.
我的天 是你说她会让你吃的 Oh, my God, you said that she would let you.
你能不能和我说说妈妈小时候的样子 Can you tell me about Mom when she was a little girl?
我说"她很可爱" I said, "She was cute."
他说 He said...
我听说过她的男朋友们 I heard about her boyfriends,
然后她逃跑了 总是让自己陷入麻烦 and she ran away, and she got in trouble
全部的时间 all the time.
我听说她流过产 And I heard that she got an abortion.
我他妈要怎么回答这句话 What the fuck do I say to that?
连我都不知道这件事 I didn't even know about it.
你知道吗 女人的身体 You know, a woman's body is, um,
就是 也许所有人 like a... um, maybe every person.
就是包括你... Like you have the right...
对你自己的身体有决定权 ...of your own body
所以一个女人当然也有这样的权利 and a woman certainly has the right.
这就是... 这就叫"选择的权利" It's like... it's called "the right to choose".
好了 妈的算了 嗯 Okay, now fuck that. Um...
让我给你讲讲 我妈妈是怎么哄我睡觉的 Let me tell you how my mom puts me to sleep.
躺下 Now, lay down.
好的 Okay.
放松你的双脚 放松你的双腿 Rest your feet, rest your legs.
放松你的手 放松你的手臂 Rest your hands, rest your arms.
我妈妈绝对不会做这种事 My mom would never do this.
放松你的双眼 Rest your eyes.
放松你的嘴巴 Rest your mouth.
放松你的下巴 Rest your jaw.
放空你的大脑 Rest your mind.
别想任何事 No more thoughts tonight.
别担心任何事 No worries.
只想着天空中的星星 Just stars in the sky.
所以呢 他是不是有 So whatDoes he have something that it...
失眠的毛病 Is it a sleeping problem?
听着 可能只是被刺激过头了 你给他糖了吗 Listen, he's probably just over stimulated. Did you give him sugar?
你让他看你电脑上的那些乱七八糟的东西了吗 Did you let him watch shit on your computer?
没有 No.
那会让他特别癫狂的 'Cause that makes him crazy.
你得 慢慢习惯这些 You're just, uh, used to this.
为什么地上有那么多划痕 Like, why are there so many scratches?
我没法习惯这个 I'm not used to it.
有时候我真恨这个小兔崽子 I fucking hate it sometimes.
但我是那么爱他 胜过... I mean, I love him more than I...
比我自己想象的还要爱他 I can even understand
可正是因为我能设身处地地替他考虑 and that makes it even worse when I can
有时反而更糟糕了 barely stand to be in the same room with him,
他一直这样 滔滔不绝 going on and on, talking, talking...
有一根树枝 Another stick.
他永远在说无数毫无意义的事情 Relentlessly about nothing random nothingness,
时时刻刻扰乱我的思绪 interrupting every thought I might have...
-踢走踢走 把它踢走 -哦 天 我知道 - Kick, kick, kick, kick. - Oh, God, and I know.
从给他做午饭开始 一直到我刷盘子 From making him lunch and doing the dishes,
从给他做午饭开始 一直到我刷盘子 from making lunch and then doing the dishes,
从给他做晚饭开始 一直到我刷盘子 from making dinner and then doing the dishes,
从给他做午饭开始 一直到我出门买东西 from lunch, and then going grocery shopping,
一次 一次 又一次 他永远这样 on, and on, and on, and on, he never stops.
有蜜蜂 Bees!
他妈就是一个噩梦 It's a fucking nightmare.
是啊 Yeah.
慢点 Slow down!
你是不是也觉得我现在糟透了 Do you think I'm horrible now?
不 才没有 我很同情你 No, no, I have so much sympathy.
对了 你还得给他补充点蛋白质 好吗 Listen, you just have to get some protein into him, okay?
你知道的 那种恶心的卷饼 You know, those disgusting little, uh, rolls,
有蒜味腊肠和芝士什么的...他很喜欢 the salami and cheese things, just... He loves them.
我们现在去哪儿 Where are we going now?
去给你买 I have to find you
恶心的蒜味腊肠和芝士卷饼 some disgusting salami and cheese rolls.
从历史上来说 纽约象征着移民的未来和各种可能性 Historically, New York represents the future and possibility for so many immigrants.
我们采访了一些移民的孩子 We ask today's children of immigrants
让他们描述想象中的未来 what they think about the future
和现在他们所处的这个世界的样子 and the world they live in now.
我以前从没想过 I never thought that I would be this scared
我会如此恐惧未来可能会发生的事情 about like what might happen in the future,
但是现在 but then now,
我开始考虑这些事了 I'm starting to think about it,
比如我 没法...没法... like, I can't... I can't...
我没法想象动物都灭绝了会是什么样 I just can't imagine animals going extinct,
因为环境污染 可以说地球已经奄奄一息了 pollution, like, the Earth dying, basically.
我害怕的主要是 孤独感吧 So my fears would be like loneliness
就是那种 比如说 and, like, you know,
别人都不理解你 just like people not understanding you
就算他们也努力试着理解你 even though they're there to understand you
还有类似的情况 and stuff like that.
我觉得这挺恐怖的 It's just really scary,
因为感觉你只是弧身一人 'cause it feels like you have nobody.
我妈妈总是和我说 My mom always tells me like,
"我讨厌哭的小孩" "I hate kids that cry."
有一次我和她说: 天 我有... There was one time I told her, "Oh, my gosh, I can...
"我有哭的权力啊" "Like, I could cry, uh,
"大家都会哭啊"然后她说 "like, it's like a human thing to do," and then she's like,
"不 你应该很坚强" 之类的 "No, you're supposed to be, uh, strong and stuff."
我估计这就是我最讨厌的事情了吧 So, yeah, I think that's what I hate the most.
当别人用"说说又不会怎么样"给长篇大论结尾时 When people end up saying, "Oh, words don't hurt,"
我都...觉得很难过 it... like it gets to me so bad.
他们明明对你一无所知 却还是对你评头论足 People will just judge you without even knowing.
就好像一无所知并不是他们的错一样 It's like not even their fault that they don't know.
他们长大成人的过程大概和我不一样吧 They probably just wasn't raised like I am
他们不明白哪些事可以对别人做 哪些事不可以 knowing how to treat people, how not to treat people.
我不喜欢所有人都是一种 I don't like when everyone's
压力很大的样子 just in a stressed mindset
每个人都把自己封闭起来 and they're very closed into themselves.
他们拒绝和别人沟通 They just don't speak to each other
把自己藏起来 与世隔绝 and they're just like kind of hiding away
借此逃避现实 from like real life.
我喜欢那些 I feel like people
试着表达自己情绪的人 who try to express their emotions,
虽然...有些人很讨厌这种人 like they... they would get a lot of hate.
这种事在20世纪尤其多 It happened like more in the 20th century.
讨厌他们的人不允许他们做自己 So instead of letting them be them,
所以就用很恶劣的方法来反击 they wanted to oppose them in like bad horrible ways.
但我感觉 今时今日 表达自己的想法容易一些了 But I feel like now you could speak your feelings easier,
但仍然很难 but not easily.
兔崽子怎么样了？ Oh, sorry.
挺好的 咱俩发短信的功夫他还在取笑我呢
发消息 发消息 Texting. Texting.
-哈哈哈 -我在发消息... - Ha, ha, ha. - I am tex...
(保罗怎么样了) 喂 你在干什么 Oh, what... what are you doing?
你在那假装滑稽地发消息 Uh, hey, who are you mimicking here
(他更想走了) 是在模仿谁呢 with that fancy texting you're doing?
你才在滑稽地发消息呢 You're doing fancy texting.
我是在真的发消息 But I'm actually texting something.
-你才没有呢 -嘿 看这里 - No, you're not. - Uh, here.
保健与美容用晶 Health and beauty.
刚刚 和保险公司的混蛋们打了几个小时电话
哦 在这呢 Oh, here it is.
好了 选一个吧 我去找牙膏 All right, grab one of those and I'll find toothpaste.
为什么牙膏牙刷不放在一块呢 For some reason, they're not in the same aisle. I am a toothbrush
不 不要拿那个 Mm-mm, not... Not that one.
那会把你妈惹毛的 That'll flip your mom out.
抱歉 小芙
I am your toothbrush
你不能拿这个 You can't get that one.
好了 再选一个你喜欢的 Come on, find which one you want.
可我妈又不在这儿 Oh, she's not here, so...
但她总是对的 Well, she's right.
-所以 -拿这个嘛 求你了 - So... - Can I please have it?
得了吧 你刷牙的时候真的有必要... Oh, come on, you... You don't need a song...
-求你了 -听这个歌吗 - Please. - ...to brush your teeth to.
要是这次给你买了这个 The next thing you know, you're gonna need
你以后所有事儿都得有个电子产品激励你才行了 electronic stimuli for everything you do.
你知道吗 适应环境是很重要的 You know, it's important to just live in it, you know?
在平和安静的环境里 Peace and quiet.
你们这一代人都长歪了 Your generation is completely lost.
嗯嗯... Mm...
杰西 Jesse?
嗨 你有看到一个小孩吗 Hey, did you see a little kid running around here?
-你有看到一个小孩吗 -没有 - Did you see a kid here- No.
杰西 Jesse!
你在干什么 What are you doin'?
你真该看看你的表情 You should see your face.
你不能这样 你明白吗 Hey, you can't do that, you understand?
你吓坏了 You can't do that to somebody.
-适可而止 -适可而止 You're freakin' out.
-你适可而止 -你适可而止 - Stop it. - Stop it.
-别闹了 -别闹了 - You stop it. - You stop it.
-够了 -够了 - Stop! - Stop!
-不要闹了 -滚开 - Enough! - Enough! - You stop now! - Get off!
抱歉 我太过分了 Sorry, it's so ridiculous.
我刚才说 Do you know I just... I just said, you know,
"你不能拿这个牙刷" "You can't have that toothbrush,"
然后我走到另一边 and I went around the corner
去拿牙膏 for a second to grab toothpaste,
然后他就不见了 and then he disappeared.
我跑来跑去 想找到他在哪儿 So I'm runnin' after him, tryin' to find him,
然后他跳出来吓唬我 and he jumps out, scares me,
然后我... 我真的气坏了 我吼了他 and, yeah, I... I got angry and I yelled at him.
我吼了他 I yelled at him.
实在是 That's... It's...
这太糟糕了 It's... It's fucking awful.
我也经历过 I've done it.
我知道看着那双无辜的眼睛 I know that look in those little eyes,
让我更气了 it's the worst.
但没关系 But it's okay also.
你和他解释一下就好了 You know, you just have to explain to him
你当时被他吓坏了 所以你才吼他 that you were scared, and that's why you yelled,
然后和他道歉 你懂吧 and then you apologize, you know?
他不过是个小孩而已 和他坦诚交流就好了 He's... he's a person, you just be honest with him.
这叫做"修复关系" It's called "doing a repair."
网上有...网上有这个的攻略呢 There's... There's scripts for it online.
好吧 听起来... Okay, sounds...
-让我...我把... -挺简单的 - Let me... Let me... - Sounds easy.
-这才...-好吧 - This is not... - Okay.
一点都不简单 This is not easy.
我知道 我知道 一点都不简单 No, I know. I know, it's not.
嗯 Um, yeah.
-让我和他说说... -好的 - Let me talk to him and... - Okay.
现在我来吼他 Now, I'll yell at him.
好 谢谢你和我说这些 All right, thank you for talking me down.
等一下 Now, hold on.
嘿 杰西 你妈妈的电话 Hey, Jesse, it's your mom.
-喂 -你好呀 宝贝 - Hello. - Hi, sweetie.
你还好吗 Hi. Are you okay?
还好 I'm okay.
我只是和他开个玩笑 他没必要给你打电话的 I was just jokin' around, he didn't need to call you.
我知道 我知道你是在开玩笑 I know. I know you were,
但你确实吓到他了 杰西 but you really scared him, Jesse, okay?
你不能这样 You can't do that.
妈妈 为什么你站在他那边啊 Mom, why are you taking his side?
我不是站在他那边 宝贝 对事不对人 I'm not on his side. Sweetie, there are no sides,
你得听约翰尼的话 好吗 but you have to listen to Johnny, okay?
你现在住在他家里 他在照顾你 You're staying at his house, he's taking care of you.
为什么 Why?
他为什么要照顾我 Why is he taking care of me?
好了宝贝 Sweetie, come on.
对约翰尼好一点 Just be nice to Johnny.
我是个牙刷 I am a toothbrush
我的名字是时髦的画笔 My name is funky brush
我都不了解你 I don't even know you.
为什么我妈让我和你在一块 Why my mom let me come with you?
好了 小伙子 别这样 Hey, man, come on.
杰西 之前你不是也想来吗 Jesse, you wanted to come.
我又没得选 I didn't really have a choice.
她是一个很坏 很坏的妈妈 She's a horrible, horrible mom.
我知道 你不是真的这么想的 I know you don't really feel that way.
我的想法在我的脑子里 My feelings are inside me.
你又不知道我是怎么想的 You don't know what they are.
我知道你很生我的气 I think you're mad at me,
因为我也吓到你了... because I scared you and...
不 她总是想一出是一出 No, she just does what she wants.
不 不是这样的 杰西 No, that's not true, Jesse.
你什么都不知道 她就是这样的人 You don't know what you're talkin' about. She does!
你觉得你为什么会在这儿 Well, why do you think you're here?
你觉得你妈妈 Do you think that your mom
真的想和你分开吗 really wants to be away from you?
你觉得她想吗 Really?
她在努力帮你爸爸 She's tryin' to help your dad.
为什么我爸爸需要帮忙啊 Well, why does he need help?
他 He, um...
他怎么了 What's wrong with him?
他只是... 他... He just... He...
你想给你妈妈打个电话吗 Do you wanna call her?
我想要妈妈 I want my mom.
嘿 我也很抱歉 Hey, I'm so sorry.
嘿 等等 杰西 Hey, hey, Jesse.
杰西 Jesse.
我以为我在帮忙 I thought I was helping,
但不知道怎么回事 反而添乱了 and somehow it got away from me.
我也不知道为什么 I don't know even how.
他都知道什么 他都知道吗 What... What does he knowDid... Did he know?
他知道你们的事吗 Does he know everything?
嗯 他知道了 Yeah, he knows.
让我和他说吧 Um, let me talk to him.
嘿 杰西 Hey, Jesse.
告诉她我没事 Just tell her I'm fine.
来嘛 和她说说话 Come on, just talk to her.
和她说不通 She's impossible.
等等 别挂 别挂 等会儿 Hey, hey, hold on, hold on, hold on.
小芙 你说吧我开外放了 Viv, you're... You're on speaker.
杰西 宝贝 听我说 Jesse, honey, listen to me,
你爸爸会好起来的 your dad's gonna be fine.
好吗 Okay?
就像以前一样吗 Is it like before?
是的 Yeah.
对 就像以前一样 Yeah, it's like before,
他会好起来的 好吗 but he's gonna be fine, okay?
我不想让你担心的 但我还是搞砸了 And I didn't wanna worry you, but I messed up, okay?
我应该早点告诉你的 对不起 I should have told you, I'm sorry.
告诉她我没事 Tell her I'm fine.
呃 Um...
小芙 我很抱歉... Viv, I'm so sorry, uh...
没事的 没事的 It's fine, it's fine.
告诉他我爱他 也很想他 好吗 Um, just tell him I love him and I miss him, okay?
好的 Okay.
我得去找他了 I'm gonna go get him.
你的小孩会不会 Is your child like, you know,
因为不想洗头和你吵架 fighting about washing his hair,
我就总是那样 'cause I could do that anytime.
你不想聊聊吗 You don't wanna talk?
我不是正在聊天吗 Mm, I am talking.
你能好好说话吗 Are you gonna be like normal?
我现在就 正在 好好说话啊 I am talking, like, you know, normal.
好吧 Okay.
在孤儿院的时候我们得自己洗头发 We have to wash our own hair at the orphanage.
-那很难啊 -没错 - Ooh, that's harsh. - It is.
我很抱歉 Hmm, sorry about that.
真的很难 It is harsh.
算不上是惩罚 就只是 Not even as a punishment, just,
"自己洗头 傻孩子们" "Wash your hair, you dumb kids."
嗯 Yeah.
真是个糟糕的地方 What an awful place.
是啊 Yeah.
好了 Okay.
你现在要因为洗头发和我吵一架吗 Do you want to fight about washing your hair
然后让我给你洗头发吗 and then I'll wash your hair?
好吧 年轻人 我想你的头发该洗了 All right, I think we have to wash your hair, young man.
你怎么不洗自己的头发 老头 Why don't you wash your hair, old man?
先洗你的 Well, you first.
不 你先洗 No, you first.
我告诉你 I'm telling you right now,
你的头发该洗了 you're gonna have to wash your hair.
我告诉你 I'm telling you right now
你的头发该洗了 老头 you're gonna wash your hair, old man.
学得不错 我的声音是那样的吗 Nice. Is that how I sound?
-没错 -啧 - Yeah. - Ugh.
你是老·约翰尼 You're like old Johnny, Johnny.
我是约翰尼 I'm Johnny.
哈 头发就得这么洗 老头 Yeah, well, that's the way to wash your hair, old man.
"铁皮人" "The Tin Woodman
表示很满意 并放下了他的斧子 "gave a sigh of satisfaction and lowered his ax.
"舒服极了" 他说 "'This is a great comfort, ' he said.
"自从我生锈开始 我就一直举着我的斧子" "'I have been holding that ax in the air ever since I rusted
"现在我终于能放下它了" "'and I'm glad to put it down at last.
"现在 如果你给我的关节上油" "'Now, if you will oil the joints of my legs,
"我就会好起来的" "'I shall be all right once more.'
"然后他们就给他的腿上了油 "So they oiled his legs
"直到他能自由活动他的腿" "until he could move them freely,
"他一遍又一遍地感谢他们 让他获得了解脱" "and he thanked them again and again for his release."
你们还在听吗 Are you guys still there?
继续读 妈妈 Keep reading, Mama.
好 Okay.
"如果不是你们来了" "'I might have stood there always
"我可能要一直站在这里了 他说" "'if you had not come along, ' he said.
"你们为什么来这里呀" "'How did you happen to be here?'
"我们要去翡翠城" "'We are on our way to the Emerald City
见伟大的魔法师 她回答道 "'to see the great Oz, ' she answered."
小崽子睡着了
所以说他就那样走进屋里 So does he just like walk in to a room
假装自己是一个孤儿 and pretend to be an orphan?
也要分场景 There's different scenarios.
-好吧 -这...这很...听着 - Okay. - It's... It's... Listen...
你不会想知道的 真的 Okay.
好吧 你们自己解决吧 You don't wanna get into that, I promise you.
我正试着弄明白怎么和他交流 Okay. All right, I'll leave that between you. I'm trying like to figure out how to talk to him
所以我会试着配合... and so I'll try to play along...
-我懂 -用一种非直接的方式 - Yeah. - In an indirect way
其实这挺可笑的 他显然有话要说 and like, this is ridiculous. He wants to say something.
我开诚布公地和他说 I have to be open and so I say,
"嘿 小伙子 我知道" "Hey, man, I know
你有话要说" -嗯 - "you wanna talk about something?" - Yeah.
然后...嗯 我就这样看着他 And... Yeah, and I look at him like this,
-掏心窝子的眼神 -嗯 很真诚 - like real earnest. - Yeah, sincere.
然后他一副不屑一顾的样子 And then, he just is like dismissive,
弄得我很尴尬 我真的觉得很崩溃 and makes me feel stupid, and then I feel crushed...
然后...然后... And... And...
我知道听超来好像很好玩 And... I know it's funny now,
但是发生的时候 真的...让人精疲力尽 but when it happens, it's... It's frustrating.
嗯 Yeah.
他看起来游刃有余呢 He seems like he's doing good.
确实 但他应该再把麦克举高一点 He is, but he should be holding the mic
如果他想收那边的声音的话 他就得举高一点 if he wants to get that, you hold the mic up.
才不用呢 他会找到自己的方法的 No, he's gotta find his own way!
-是啊 -我们都是这样的 - Yes. - That's how we all did.
假设你要和 Let's say somebody your age
来自另一个国家的同龄人 that was coming from another...
-进行交流 -嗯 - Another country... - Yeah.
你会怎么和他们描述我们的国家呢 What would you tell them about the US?
你会在这里看到很多丑恶的事情 You come here and you'll see a lot of bad,
但是这里也很美 but it's beautiful.
虽然你可能会遇到方方面面的间题 Even though there could be like problems here and there, you know,
但是你也会看到 有一些善良的人 有金子般的心 you see all these good people who just have kind hearts
虽然他们不认识你 and, you know, and they don't even know you.
我和我爸之间有很多问题 There's been a lot of issues with my dad.
他现在在监狱里 He's in jail right now,
一切都 很困难 你懂吧 so everything is, like, crazy, you know?
我的妹妹 她其实并不明白 My little sister, she didn't, like, really see
到底发生了什么 what was actually going on.
她不明白我的处境 The stuff that I went through, I don't want her
我也不想让她明白 to know any of that or just be,
我希望她永远不需要面对这些 like, have to think about that.
每个人的生活中都有很多责任 You have a lot of responsibilities in your life,
有时麻烦就这样找上了门 and sometimes they just come to you,
你也无能为力 and you can't really do anything about them.
麻烦总会出现的 They're just there.
我很骄傲 I feel like a responsibility
我承担起了这份责任 to like that I'm proud to take,
因为我很爱她 because I love her a lot,
我也不介意 and basically, it wouldn't matter to me
扮演一个亦父亦兄的角色 if she sees me as a father or a brother.
嗯 大概就是这样 Yeah, that's pretty much it.
你是个好男人 You're a good man.
你多久...会去探望你父亲一次 How... How often do you... do you get to visit your dad?
我总去 Always.
我感觉我生活的动力之一就是 Yeah, I feel like that's one of my like motivations
去想象未来 to just think about the future.
未来的无限可能 Everything that could happen...
"我希望他们信任我 配合我 允许我进行记录" "I ask for trust, cooperation, and permission
"虽然我也不知道他们的经历" "without knowing where the experience
"会把话题导向哪里 "will lead the subject.
"我可以 也总是逃离 一个地方 一个窘境 一个难题" "I can and will leave a place, a situation, a problem,
"这些受访者不能" "but the people I interview cannot.
"这次的经历让我" "The work offers the interviewer
"有理由 也有渠道" "access and a reason
"去接触那些对我而言全然陌生的世界“ "to stay in a world that's not my own,
"和我现在的世界截然不同" "complete distraction from my own life,
"他们都有一种无形的 不可战胜的力量” "a sense of invincibility, a sense of invisibility.
"我在希望中前行“ "I traffic in hope
"虽然我也无法预测” "without the ability to know
"未来会发生什么“ "what will happen in the future.
"这次采访给了受访者们一个契机” "The work offers the subjects a chance to speak
"去谈论那些他们从末谈论过的东西“ "of things they have never spoken of,
"也让他们感觉到“ "a chance to see themselves as subjects
”自己是值得被重视 被倾听的对象" "worthy of time and attention.
"这次的采访" "The work offers the subjects
"让受访者们去设想自己的未来" "the creation of an image of self,
"虽然在这样一个大环境里" "the distribution of which they cannot control
"每个人都身不由己 "on a global scale, in perpetuity."
你知道吗 有很多 ...you know, there's, like,
其实有很多中国人 a lot of Chinese people actually,
所以交流起来不会很困难 so it's not, like, hard to communicate.
有的时候在别的地方我会... Sometimes in other places, I'm actually...
你让约翰尼采访你了吗 You let Johnny interview you yet?
噢 天 没有 Oh, God, no.
真是个明智之举呢 That seems like a smart move.
他的问题太多了 对吧 Too many questions with that guy, right?
永远都在寻求答案 Not enough answers.
我真的好想你 宝贝 Oh, I miss you so much, babe.
我也想你 妈妈 I miss you, too, Mama.
借过一下 Excuse me, please.
谢谢 Thank you.
我们一直在全国各地采访孩子们 We've been goin' around the country asking kids
他们对未来的看法 what they think the future would be like.
嗯 Uh-huh.
嗯 Um...
要是有你不想回答的问题 If there's anything you don't wanna answer,
你可以说"跳过"或者"不答" you can just say "skip" or "no,"
或者"我不想回答这个题" or "I do not want to do this question".
好的 Okay.
为什么你和我妈不能像兄妹一样相处呢 Why don't you and my mom act like brother and sister?
-你想问这个吗 -嗯 - This one- Yep.
你为什么总是一个人 Why are you alone?
得了吧 谁会在意我的回答 吧啦吧啦 I mean, who caresBlah, blah, blah.
都一样... The same...
就是说 谁会在意啊 Yeah, exactly, who cares?
在我爸第一次发病的时候 你有让我妈离开他吗 Did you tell my mom to leave my dad when he first got sick?
你有吗 Did you?
我告诉她 照顾好自己 I told her to take care of herself.
一堆敷衍的废话 Blah, blah, blah.
不 这不是敷衍的废话 No, it's not blah, blah, blah.
-这是 -不 不是 - It is. - No, it's not.
这就是 It is.
好吧... Okay...
-也就是说你说过 -我们每个人 - Means you did it. - There were many things
都做过很多事 说过很多话 that were done, and everybody said a lot of things,
担心过很多事情 and there was a lot of concern,
但很多时候我们自己也不清楚 and sometimes we don't completely understand
我们在做什么 我们为什么要做这个 对不对 why we're doing the things that we're doing, right?
但我从来没有 But I never did anything
做过故意伤害你妈妈 你爸爸 或者你的事情 because I wanted to hurt your mom
或者你的事情 or hurt your dad or hurt you.
我希望大家都好好的 I only wanted everything to be okay.
吧啦吧啦吧啦 Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
嗯 Hmm.
也许...这些都是废话 Maybe... Maybe it is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
都是废话 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
没错 Exactly.
从未知之地而来 Coming from somewhere unknown,
他和小孩一样高 he's as tall as a small person!
杰西大侠 Jesse the Man!
小心点 兄弟 Watch it, man.
不不不别这样 考虑一下我的感受好吧 Wait, wait, wait, wait. Have to do my expression, too.
你不能就这样蹦上来 好吗 You can't just jump right into it, okay?
-下去 -介绍你自己 - Go back. - Do your introduction.
好吧 All right!
它会毁了你 ！It will destroy you!
在吗 That's how you do it.
然后他说 "给我收拾东西吧" Then, he just said, "Pack my bag, get my stuff,
"把我送到医院去" "take me to the hospital.
"要是你不送我去医院 我又会乱跑 不是吗" "If you don't, I'm just gonna run away again, right?"
这倒是真的 Which is true.
然后我就带他去了急救室 So I took him to the ER,
真是太糟了 which was fucking awful.
很显然 保罗嘛 Absolutely, Paul.
药物的剂量必须非常精确 The milligrams have to be specific...
我们会确保这一点的 We'll make sure that they are.
因为马克林医生说过 Because Dr. Marklin said that,
他研究了好几个月 and he worked on it for three months,
但情况还是时好时坏 and it was still going back and forth.
我不是马克林医生 我... Well, I'm not Dr. Marklin, I'm...
你敢相信吗 约翰尼 I mean, you can't believe it, Johnny,
太丢脸了 it's so humiliating.
他们问他同一个问题 They just asked him the same questions
一次 一次 又一次 over and over, and over again.
我吃的食物的量 I have been eating
睡觉的时间 都很规律 and I have been sleeping the regular amount
就像以前那样 that I usually eat and sleep.
你问我问题 我就回答 You ask me a question, I answer it,
但突然你就去问她了 and then all of a sudden you ask her.
那你为什么不直接问她这些破事儿呢 Like, just why don't you ask her
之后我们 the goddamn question.
终于把他送到了一个真正的康复中心 And then we finally got him into a real center.
我之前来过这种地方 我知道 I've done this before, I know it all.
是的 不能有鞋带 你做得对 Yeah, no shoelaces, you're right.
他很害怕 He was so scared.
请你在这里签字 I'm gonna have you sign off
这些物品需要你带回去 that you're gonna be taking those things home.
-嗯 好的 这里吗 -是的 - Okay, sure, right here- Yeah.
等我要走的时候 他特别温柔地... And then when I was leaving, he asked me in the sweetest...
特别卑微地问我 我能不能再待一会儿 In the sweetest way if I could just stay
等他稍微好一点了再走 until he was a little better.
他的原话"稍微好一点" That's what he said, "Just a little better."
唉 我很抱歉 Oh, I'm so sorry.
我也想让杰西有爸爸陪着 And I want Jesse to have his dad, you know?
可是我又能怎么办呢 I mean, what the fuck can I do?
我也得 I've gotta...
嗯 你得陪着他 Yeah, you gotta stay with him.
真的 小芙 我们相处得很好 Really, Viv, we're doin' okay.
你专注于你需要解决的事情就行了 You just take care of what you need to.
杰西可以和我一起待着 Jesse can keep staying here with me.
我们在一块很开心 We're havin' a great time.
我找到了一个在新奥尔良的人 I found someone in New Orleans
她能帮我们找孩子接受采访 我觉得我们应该去一趟 who can get us kids and I think we should do it.
嗯 我明白 Okay, I know,
但我现在要照顾杰西 我可能 but I got Jesse and I just don't know
我现在可能没法过去 if I can make that, um, trip right now.
哦 可我不想一个人去 Uh, I don't wanna go solo.
主要是 No, it's sort of like
我们之前和观众和赞助者说过 we told, like, audiences, and funders...
-约翰尼 -大家都知道... - Johnny! - And everybody that we...
-约翰尼 -我们原计划去 - Johnny! - ...were gonna go
-很多城市 -约翰尼 - to multiple cities. - Johnny.
-约翰尼 我们去公园吧 -我们得照计划行事 - Johnny, let's go to the park. - I think we have to do it.
-等等 拜托 等会儿 -约翰尼 - Stop, stop. Please. - Johnny.
-停 -很遗憾 - Stop. - Unfortunately...
-别打电话了 -怎么了 - Get off your phone. - Yeah, what?
你是... Are...
你是...你是和杰西在一起呢么 Are you... Are you with Jesse?
-你们怎么样 -嗯 挺好的 - How's it going- Yeah, yeah, fine.
你刚才...你刚才说什么 So what... Where we at with things?
我觉得我们可以去新奥尔良 I think New Orleans is a good idea.
我有认识的人 I know someone down there.
她可以帮我们找受访的孩子们 She can get us kids.
我们只需要告诉他们我们要做什么 We just need to tell them we wanna do that
然后我们就能让费恩 and then we can have Fern,
给我们订票什么的 like, start booking everything for us.
我知道 但是如果 I know, but a lot...
杰西 Jesse?
你听见没 Can you hear me?
等一下 Hold on a second.
等我一下 Just, like, give me a sec.
你两天前还对这个想法很感兴趣呢 You were jazzed about the idea like two days ago.
-杰西 -你说我们只需要 - Jesse- You were like we just need
让你回到那个位置 to get you back to that spot.
现在不是时候 This is not a great time.
-嗯 对 -我 呃... - Yeah, yeah. - I, uh...
听着 我... Listen, let me, um...
先挂了 好吗 我之后再打给你 Let me call you back, okayI'll call you back.
好吧 Okay, okay.
杰西 Jesse?
杰西 Jesse.
该死 完了 Fuck. Oh, fuck.
妈的 Oh, fuck.
噢 Oh.
杰西 Jesse?
杰西 Jesse!
等等 杰西 Wait, wait! Jesse.
你刚去哪了 Where'd you go?
-我哪都没去 -不 你不在 - I was right there! - No, you weren't!
我在打电话 一转身 I was on the phone, I turned around one second
你就不见了 and you were gone!
听着 你不能自己乱跑 Hey, listen, you can't do that,
-你明自吗 -是你把我看丢了 - you understand- You lost me!
-我没有看丢你 -你有 - I didn't lose you. - You did.
我的错吗 好吧 是我的错 I lost youOkay, okay, I lost you.
我是世界上最差劲的叔叔 I'm the worst uncle in the world!
你干什么 What... What are you doin'?
嘿 下来 You, uh... Hey, come here!
我们上车干什么 What are we doin' here, huh?
不知道 I don't know.
你要是走丢了的话会很糟糕的 That could have been really, really bad.
我不需要你 I don't need you.
你太需要我了 You so need me.
他能感觉到现在的情况有多糟糕 He can feel how fucked up things are right now, okay?
所以...用他那不太会说话的孩子语言 So in his... In his little inarticulate kid way,
就是"我现在感觉失控了" he's saying, "I'm feeling out of control right now.
"你能处理好吗" "Can you handle it?
"你能理解我的这种感觉吗" "Can you take care of me feeling this way?
"如果我逃离你 如果我躲着你" "If I run away from you, if I hide from you,
"如果我跳上这辆车 我会没事吗" "even if I jump on this bus, am I gonna be okay?"
我就是在幻想 Oh, I'm just, like, in this fucking fantasy
一切都在我的掌控之中 that you know, I got everything under control
你知道的 我会准备好的 and, uh, you know, I'll... I'll be there,
我会把问题都解决的 我会给你准备零食 I'll figure it out, I'll get you snacks,
我会帮你打包行李 and I'll pack your bags,
然后我们就出发 我在想 and we'll go off, I'm thinking of goin',
"我不知道我他妈在做什么" "I don't know what the fuck I'm doing."
没错 Yeah.
是的 这就是我的生活 Yeah, welcome to my fucking life.
没人知道自己在做什么 I... Nobody knows what they're doing.
没人知道自己要怎么带孩子 Nobody knows what they're doing with these kids.
你只需要坚持下去 You just have to keep doing it.
我在大街上跑着 喊着他的名字 I ran up and down the street calling out his name.
一辆公交车从我面前经过的时候 I saw him from across the street
我从街对面看到了他 as a bus passed in front of me.
我飞奔向他 I ran towards him,
大声喊着他的名字 杰西 screaming out his name, "Jesse."
他在生我的气 他很害怕 He was mad at me, he was scared.
他转身上了一辆公共汽车 He turned, and he walked away, and got onto a bus.
我不喜欢这种感觉 但我觉得他被宠坏了 I don't like feeling this, but I feel like he's spoiled,
或者说我被宠坏了 or I am.
真不敢相信你会这么做 I can't believe you're doing this.
我知道 但我现在没办法照顾你 I know, but I can't take care of you right now.
-你可以的 -不行 等我把工作弄完 - You can. - No, but as soon
就会去洛杉矶... as I get done with work, I'll come out to LA and...
到时候你想做什么我都陪你 And we'll do whatever you want.
好吗 你觉得怎么样 All rightHow do you like that?
我的胃好疼 My stomach hurts.
那真惨 I'm sorry.
我要拉屎 I need to poop.
-是吗 -特别急 - You do- Right now.
-真的吗 -要喷出来了 - Really- I need to poop.
你就不能...憋着吗 You can't... you can't hold it.
我憋不住了 I can't hold my poop.
好吧 不好意思 师傅 你能找个加油站 Okay. Um, excuse me, sir, could you please pull over
或者餐厅靠边停车吗 at a gas station or diner?
-好的 -谢谢 - Okay. - Thank you.
再等一下就好了 Okay, just hold on.
谢谢 我们马上回来 Okay, I'll be right back.
来 Here.
有洗手间可以给他用吗 Hey, is there a bathroom he can use?
-在里面 -谢谢 - Down over there. - Thank you.
慢点 小心点 Okay, hold it, just hold, hold on.
-你还好吗 -不好 - You okay- No.
-行吧 -拉快点 Okay, well, hurry up,
我们还得...我们还得去机场呢 'cause we got... We gotta go to the airport.
-不 -什么 - No. - What?
你是真想拉屎吗 Are you going poop?
不是 No.
你真急着用厕所吗 Do you even have to go to the bathroom?
不是 - Huh- No.
你骗到我了 你真行 You got me. You got me.
小兔崽子 You got me. You... Shit.
好了 玩够了吧 该走了 All right, fun time's over, let's go.
-我们来不及了 -不要 - Time to come out. - No!
杰西快点出来 Jesse, come out right now.
-不要 -杰西 赶紧出来 - No! - Jesse, come out right now!
对不起 I'm sorry.
对不起 我躲起来了 对不起 我跑上公车了 I'm sorry I hid, I'm sorry I ran onto the bus,
对不起 约翰尼 对不起 I'm sorry, Johnny, I am sorry!
我听到你打电话了 I heard you talking on the phone.
你照顾不了我 You can't take care of me.
我不想回家 I don't wanna go home.
我妈只会为我爸的事难过 My mom is just gonna be sad about my dad
而我爸根本不在 and my dad's not even there.
好吧 Okay.
行吧 那... All right, just, um...
我马上回来 你先别出来 I'll be right back, stay in there.
Anyone
You can blame me
Try to shame me
And still I'll care for you
You can run around
Even put me down
Still I'll be there for you...
新奥尔良...是非常不同的 New Orleans is like... Is very different.
你在其他地方看不到的风景 You don't see it anywhere else
有时候我能理解 and, like, sometimes I understand
人们为什么想来这里 why people wanna come here,
因为这里太美了 太特别了 because it's like so beautiful and just so different
就是"我现在感觉失控了" to where it's, like, sometimes we need something different in our lives.
我觉得人们来这里的时候 I feel like people are sometimes being selfish
有时会很自私他们会想 when they come here, so they're like,
"我想看看不一样的东西" "Oh, I wanna go see something different,"
但人们没有考虑到 but you're not takin' in consideration
自己在哪里 about where you are.
如果他们继续 If they keep it up,
建民宿之类的东西 like buildin' Airbnbs and everything,
一切美景都将化为乌有 all of it is gonna be gone.
新奥尔良将不复存在 There is not gonna be a New Orleans,
但我也认为 我们 作为 but I also think that, like, we, as people
生活在新奥尔良的人 才造就了新奥尔良 and who live in New Orleans, make it New Orleans.
是的 Yes.
-嘿 你好吗 -我很好 - Hey, how are you- I'm good.
这是杰西 This is Jesse.
很高兴认识你 杰西 我是孙尼 Nice meeting you, Jesse. I'm Sunni.
-嘿 -嘿 - Hey. - Hey.
-谢谢你邀请我们 -客气什么 - Thank you for having us. - Absolutely.
-进来吧 快进来 -我很期待 - Come on in, come on in. - I'm excited.
-嗨 我是费恩 -嘿 你好吗 - Hi, I'm Fern. - Hey, how are you?
嘿费恩 很高兴认识你 Hey, Fern. Nice meeting you.
从这里穿过厨房 Through this way in the kitchen here,
后面有两个房间 and then there are two rooms back here.
约翰尼和杰西 我想你们可以住在这里 So Johnny and Jesse, I figure, you can be here.
浴室在... There's a bathroom...
她提到她不认为 She mentioned that she doesn't think
人之初 性本恶 我觉得 that humans are innately violent, which I thought
-这很有趣 -嗯 - was really interesting. - Mm-hmm.
她说她认为暴力事件 Um, and she said she thinks the violence
-发生在很久以前 -嗯 - took place a long time ago. - Mm-hmm.
只是被传下来了 And has just been passed down.
-传承 -对 - Passed down- Yeah.
-她确实说过 -然后她说 - She did speak about it. - And then she said that, um,
暴力是遗传基因里自带的 it's in people's genetic makeup.
但我们有能力... But we have the power...
-她就是这个想法 -操控这种原始冲动 - There you go. - ...to override that.
-对 -我当时 - Yeah. - Which I was like...
-嗯 -整个人都震惊了 - Yeah. - ...wow!
我想 你是看了哪位的著作 I'm like, "What PDFs are you reading?"
搞什么 What?
是的 你能相信 Yeah, can you believe...
我的恐惧可能是弧独 So my fears would be like loneliness
人们会不理解你 and like people not understanding you
尽管他们会来试图理解你 even though, they're there to understand you
诸如此类的 and stuff like that.
这真的很可怕 It's just really scary,
因为感觉自己弧身一人 'cause it feels like you have nobody.
好了 我给你们上一课 All right, listen, it's lesson time.
首先 作为成年人 "So first, as the adult,
要花时间去克服悲伤 疯狂 "take time for the sad, mad,
或恐惧的感觉 "or scared feelings to work their way through.
如何做到这一点取决于你的个性 "How this happens will depend on your personality.
平静地请你的孩子听你说完 "Calmly invite your child to hear you out.
可以一试 嘿 我犯了个错误 "You can try, 'Hey, I made a mistake
我想和你谈谈这个问题 "'and I would like to talk to you about that.
我可以进来吗 "'May I come in?'"
可以 Sure.
试着 "Try to..."
试试比如 "Try... Try something like,
我要送你回家的时候 你觉得难过吗 "'Did you feel hurt that I was gonna send you home?'"
嗯 很难过 Yeah, I did.
好 Yeah.
然后我得说 Uh, then I say...
我对自己的行为感到很抱歉 "I feel badly about how I behaved.
你在生我的气吗 "Are you feeling mad at me?
气的话也没关系 "It's okay if you are
我想听听你的感受和想法 "and I'd like to hear whatever you're feeling and thinking."
嗯... Mmm...
我还以为你是个讨厌鬼呢 I thought that you were being a pain in the ass.
嗯 Yeah.
然后是 Then, "I..."
"我感觉非常..."得用一个形容感觉的词 "I am feeling very..." Use a feeling word.
糟糕 愚蠢 脑子不灵光了 Shitty, stupid, totally out of touch,
还有 难过 and also, um, sad.
对不起 我不应该送你走的 Sorry, I shouldn't.
然后 看着你孩子的眼睛 "Then, from the bottom of your heart,
用心说出对不起 "look your child in the eye and say you're sorry."
噢 拜托 Oh, come on.
说啊 Say it.
对不起 I'm sorry.
我也很抱歉 I'm sorry, too.
都是你妈妈做的吗 Your mom does all this?
嗯 但是她不用从一个 Yeah, but she doesn't have to read it
破手机上看 from a stupid phone.
好了 别看手机了 Now, no more phone time for you.
好 不看屏幕了 No more... No more screen time.
我能和你睡吗 Can I sleep with you?
-什么 -我能和你睡一起吗 - Hmm- Can I sleep with you?
可以啊 Yeah. Hmm.
我能成为孤儿吗 Can I be an orphan?
你没事吧 Mm-hmm. You Tokay?
我只想当个孤儿 I just want to be the orphan.
好 Okay.
你想问问我过去的事情吗 Is there anything about my past you'd like to ask me?
你妈妈是什么样的人 What was your mom like?
她是个很好的人 She was nice.
嗯 Hmm, yeah.
你还记得她吗 Do you remember her?
记得 Yeah.
她总是在泡澡 She always took baths,
但她好像从来没机会泡澡 but she'd have like she never got to take 'em,
但她总是会泡澡 but she always took them.
她下班回家后 就把厨房打扫得 When she'd get home from work, she cleaned up the kitchen,
干干净净 all bangy and loud.
我会问"你为什么这么大声" Then I'd say, "Why are you being so loud?
"你是生气了吗" "Are you mad?"
然后她会回"我没有很大声" Then she'd say, "I'm not being loud."
她会写书 虚构的或者是真人真事 She wrote books, fiction and non-fiction.
When you skip-to-my-lou
她总是会唱她小时候的老歌 My darlin'
She's always singing old songs
from when she was a kid.
I'm gonna get ya
I bet you a bottom dollar You were best under pressure
Yo, Sandy I wanna like taste you
Get your, get your lips wet 'Cause it's time to have Pep
On yourmark, get set, go Let me go, let me shoop
在那个地方 你得... And in that place, you have...
她会想到很多奇怪的事情 比如鬼魂 She thought about weird things, like ghosts
化身 之类的事情 and incarnation, all that stuff.
她喜欢这里 She'd loved it here.
她会教课 She taught her classes.
当她压力太大的时候 When she was stressed out,
她就会给自己做一大块牛排 she would just cook herself a big steak
然后全吃掉 and just eat it.
她喜欢和朋友们一起玩 She loved hanging out with her friends.
她说即使我们彼此相爱 She says even though we love each other,
她也永远不会了解我的一切 she'll never know everything about me
我也永远不会了解她的一切 and I'll never know everything about her.
人生就是这样 It's just the way it is.
住手啦 Stop.
-呃 -你好奇怪 - Um... - You're weird.
好了 他想看多久手机 Okay, yeah. Time to screen time as much
-你就让他看多久 -好 - screen time as he wants. - Okay.
他想看多久就看多久 你看 你看 给你看 He can watch anything he wants.
只要不是少儿不宜的都可以 All the screen time he wants. Here, here, here, here.
看吧 放肆看 R-rated, anything, anything he wants. You know, here's your screen time.
-嗯 给他吧 -可以玩手机了 - Yeah, give it to him. - Here's your screen time.
你得确保自己眼皮别打架 You have to mak sure your eyelids stay open.
好好珍惜无限手机时间 Get as much screen time as possible.
如果他哭了什么的 就把手机收走 好吗 If he cries or anything, no screen time, all right?
-好 -嗯 - All right. - Yeah.
好了 你现在可以玩手机了 Okay, that was it, that was your screen time.
-谢谢 -嗯 - Nice. - Yeah.
幸福吗 Do you feel screenful?
超幸福 I feel screenful.
-是吧 -贼幸福 - Yeah. - Screenish.
你觉得成年人能理解 So do you feel like adults understand
孩子们的感受吗 what kids are going through?
我想很多妈妈可以 Um, I definitely think lots of moms do,
因为... 我就是觉得会 because... I think they do.
我很好奇 你说过这里 I'm curious, like, you said this was
是卡特里娜飓风中受灾最严重的地区之 one of the hardest hit areas of Katrina,
你听说过哪些风灾的故事呢 like, what are the stories you've heard?
有个人死在这房子里 Um, a guy died in this house,
但我相信鬼魂是善良的 but I like to believe that ghosts are nice
他们不会吓唬人 and they don't try to scare people,
除非他们是有目的的 unless that's their intention.
跟我说说你... Tell me about that, uh,
手臂上的纹身吧 tattoo you've got on your arm.
-没什么 -噢 - It is nothing. - Oh!
他的是我...到目前为止 his is what I... I've learned
对德文特的了解 about Devante so far.
德文特说"我的事就是我的事" Devante is like, "My business is mine.
"那是什么" "What's about that?
"我现在不想谈这个" "I don't feel like talking about that right now."
"什么纹身" "What's the tattoo?"
"别担那纹身是什么" "Don't worry about what's the tattoo."
你知道的 就是这种事 You know, this kinda thing.
你知道 我欣赏你哪一点吗 So, uh, you know, what I appreciate about you?
我很欣赏你... I appreciate the fact that you, um...
你把这个看作是神圣的东西 对吧 You hold what is sacred, right?
你觉得你死后会发生什么 So what do you think happens to you after you die?
我和我妈妈都是浸信会教徒 Well, me and my mom are Baptists.
我觉得会上天堂 Uh, well, I would say heaven, I feel.
我不知道那会是什么样子 I don't know how it would be like,
但我想象的是 有草甸 but what I imagine it, uh, I would say a meadow
一棵大树下 with a one big tree,
躺在铺满鲜花的草地上 and you just lay on the grass with flowers
抬头看着阳光 and you just stare up into the sun
微风徐徐 with a lot of breeze, obviously.
不会太热 You don't want it to be too hot.
是啊 我也是这么想的 Yeah, that's what I kind of imagine.
很美好 That's really beautiful.
你认为世界是公平的吗 Do you think that the world is fair?
不 没有什么是真正公平的 No, nothing's really that fair.
可能还会有 There's always gonna be, uh,
更多的战争 like, probably gonna be more war,
因为如果你继续在过去的基础上 since there's more things to fight about
继续努力 就会有更多的事情要抗争 if you keep on building onto what's in the past.
是什么导致你内心泛滥 What causes flooding within yourself,
是你的思想 within whether it's in your mind,
你的内心 还是你的精神 within your heart, within your spirit?
是什么导致了你内心的崩溃 What causes flooding, um, within you?
我觉得 不是那种 Um, I think it would be, like,
感觉 not, like, feeling that,
就像我说的 没人在乎我或者 like I said no one cares or, like, just feeling that
只是感觉 有时候我很弧单 I'm, like, alone sometimes.
但我知道很多孩子都在说 But I know a lot of kids are saying,
"噢 世界要完了"之类的 "Oh, the world's gonna end and all that."
我不觉得世界会毁灭 I don't think the world's gonna end.
我只是觉得这个世界没有像以前 I just think the world's not gonna be as clean
那么干净了 as it used to be.
假设你的父母是你的孩子... Say if your parents were your children...
你想让他们学到什么 What's something you would want them to learn?
你会教他们什么 What's something you would teach 'em?
不要自私 不要学坏 不要... Not to be selfish, not to be bad, and not to...
不要不尊重人 不要... And not to disrespect, and not to have...
和你们的朋友 And to have close feelings
和父母保持亲密的感情 for your friends, your parents,
而不是... and not to be...
如果我可以领导他们的话 if I were the one to be a lead.
如果你能改娈自己的一件事 If you could change one thing about yourself,
你会想改娈什么 what would it be?
我的态度 My attitude.
嘿 你的态度有什么问题 Hey, what's wrong with your attitude?
你看起来态度很好啊 You seem like you have a great attitude.
你会如何改娈自己 What would you change about yourself?
我的脾气 My anger.
在那里 颜色 感觉和声音 "There, colors, sensations, and sounds
会不断地冲刷着你 "will wash over you constantly.
你会看到很多生物 "You will see so many living things."
-嘿 -嘿 有什么事吗 - Hey. - Hey, what's up?
无法想象 "Beyond imagining..."
怎么样了 How's it going?
-感觉和声音... -谢谢 - "Sensations and sounds..." - Thank you.
会不断地冲刷你 "...will wash over you constantly."
-没问题 -没事吧 - No problem. - Hey. You're good?
-没事 -对不起 - Yeah. - I'm sorry.
-没事 -怎么了 - Yeah. - What happened?
没事 No. It's okay.
他就是...哭了一会儿 He just... There were some tears...
-为什么 -我们的零食吃完了 - Why- ...we ran out of snacks,
平板也没电了 坏事全撞一块儿了 the iPad died, it was like thing after thing.
我们只剩下葡萄干了 We only have raisins left.
-真糟 -我们不喜欢葡萄干 - Shit. - We don't like raisins.
我没计划好 我很抱歉 I didn't plan well, I'm so sorry.
不要说粗话 No, don't cuss.
嘿 抱歉 Hey, sorry.
-没关系的 -你还好吧 - It's fine. - You all right?
我去找莫里斯 Yeah, I'm gonna go find Maurice.
-好 -我马上回来 - Okay. - And I'll be back.
谢了 费恩 Thanks, Fern.
嘿 Hey.
-嘿 -没事吧 - Hey. - You okay?
就是不好意思 I'm embarrassed.
-不好意思是吗 -因为我哭了 - You're embarrassed- That I cried.
你哭了觉得不好意思 You're embarrassed that you cried,
不要不好意思 don't be embarrassed.
因为我通常不会哭这么凶 Because I don't usually cry that much.
我通常不会哭这么凶 Huh? I don't usually cry that much. It's okay.
没关系的 It's all right.
你生我气了吗 You mad at me?
没有 Mmm-mmm.
你能给我读完那本书吗 Can you finish that book?
-好 -拜托了 - Yeah. - Please.
要访问地球 "To visit planet Earth,
你必须以人类儿童的身份出生 "you will have to be born as a human child.
首先 你必须学会 "At first, you'll have to learn
使用你的新身体 "to use your new body,
移动你的胳膊和腿 把自己直立起来 "to move your arms and legs, to pull yourself upright.
你将学会走路和跑步 "You will learn to walk and run, to use your hands
学会用手发声和说话 "to make sounds and form words.
慢慢地 你会学会照顾自己的 "Slowly, you will learn to take care of yourself.
在这里 一切都是平静的 "Here, it is still and peaceful,
但在那里 颜色 感觉 "but there, the colors, sensations,
和声音 会不断冲刷你 "and sounds will wash over you constantly.
你会看到很多生物 "You will see so many living things,
植物和动物 超乎想象 "plants and animals, beyond imagining.
在这里 一切都是一样的 "Here, it is always the same,
但在那里 一切都在运动 "but there, everything is in motion,
一切都在不断变化 "everything is always changing.
你将被投入地球的时间之河 "You will be plunged into Earth's river of time.
你会有很多东西要学习 "There will be so much for you to learn
有很多东西要感受 "and so much for you to feel,
快乐和恐惧 幸福和失望 "pleasure and fear, joy and disappointment,
悲伤和惊奇 "sadness and wonder.
在你的混乱和欢乐中 "In your confusion and delight,
你会忘记你从哪里来 "you will forget where you came from.
你会成长 旅行 工作 "You will grow up, travel, and work.
也许 你会有孩子 "Perhaps, you'll have children,
甚至你自己的孙辈 "even grandchildren of your own.
多年来 你会努力去理解 "Over the years, you will try to make sense
你所处的快乐 悲伤 充实 空虚 "of that happy, sad, full, empty,
和不断变化的生活 "always-shifting life you're in.
当回到你的星球的时候 "And when the time comes to return to your star,
你可能很难和那个 "it may be hard to say 'goodbye'
奇异美丽的世界说再见 "to that strangely beautiful world."
该死的这本书 Damn this book.
-你在哭 -不 我没有 - You're crying. - No, I'm not.
你就是哭了 Yes, you are.
你肯定哭了... 看 你哭了... You're definitely cry... See, you're cry...
不 这只是...很有道理 No, it's just... It's true.
我们忘记了出生的一切 We forget everything.
不 我没有忘 你忘了 毕竟你蠢 No, I don't, you do. You're stupid.
是啊 你几乎不记得了 Yeah, you'll barely remember this.
你会对那趟旅途还会有一些 You'll have, like, a few blurry memories
模糊的记忆 of this whole trip.
太蠢了 That's... That's very stupid.
你就是最蠢的人 You're just the stupidest stupid person.
世界之最 而且 你的大脑容量 Ever. And, like, you have the lesser brain capacity
比一个死掉的人还小 than an actual deceased dead person.
所以 吃牛排这件事 So eating steaks,
我知道这个 I know this and...
-噢 -你以前总跟妈妈 - Oh! - You used to give mom
说这事 so much shit about that.
是啊 我老说 I did, didn't I?
真他妈不敢相信 I can't fucking believe it.
我也是啊 天呐 那个小混蛋 Yes, I am. God, that little shit
真该学学怎么保守秘密 needs to learn how to keep secrets.
嗯哼~ 嗯哼~ - Uh-huh- Uh-huh.
你怎么还没睡 Why are you still up?
好问题 我太累了 但睡不着 Good question. I'm so exhausted I can't sleep.
我就是...我要告诉你一件 I just... I'm gonna tell you something
作为一个母亲你无法理解的事 that as a mother you won't be able to understand,
但你得相信我 but you're gonna have to trust me.
一边照顾他 又要工作 真是... Taking care of him and working at the same time is...
-是啊 -太难了 - Yeah. - ...a little too much.
太耗精力了 It just takes a lot out of you.
明天 我要带他去参加孙尼跟我说过的游行 So tomorrow, I'm gonna take him to a parade that Sunni told me about.
你做得很好 You're doing so good.
是啊 他一直这么配合 Yeah, he's been such a trouper,
我觉得我欠他一段好时光 I feel like I owe him a good time.
尽管他 一直问我 Even though, he, um, keeps asking me
为什么我们不说话了 why we don't talk.
哦！ Oh!
不错啊 我喜欢这孩子 Cool. I like this kid.
那你怎么说呢 And what do you say?
就说了点糊弄过去呗 Apparently, some bullshit.
他没让你得逞吧 He didn't let you get away with that, did he?
没 No.
我不知道该怎么办了 I just don't know what to do anymore.
我可能没有话能糊弄他了 I'll probably run out of bullshit I guess.
你可以告诉他真相 Well, you could tell him the truth.
那听起来很有趣 That sounds fun.
告诉你9岁的孩子真相什么 Just tell your 9-year-old the truth. What...
说哪部分真相 Which... Which part?
那个 That I...
搞砸了你和保罗的关系 让我卷入了 messed up with you and Paul, that I got in the middle
不明白的事情中 of something I didn't understand?
这部分吗 That part?
嗯 这部分不错 Oh, yeah, that's good.
用这个开头不错 That's... That's a really good start.
还是妈妈死后 我们... Or was it when Mom died, we got in...
妈妈死后那些奇怪的事 into all that weird shit when Mom died.
这部分呢 That part?
你是说 就像我们一生中 You mean, like all that weird shit
那些奇怪的事 这些东西吗 of our entire livesThat stuff?
对 我们的一生 Yeah, our entire lives.
还是路易莎离开我的时候 Or was it when Louisa left me
一切都糟得不行 and everything just exploded.
这是你第一次这么说 You know, that's the first time you've said that.
这部分吗 Yeah, which part?
所有这些 All of it.
约翰尼 Johnny.
约翰尼 约翰尼 Johnny. Johnny, Johnny!
约翰尼 Johnny.
我没事 I'm okay.
-你还好吗 -你没事吧 - You okay- Are you all right?
-我没事 -约翰尼 - Uh, I'm okay. - Johnny.
-我没事 -别起来 约翰尼 - I'm okay. - Stop, Johnny!
约翰尼 Johnny!
慢点起 慢点 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
-我没事 没事的 -好 Take it slow. Take it slow.
没事的 - It's okay, it's okay. - Okay.
没事 It's okay.
我摔伤你了吗 Did I drop you?
我自己跳下来的 I jumped.
身手不错 Okay, good move.
我不知道怎么回事 I don't know what that was.
你晕倒了 You fainted.
什么 What?
好吧 我晕倒了 Okay, I fainted.
也许我们还是别跟别人说了 Uh, maybe we shouldn't talk about it with anyone,
困为太尴尬了 'cause it's embarrassing.
这不是尴尬 It's not embarrassing!
你一定被吓到了吧 That must have been scary for you.
没有 Nah-uh.
真的吗 No, really?
我没事 I was fine.
我觉得我有事 I don't think I was fine
我也不认为你没事 and I don't think you were fine.
我们有一个舒适区 We have a zone of resiliency.
当我们离开这个区域 我们就可以冥想 When we're out of the zone, we can meditate.
想一些能给你带来快乐的事情 Just think of something that can bring you joy.
当你感到压力过大的时候 When you're stressed out,
你可以用一些技丐 you can use some of these techniques.
按摩一下肩膀 扔扔石头分散一下注意力 Shoulder-tapping, rock-tossing.
数数手指什么的 Finger-touching.
或者把注意力放在呼吸上 Or mindful breathing.
或者 你也可以把压力甩掉... And, or you can just shake it off...
好啊 Yeah.
很不错 That's amazing.
谢谢你 Thank you.
你觉得我们像吗 Do you think we're alike?
才不像 God, no.
我们可像了 Yeah, we are.
-我们像 -不 我们不像 - We are, we are. - No, we are not.
一点都不像 No, we are not.
-像的 -不像 - Yeah, we are. - No, we're not.
不像的 No, we are not!
-我倒是希望我们像 -我才会像你那样晕倒 - Well, I wanna be. - I don't faint like you do.
不会 No.
但我知道很多孩子都在说 But I know a lot of kids are saying,
"噢 世界要完了"之类的 "Oh, the world's gonna end" and all that.
我不觉得世界会毁灭 I don't think the world's gonna end.
我只是觉得这个世界没有像以前那么干净了 I just think the world's not gonna be as clean
没那么容易走动 没那么容易呼吸 or as easy to get around or easy to breathe
没那么容易生活了 or easy stuff like that.
好的非常感谢 Yeah. Thank you so much.
这真的很有趣 This was really fun.
你有没有想过未来 Have you ever thought about the future?
噢 Oh...
你有没有想过未来 Have you ever thought about the future?
当然了 Uh, yeah.
无论你的计划是什么 Uh, whatever you plan on happening,
都赶不上娈化 never happens.
只会有很多意料之外的事情接踵而来 Stuff you would never think of happens.
所以你只能 你必须努力 So you just have to... you have to come on,
努力 努力 努力 come on, come on, come on, come on,
努力 努力 继续努力 come on, come on, come on,
不断努力 不停努力 come on, come on, come on, come on.
他睡着了 Uh, so he slept.
他连着睡了两晚 He slept for two whole nights
药也起作朋了 and he's responding to his meds,
所以医生说他可以接受治疗了 so the doctor said he can do outpatient care.
他刚告诉我他可以回家了 He just told me he can go home.
-他说了吗 -嗯 - He did- Yeah.
哇 呃 Wow. Um...
你怎么样 你还好吧 And how are youYou doin' all right?
说不准 还不错吧 I don't know. Yeah, just fine.
你想现在告诉杰西吗 Um, you wanna tell Jesse now?
好 Yeah.
约翰尼 真的谢谢你 Johnny, thank you so much.
没事 Okay.
杰西 是你妈妈的电话 Jesse, it's your mom.
喂 Hello.
嗨 亲爱的 你好吗 Hi, sweetie, how are you?
-挺好 -那就好 - I'm good. - Oh, good.
听着 你爸爸好多了 So listen, your dad's doing so much better.
医生会继续治疗他 The doctors are gonna keep helping him,
但他们认为他已经康复了 可以回家了 but they thought he was well enough to go home.
我会来接你的 好吗 So I'm gonna come get you, okay?
我先送摩西回家 I'm just driving Moses home
然后明天搭第一班飞机回来 and then I'm gonna be on the first flight out tomorrow.
我好激动 我等不及要见你了 Oh, I'm so excited, I can't wait to see you.
好 Yep.
-杰西 -把电话拿走 - Jesse- Oh, take the phone,
拿走 你来接 take the phone, take the phone!
杰西 亲爱的 你还在吗 Jesse. Sweetie, are you there?
杰西 Jesse?
你不用一直跟着我 You don't have to follow me everywhere.
拜托 孩子 Come on, man.
我没事 I'm fine.
是吗 Oh, yeah?
你有事也没关系的 You can be not fine.
但我真没事 But I'm fine.
好吧 你知道 当你不在你的区域内的时候 Okay, you know, when you're not in your zone,
你说的 舒适区 like, your zone of resiliency, it's...
心情不好也没类系的 知道吗 It's okay to not be fine, you know?
就像 你可以 Like, you can be
生气...悲伤 you know, angry, and... And sad,
迷茫 困惑 and... And lost, and confused,
这些都没关系 and that's okay.
但我真的没事 But I'm fine!
好吧 但如果你不爽 Okay, but if you're ever not fine,
你可以踢两脚 你可以发脾气 you can kick the air, you can throw a fit,
你可以大吼大叫 you can yell,
-都没关系 -我没事 - and it would be okay. - I'm fine!
你这样反应是没问题的 It'd be a totally reasonable response!
没人会怪你的 It'd be reasonable!
-你有事 -我没事 - You're not fine. - I'm fine!
好吧 我有事 Yeah, I'm not fine!
我没事 I'm fine!
我很不好 我也有理由不好 I'm not fine and that's a totally reasonable response!
来吧 孩子 Come on, man.
很好 Yeah.
-我不好 -这就对了 - I'm not fine! - Yeah.
我有理由可以不好 And that is a totally reasonable response!
对 糟糕透了 但没有问题 Yeah. This is fucked up and that makes sense!
糟糕透了 但没有问题 This is fucked up and that makes sense!
这么糟糕的事怎么会没问题 How could this being so fucked up make sense?
因为糟糕透了 It's fucked!
没错 Yeah.
你是在笑还是在哭 我看不出 Are you laughing or cryingI can't... I can't tell.
我想要有适当的反应 I wanna have the appropriate reaction.
嘿 孩子 过来 Hey, man, come here.
让我...让我看看你 Let me... Let me look at you.
-嗯 -你是在笑吗 - Mm. - Are you laughing?
你脸上是微笑吗 Is that a smile?
是你的傻笑吗 Is that your big stupid smile?
-你还好吗 -嗯 - Are you all right- Yeah.
那就好 All right.
你还会晕倒吗 Are you gonna faint?
不会 No.
我已经试过你说的方法了 捏捏肩 放松放松 I got my shoulder-touching, finger-tapping,
分散注意力 rock-throwing.
话说 你为什么要扔石头 Why are you throwing rocks, by the way?
你觉得我长大后会像我爸一样吗 Do you think I'm gonna be like my dad when I'm older?
我觉得你会更好 杰西 I think you have it better, Jesse.
为什么 Why?
因为你就是...我不知道 'Cause you are just... I don't know.
你更加了解自己 You know yourself more,
你能够表达自己 you're able to like express yourself
和自己的感受 这是你妈妈教给你的 and your feeling, that's what your mom taught you.
所以你已经遥遥领先了 相信我 So you are way ahead of the game, believe me.
说明你比他好多了 Means you're looking better.
一堆废话 Lots of blah, blah, blah.
搞笑点 逗号 如果可以的话 句号 Be funny, comma, when you can, period.
什么意思 What's that?
我爸爸以前也这么跟我说过 My dad used to say that to me.
-真的 -嗯 - Really- Yeah.
很有趣 That's funny.
嗨 Hi!
妈妈 Mama!
-嗨 -嗨 - Hi. - Hi.
-嗨 -你好啊 - Hi. - Hi, hi, hi.
-嗨 -噢 - Hi. - Oh.
嘿 Hey. Hey.
二 三 ...two, three...
-回见了 -回见 - Bye, you guys. - Bye.
所以他每顿饭都需要大量的蛋自质 So he needs a lot of protein with every meal
除了周末不准玩手机电脑 and no screen time on the weekdays.
周末 每天一小时 就这些要注意了 Weekends, one hour a day and that's it, all right?
再见 Bye.
我爱你 I love you.
我也爱你 I love you.
你有没有想过未来 Have you ever thought about the future?
呃 当然 Uh, yeah.
无论你的计划是什么 Uh, whatever you plan on happening,
都赶不上娈化 never happens.
只会有很多意料之外的事情接踵而来 Stuff you would never think of happens.
所以你只能 你必须努力 So you just have to... You have to come on,
努力 努力 努力 come on, come on, come on, come on,
不断努力 不停努力 come on, come on, come on, come on.
约翰尼 约翰尼 约翰尼 约鞠尼 Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, Johnny.
约翰尼有点奇怪 Johnny is a bit strange.
他真的很有趣 Um, he's really fun.
他总能逗我笑 He makes me laugh.
他摔跤的时候很有趣 He's really funny when he wrestles.
他可能是我最好的朋友 He might be my best friend,
因为他只有只有两个...两个... 'cause he only has only has two... two...
他只有两个朋友 He only has two friends,
但他可能是我最好的朋友 but he might be my best friend.
我不知道 I don't know.
吧啦 吧啦 吧啦 吧啦 Blah, bablah, blah, blah.
我会说 吧啦 吧啦 I would say so blah, blah,
吧啦 吧啦 吧啦 吧啦 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
吧啦 吧啦 吧啦 吧啦 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
准备好了吗 You ready?
嘿 杰西 我是莫扎特 Hey, Jesse, this is Mozart,
你热情又过于情绪化的叔叔 your intense and overly emotional uncle.
我醒来的时候 你在大声播放疯狂的歌剧音乐 When I woke up, you were blaring crazy opera music.
我很惊讶你妈妈离开了 I was surprised that your mom had left,
但你似乎并不在意 but you didn't seem bothered about it.
你就只是 You just pretty much...
接受了我 ...accepted me.
我给你看了我的录音机 I showed you my recorder,
但你不想接受采访 but you didn't want to be interviewed.
你录下了海滩城市的声音 You recorded the beach, the sounds of the city.
我得回纽约 I had to go back to New York
我要你跟我一起去 and I asked you to come with me,
你说"我很乐意" and you just said, "I'd love that."
你睡不着 And you couldn't sleep,
你的小嘴就没停过 and you were just talking a mile a minute,
你有那么多的事情要说 and you had so many things to say,
说录音的方法 and what about approaches,
以及要怎么录... and how to record...
我永远都做不到让你闭嘴 And I could never actually stop you,
我一直在找办法 最后我希望你能继续说下去 and then I kept trying, and I wish I wouldn't have.
我想听听你们疯狂的想法 Now I wanna hear all of your crazy thoughts
和酷炫的想法 and cool ideas.
然后我们躺在床上你问... And then we were in bed, you asked...
你之后会记得我 记得这些吗 Are you gonna remember any of this?
也许吧 Maybe.
今天可是我们超赞的过夜派对 And that's, like, our awesome sleepovers.
你说你不会记得 And you said you won't remember it.
不 我是说 你不会记得的 No, I said, "You won't remember it."
我会记得的 I'll remember it.
我不会记得吗 I won't remember?
我说"我希望你能记住" I said, "I hope you do,"
你很生气 and you got so upset,
然后我说 and I said,
"我会提醒你的" "I'll remind you of everything."
你觉得了解你的感受容易吗 Do you think it's easy to understand your feelings?
比如 有没有能...了解你感觉的... Like, do you have access to... To what you feel or...
我唯一能做的就是 Hmm, the only thing that I do have
我知道我很安全 is that I know that I'm safe.
-那很不错 -嗯 - That's beautiful. - Hmm.
什么让你感到安全 Uh, what... What makes you feel safe?
在一个大家都关心我的家里 I'm in a home where people care about me.
还有关心我的朋友 - Mm-hmm. - And I have friends
这样之类的关心 that care about me and everything like that.
我肯定会 Um, I would definitely
在抚养我未来的孩子的时候 take a lot of what my parents did
参考我父母做过的很多事情 into account of how I parent my future children.
我会告诉孩子们他们想要什么 I would talk to them about what they want,
他们觉得什么才是对他们最好的 and, like, what they feel would be the best for them,
然后让他们知道可以表达自己的想法 and make it known, like they could talk,
但我不会强迫他们 but I wouldn't force them.
我不会说"嘿你知道的" I wouldn't be like, "Hey, just so you know
"我们聊天谈心的" "we can talk all the time,"
因为有时父母会这么做 'cause sometimes parents do that.
这很烦人 - Mm-hmm. - And it gets annoying
他们会... and they'll be like...
有时候和别人说话 It's sort of scary, uh,
是有点可怕的 to talk to other people sometimes.
-嗯 -因为我个人觉得 - Mm-hmm. - Because, um, uh, personally,
你永远不知道对方接下来会说什么 I feel like you never know what they're gonna say next.
-所以... -是吗 - So... - ...right?
在你心里... 如果你有... In your... If you had this...
超能力 你会做什么 this superpower, what'd you do?
会是什么能力呢 What would it be?
我不知道 我觉得 I don't know. I don't think
我是不会用超能力的 I would ever, like, use a superpower.
我想我只会做自己 I think I would just be me.
-我就是我的超能力 -这样啊 - Like, me is my superpower. - Yeah.
我用我的能为来帮助别人 用... And like I use it to help people and use it in ways that's...
用前所未有的方式去改善 that have never been done before.
对 Mmm.
那真高尚 Yeah. That's super.
那你呢 朗顿 What about you, London?
你经历过的最糟糕的事情是什么 What's the worst thing that's ever happened to you?
呃 可能是 Uh, it would probably be either the fact that
因为我的性格不好 I can I have a nasty personality
会和我的兄弟姐妹发生冲突 that clashes with my siblings or the fact that
或者是因为我长大后 I might have to have surgery
可能要做这颗牙的手术 when I'm older on this one tooth
-因为... -嗯 - 'cause it's like... - Well,
也许人类已经灭绝了 uh, maybe humanity ends,
人类不再存在于地球上了 just humans cease to exist on this earth.
我的意思是 I mean, uh...
我不知道 I don't really know
这是好事还是坏事 if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
我是说 我希望... Uh, I mean, if we're...
是啊 我希望 Yeah, like I want
大家对彼此友善 everybody to be kind to each other and
我不知道 就是别对任何人有伤害 I don't know, like, any harm
任何愤怒 就为什么呢 or any anger towards anybody. Like, whyWhy?
不会 比起生某人的气 Wouldn't... Wouldn't you rather be happy
你难道不会想开心吗 than angry at someone?
为什么要做这些事情 Mm-hmm.
你明明可以快乐 And why do those things when you can just come together...
那么... 给我描述一下成年人 So... What... Describe adults for me.
你认为成年人是什么样的 Like, what do you think an adult is?
成年人的话 It's... An adult, mm...
所有成年人要做的就是赚钱 All adults have to do is get money
还学生贷款 就这样 and have to pay student loans. Got 'em.
我很兴奋 I think that I get excited
因为我知道我能做点什么 'cause I know that I can do something to make the world,
能让世界变得更美好 the world a better place and I also think that
但我也觉得 it's kinda devastating, because, like, I'm 14,
这个想法很可怕 因为我才14岁
我为什么要担心世界的样子 why should I be worried about the way the world looks,
或者 我能不能 or like, I should be able to...
你有没有想过 Do you ever think about
你死后会发生什么 what happens after you die?
尽管 科学的说法是 Even though, like, the scientific thing to say
我们不会再继续思考 is that we don't think at all,
我们的身体会开始消亡 our bodies decompose
即使没有我们 地球也会继续转 and, uh, like, life continues on without us.
但为什么我们生下来 终点就是死亡呢 Mm-hmm.
But why would we be made to just die?
可能... - Mm-hmm. - There's probably that...
可能没有原因 There's probably not a reason
但这背后可能也有原因 but there might be a reason behind it.
总能解释的 我不知道 我不清楚 Somehow, I don't know, I'm not sure.
孩子们倾向于天马行空 Kids tend to think freely.
成年人思考的时候 就会在一个狭小的空间内思考 Adults when they think, they think in a tight space.
-你明白我的意思吧 -我想 - You get what I'm saying... - I think...
很难回答 我大概想要 it's hard. I think it's probably a cross
读心术和飞行结合的能力 between mind reading and flying.
读心术是因为 如果一个人很悲伤 Mind reading because if someone's sad,
他们通常不会告诉你发生了什么 they usually won't tell you what's going on.
我有点... And I'm a little bit of a...
那种人有点... that kind of person that is a little...
显然 有科学研究 Apparently, scientific studies,
我并不是说这是完全正确的 I'm not saying this is completely true or whatever,
我就是听到过有这种说法 it's just what I've heard,
就是 人的大脑 but, uh, your brain
必须去除一些旧的东西 has to knock out some old memories
才能保存新的记忆 to be able to save new ones.
所以我认为美国有两种人 So I feel like there's two types of Americans, like,
一种人可以不断地得到他们想要的东西 people who can constantly get what they want
另一种人 and have what they need,
需要努力奋斗 and then there's the other type
where they kind of have to struggle
和努力工作来得到他们想要的东西 and work harder for the things that they need.
不是我们的外表 It's not the way we look,
而是我们的内心 but it's, like, how we are on the inside that's...
就像你不能"以貌取书"一样 Just like you can't judge a book by its cover,
人也是如此 不能以貌取人 it's the same with humans.
所以我喜欢看到事物积极的一面 So I like to look at the positive side of things.
我喜欢思考那些 Um, I like to think about,
可能真的有助于拯救世界的新发明 um, like new inventions that might actually help save the world.
我想去太空 发现一颗新的行星 I think about going into space and discovering a new planet
然后在那里建立生命 and then maybe like building a life there.
关于你的父母 What do you hope that you really remember
你希望自己能一直记得的是什么 about your mom and your dad?
他们会一直支持我 That they were always there for me,
他们会一直爱我 他们说... that they always love me. They say...
我每天晚上 I tell her
都跟她说晚安 然后... "good night" every night and...
我总是会突然跟她说 我爱她 I always tell her that I love her,
她也会经常这么做 just like out of the blue and she would do the same.
我真的感觉 And I really feel
我和她之间的强烈感情 that strong connection with her.
如果你能拥有任何超能力 If you could have any superpower,
你想拥有什么能力 what would it be?
能扭曲时空的能力 The ability to bend space and time.
如果你认为自己是个好人 If you were what you believe is a good person
你去问你信任的人 and you ask whoever you believe in,
我能转世吗 "Hey, can I be reincarnated
变成老虎之类的 "into, I don't know, like a tiger?"
如果你是个好人 他们就会说 And you were a good person then they would be like,
可以的 你可以哦投胎变成老虎的 去吧 "Yeah, you can be a tiger, go ahead."
我觉得如果我们死了 Well, I feel like if we die,
我们什么都感觉不到 like, we don't really feel anything,
所有的记忆都会消失 all like memories are gone and stuff.
然后我们等着 And we're just like, we'll just see you wait
等着重新变成婴儿 becoming a baby.
就这样 And, yeah,
再出生 然后重新开始一段人生 getting born and then just restarting life.
我也不确定 因为我从来没死过 Like, I'm not sure 'cause I've never been dead before.
坐下来 Sit down
闭上眼睛 and close your eyes,
试着去发现自己 and try to find yourself.
因为我觉得必须这样做 Because I feel like that's what you really have to do,
这样才能知道自己想要什么 to know what you want.
找到一种很舒服的方式 去了解探索自己 Like, find a way that you feel comfortable finding yourself.
懂吗 一定得了解自己 You know, you gotta find to find.