Hello my name is Danny Filippo 大家好，我是丹尼·菲利波
I am the co-director and co-writer of Bring Her Back 我是电影《Bring Her Back》的联合导演兼编剧
And I'm Michael and I did... What did I do? Nothing 我是迈克尔，我负责...等等我负责啥来着？啥都没做
I mean co-directed. You totally tagged along really 应该说联合导演。你根本就是来打酱油的吧
I'm also a... Okay I tagged along 我也算...算了算了，我就是来凑数的
This is our logo Michael I didn't mean Nothing 这是我们的logo迈克尔 我不认为你什么都没做
I'm sorry if that upset you No it's fine 让你不开心了很抱歉 没事的
No look I do apologise Let's just focus on the movie 别 我郑重道歉 咱们还是专心看电影吧
That was just our logo for our little production company 那只是我们小型制片公司的logo
This is not a cult 这可不是什么邪典电影
Michael's son was on the floor 迈克尔的儿子倒在地板上
I think we should start again 我觉得我们得重来一遍
Why's that? I don't know 为啥这么说？我也说不清
No, we're gonna keep it nice and real 不，我们要保持真实自然
Okay, I won't. Sorry guys, this won't be a very professional commentary track 好的，我注意。对不住了各位，这个评论音轨可能不太专业
No this is the first time we've mixed in Dolby Atmos 没错，这可是我们首次尝试杜比全景声混音技术
Which was awesome so we were able to have sound in the top speakers 效果超赞，我们终于实现了顶部声场的立体环绕
And we could put rain in the top speakers 甚至能让雨滴声从头顶上方倾泻而下
So it sounds like it's raining on you 让人仿佛置身于滂沱大雨之中
But which only really works I think in the cinemas 不过这种震撼效果，恐怕只有电影院才能百分百还原
But on Blu-ray and everything how people are experiencing it now 不过现在人们通过蓝光等方式观看时的体验
I don't think it makes a difference does it I don't know 我觉得这应该没什么区别吧？我也说不准
Doesn't the Apple headphones have the spatial thing Dolby Atmos 苹果耳机不是支持空间音频和杜比全景声吗
I'm not sure I don't have Apple headphones 这我不太确定 毕竟我不用苹果耳机
Well you should get some 那你真该入手一副试试啊
So this we opened with that setback 因此我们选择用这个挫折作为影片开篇
The circular motif is all the way through the film 环状意象始终贯穿全片
And even the way that sound of the paint leaking across the room 包括颜料在房间内流动的声音设计
was in a circular motion 同样采用了环形的运动轨迹
So it was fun to be able to play with that sort of stuff 能在这些视觉元素上做文章确实充满乐趣
We learned so much in Talk To Me About That 通过《Talk To Me About That》这个项目，我们收获颇丰
Like surround sound and things like that 比如环绕声技术等专业领域
We were so excited to implement that more 我们迫不及待想要将这些技术付诸实践
This is so insane because this was initially a very long one shot 说来你可能不信，这里原本设计了一个超长镜头
This initially went for about three to four minutes 原本这个镜头足足有三四分钟那么长
Of coming around this room and showing a bit of this ritual 在这个场景里转悠并展现部分仪式细节
But it felt like it overshadowed the first half of the film 但这部分似乎抢了电影前半段的风头
Because it was so big 因为这部分场面实在太宏大了
And then the first half of the film is a lot of drama 而电影前半段主要是文戏部分
And it felt like it sort of, I don't know 整体感觉就像是...我也说不太清楚
Like having that it's so strong at the beginning 开篇就如此震撼有力
Once this kind of opening came in it just felt like you didn't care or something 一旦出现这种开场白，你就会感觉好像你不在乎什么的
Because the first part was so explosive 由于开场太过炸裂
So we trimmed it back 所以我们做了删减调整
It's something that you do when you're learning control of the editing 这种调整正是剪辑学习过程中的必经之路
When you're really trying to get a vibe check 当你想要准确把握整体氛围时
You watch the film over and over 你会反复观看这部电影
And try to see and try to modulate it 仔细品味并不断调整
And see what scenes are working how things are carrying across 分析哪些场景最出彩 观察情节如何自然过渡
Yeah it's an awesome process 没错 这个过程简直太棒了
Sora Wong, her first acting role ever Sora Wong，这是她的影视首秀
We knew we wanted to authentically portray someone 我们想要真实呈现
that was vision impaired 一位视障人士的形象
And so we did a big casting call and found Sora who was incredible 于是我们进行了大规模选角，最终发现了惊艳的Sora
Like you can't tell it's her first time acting 完全看不出这是她的表演处女作
We're so proud of her 我们真为她骄傲
Yeah, never acted before. She was afraid that she wouldn't be able to pull it off 没错，她之前毫无表演经验。还担心自己搞不定
But we knew just from her audition 但我们看她试镜时就心里有数了
where we did like a we did like an improv exercise 当时我们做了个即兴表演测试
And we did a scene and said, 'Hey, can you act like this?' 先演了段示范戏，然后问她'能照这样演吗？'
Like this is your character 这仿佛就是你的化身
This is what you're feeling. This is the scenario 此刻你正体验着这种情绪，身处这个情境之中
And she just improvised and it was incredible 她完全临场发挥，简直惊艳四座
Oh my God, a bit of light to dark there 哇塞，这个情绪转折简直从天堂到地狱
It's a recurring thematic thing in the film 这其实是贯穿全片的主题暗线
But Piper's hearing these jabs 派珀听着这些阴阳怪气的挖苦
Or hearing this bullying going on 或是听到这些PUA正在进行
And she realizes that she sort of brought into darkness in that moment 这时她才惊觉自己已然坠入无尽黑暗
And then Andy pulls her out of it 就在这危急时刻安迪及时拉了她一把
And starts to tell her these sort of lies 用善意的谎言温柔安抚她的情绪
And that's part of his character 这正是他性格中的特质
Is that he's portraying the world a certain way 他总是用特定的视角看待世界
And not letting her see the dark side and light side of life. She's only the light 不愿让她见识人生的阴暗与光明。她眼中只有美好
But he has to learn to let her experience the world for herself 但他终究要学着放手，让她独自探索这个世界
So she can mature and grow up and be independent 这样她才能真正成长，变得成熟独立
I love the dynamic 我喜欢他们之间的化学反应
Billy was the same age Sora was when he was in his first film 比利现在的年龄，正好和索拉当年拍处女作时一般大
He was in this awesome film called Responsible Child 他曾经主演过一部惊艳之作《责任儿童》
He was 12 years old when he first did it 初登银幕时他才年仅12岁
And he was able to big brother Sora 却已经能像兄长般关照索拉
And mentor her and help prepare her for the bigger roles 担任她的导师，帮助她为更重要的角色做好准备
And that was Billy's band actually playing in the car 实际上当时车里播放的正是Billy乐队的现场演奏
Yeah, that's Billy's band The Hunger 没错，那就是Billy的乐队The Hunger
You should listen to The Hunger 你一定要听听The Hunger乐队
Yeah, The Hunger is Billy Barrett's band 没错，The Hunger正是Billy Barrett组建的乐队
And we were like we'll put your song in the credits 我们原本打算把你的歌放在片尾字幕中
But the ending's so grim 但影片的结局太过压抑
And his music was like a different vibe 但他的音乐风格又完全是另一种调调
So it would have been interesting it just didn't feel like it was working 虽然这样组合会很有意思，但总觉得不太搭
It was kind of fit 勉强还算合适
So we're trying to think of where we could put it 所以我们一直在琢磨该把这个东西摆哪儿合适
And then there was a perfect way. This is amazing 结果突然灵光一现找到了绝妙方案，简直绝了
Funny. Oh my God 太逗了，我的天哪
Could I just say a story about that room there 我跟你们说件关于那个房间的趣事儿
The room felt like we wanted some more stuff in there for the dad's room 我们总觉得老爸这房间还缺点儿什么
Like leading into the fact that it's not overly obvious but he has cancer 这个设定其实很巧妙，虽然没有明说，但暗示了他患有癌症
And he's been through chemo 而且他之前还接受过化疗
And our dad recently was as well 巧合的是，我们父亲最近也经历了同样的事
And he has this machine in his room 而且他房间里还装着一台特殊的机器
That says whether he's alive or not 那台机器能显示他的生命体征
And it sends signals to the doctor 它能向医生传输警示信号
So if something goes wrong they know about it 这样设备出现异常时医生就能及时知晓
And we were in a desperate rush at the end 最后我们绝望地争分夺秒
To dress that bedroom a little bit 想简单收拾下那个房间
And I ran to Dad's house and I stole the machine 我冲到老爸家偷走了那台医疗设备
And I didn't realize that 我当时完全没有意识到
It's a terrible story. I took the machine and it alerted people 这事说来尴尬。我拿了那台机器，结果触发了警报
And they thought that dad was dead 大家还以为老爸去世了
Yeah, well, he wasn't 结果闹了个大乌龙，他活得好好的
And we returned it straight after 我们当场就把东西物归原主了
We did and I felt really bad 我们确实那样做了，这让我心里很不是滋味
It's because I don't do that 因为那根本不是我的作风
Let's skip that story. Let's skip that story 这段往事就别提了。真的，跳过这段吧
Can the editor remove that story 能不能让剪辑师把这段剪掉啊
And the crazy part is it got removed in the edits 最绝的是这段真的在后期被剪掉了
You don't even see the machine in the room 你压根没注意到房间里那台机器
You don't see it 你压根没发现它
It was one of those things like I didn't realize that it would 这事儿说来也怪 我压根没想到会这样
Dad's like yeah can you return that machine 老爸直接来句：那台机器你能退掉吗
He's like are you have you got my machine 他还追着问：我那台机器在你那儿吗
I'm like yeah we do actually yeah 我当时的反应就是：没错我们确实这么干了
That's a terrible story 这故事讲得真够烂的
So this is Billy after the dad died 这一幕展现的是父亲去世后的比利
Billy's incredible here to convey this motion and push it through 比利这段表演绝了 把情感传递得淋漓尽致
We actually scheduled the film 我们可是专门为这部片子排了期
So the lighter scenes were available to begin with 最初拍摄的都是些轻松愉快的场景
Especially for Sora to build her up 主要是为了让Sora能够循序渐进地进入角色
To the heavier scenes, the more emotional scenes 然后才过渡到那些情感更沉重、更有冲击力的戏份
Finally, the dad was the first scene we shot 有趣的是，父亲的戏份反而是我们最先拍摄的
It was one of the last things we shot 那段戏却是在最后阶段才拍的
Because it was such a heavy scene emotionally 这场戏在情感上特别沉重
And it was sort of about building her up to those scenes 整个过程都是为了让演员慢慢进入状态
So she can get comfortable acting comfortable with her character 让她能够自然而然地融入角色
So that was shot right towards the end of the schedule 因此我们把这场戏安排在了拍摄日程的最后阶段
Hey we Sally Ann Sally Ann 嘿，莎莉·安，莎莉·安
She's so incredible and so fun 她简直太棒了，和她在一起特别开心
Can you tell us she likes frogs from her room 你能从她房间就知道她超爱青蛙吗
Danny VFX in other frogs 丹尼还做了其他青蛙的视觉特效
He's like there's not enough frogs in the hands of her 他总嫌她手里的青蛙不够多
Because all of the scenes are tough 因为每个镜头都拍得很辛苦
And he wanted more frogs so he VFX 他还想要更多青蛙，所以就用上了特效镜头
We did a whole pick up day of VFXing frogs 我们专门搞了整整一天的特效青蛙补拍
Into the background I just wanted one more frog in her office 我就是想在她办公室里再多塞一只青蛙
Yeah that's a bit. Can you spot the frog 没错这是个隐藏彩蛋。大家来找蛙！
Can you spot the frog actually I don't think I can 你们找到那只青蛙了吗？老实说我自个儿都找不着
No, it's in the other shot. Oh, what 不对，是在另一个镜头上。咦等等
There we are. Here, this is 找到了，就在这儿。你看这个
This is one of those things we have to shoot everything in one little big section in this thing 这属于那种必须要在这个狭小空间里完成所有拍摄的场景
So it was like six pages to try and get in one day 相当于要在一天内赶完六页剧本的戏份
So I remember all the DCP stuff was 我记得当时所有的数字电影包(DCP)素材
That was a heavy day of shooting. 那天的拍摄强度特别大
And our shoot 我们的拍摄周期
Talk to Me was a five week shoot 《Talk to Me》只用了五周就完成了拍摄
And then Bring Her Back was an eight week shoot 而《Bring Her Back》的拍摄周期则长达八周
So we were cheering 当时我们都很兴奋
Or the production was like oh we're gonna have so much time 制片组还说这次时间充裕得很
To properly go through this stuff 可以好好打磨这些内容
But somehow we were still brutally behind all the time 可不知怎么搞的我们还是落后于进度
Yeah it's insane because like when you 确实很离谱，因为当你
Like this shot for example 就拿这个镜头来说
They had 30 seconds to get this shot 他们当时只有短短30秒来抓拍这个画面
I'm like if you guys look at your stuff 我当时就说：大家快检查下设备
Peel it up that carpet 赶紧把地毯掀起来
Quick quick quick quick quick quick 快快快！动作快！
And we were like just set up the camera quickly and shot it 我们当时匆忙架好摄像机就开拍
We had to get it at the last second 我们完全是卡在最后一刻才搞定
It's just one of those things when you've got a lot of prosthetics 当你浑身贴满特效假体时就会遇到这种状况
And a lot of makeup effects and everything 再加上各种复杂的化妆特效
And then when you're dealing with rain as well 更别说还要应付下雨天的状况
And kid actors and animals like everything 还有儿童演员和动物这些特殊元素
The time just you lose time so quickly 时间流逝得特别快
Yeah we couldn't have the same energy that we did of "talk to me" like it had to be way more considered 是啊 我们没法保持当初拍《Talk To Me》那股劲儿了， 这次必须格外谨慎
Yeah yeah but some days we were I think 对对付 不过有时候我觉得我们还行
That's how we got to get on top of Danny 我们得想办法搞定丹尼
It's like sometimes the first half of the day goes a bit slow 有时候上午就是过得特别慢
Don't you reckon? Okay, we're not here to do 你不这么觉得吗？行吧，咱们不是来干这个的
Alright, let's just have a look at this 得嘞，咱们先看看这个
This was just sort of to convey the closeness between them 这段就是为了表现他们俩那种亲密感
And you know even this shot here in conveying that 你看，这个镜头其实也在暗喻这个关系
Like Andy's in that dark and he's got this dark side about him 安迪就像个身处黑暗的人，性格里带着阴郁的一面
And so he's but again pulling Piper into the light 但他又一次将派珀拉出黑暗
I love their relationship and the way that they were together 我超爱他们之间的这种羁绊和相处模式
They were so awesome. You really felt the bond 他们的化学反应绝了，那种默契感简直扑面而来
You really felt the bond 你能真切感受到他们之间的羁绊
And Sora really trusted Billy and Billy really trusted Sora 索拉和比利之间建立了深厚的互信关系
We did bonding exercises with them before the shoot 正式开拍前我们专门安排了默契训练
We took them to a football game 我们还特意带他们去看了场橄榄球赛
Bloody Aussie rules football AFL AFL 就是那见鬼的澳式橄榄球联赛AFL
Billy went as Sora's brother 比利以索拉哥哥的身份出场
And was helping her 全程协助她
Guiding her through it 为她指引方向
Talking her through the match when he needed to 适时指点她比赛策略
There she is in the light 看她在聚光灯下
Oh my gosh. Sora's awesome. 我的天！Sora简直绝了！
Such a beautiful writing artist. 真是个才华横溢的写作艺术家
Such a great writer. 堪称一代文豪
Danny. Jeez Michael. That's the only compliment you've ever given me. 丹尼，好家伙迈克尔。这可是你破天荒头一回夸我
No. And it was sarcastic. I was talking about Michael Me. 才怪！那明明是反话。我夸的是迈克尔我自己好吗
Well you didn't write anything 好吧你压根儿没留下任何文字记录
So I don't know what you're talking about. Okay 所以我完全摸不着头脑。行吧
This was shot on two different days here 这段镜头是分两天拍摄的
I really wanted to get in close with Sora 我特别想给Sora来个特写
Just to really convey this thing where she's feeling it 就是想精准捕捉她当下的情绪
And it's just a moment of calm melody before we enter 这是正片开始前最后的宁静时刻
It's probably the only scene of calm I know 这大概是全片唯一称得上安宁的片段
And there was a whole lot of other stuff that we shot 其实我们还拍了不少其他素材
That was like building up Andy's character and his backstory 那些内容主要是铺垫安迪的人物设定和前世今生
And there was a whole lot of character in the film 整部电影其实充满了人物塑造
But it just wasn't adding anything 但这部分内容实在没什么亮点
And the pacing felt a bit off 而且节奏把控也有点问题
So again it's one of those things that you find in editing 这就是剪辑过程中常见的取舍问题
That is painful sometimes to cut stuff that you really love 有时候不得不忍痛割爱
Because there were really short things I'd say there's more 因为即便是一些很短的镜头，我也会觉得还有更多发挥空间
Like the initial cut of this was two hours 初剪版长达两小时
It was over two hours, wasn't it 我记得超过两小时了吧
It was over two hours 确实超过两小时
Yeah, 2:10 or something like that 对，大概2小时10分钟的样子
Yeah. That was pretty crazy 没错，简直丧心病狂
And here we are 我们终于来到了这里
They're entering Laura's world into the circle 他们正将罗拉的世界，进入了大的白色的圈
Here we are 就是这里
This is the first scene that we shot with everyone all together 这是全剧组人员首次集体出镜的拍摄场景
This was like this was 当时的感觉就像是...
We did one day for this scene 这个场景我们整整拍了一天
Like the whole day was this scene 整个一天都在打磨这个场景
Them in the house meeting Laura 他们在屋内初次见到罗拉的戏份
Because it's so hard when you 因为这场戏确实很难拍
This is the first time that you're going to establish the characters 这是角色首次登场的重头戏
And this is going to carry on throughout the film 这种手法会贯穿全片
So this is like all these extreme close ups of Piper and touching 所以这里都是Piper的特写镜头和肢体接触
Just to try and convey Piper's point of view 旨在呈现Piper的主观视角
The other senses 其他感官体验
What's Piper's visual language Piper的视觉语言是什么
Feeling hearing Sally Hawkins. We love Sally to death. She's so incredible. 能听到莎莉·霍金斯的声音真是太棒了。我们简直爱死她了，她真是演技炸裂
And it was so amazing just working with the costume designer. 与服装设计师的合作体验简直绝了
Even to find the language of her costume. 包括要找到最适合她的服装语言
And like she's starting off with these oranges. 比如一开始选用橙色系
And then slowly as the film progresses we go down to browns. 随着剧情推进逐渐过渡到棕色系
And there's a flashback towards the end of the film 影片尾声处有个闪回片段
where she's living back the moment where Kathy had passed away 当时她正经历凯西离世的关键时刻
And you see her in greens 镜头里的她身着一袭绿衣
And that's the way she was before Kathy's passing 这正是凯西离世前她的模样
And then she's rotting all the way through this 而后她的形象在镜头中逐渐腐朽
All these greens downstairs 楼下满眼都是绿色
And then when you go into Laura's room you see all the rotted browns 但一进罗拉的房间就看到满目腐朽的棕黄
And that's when we start to convey that part of her psyche 这时我们开始展现她内心的阴暗面
Looks like Danny's room 跟丹尼的房间如出一辙
Oh my gosh, rotting brown 天呐，全是腐朽的棕褐色
It is a rotting brown. Oh, look at this. 这是种腐朽的棕色调。快看这个细节
This is like a real taxidermy dog that we had on set. 这就是我们在片场用的真·动物标本狗
The owner was nice enough to share it with us. 狗主人特别慷慨，愿意把它借给我们剧组使用
And it was surprisingly calm to touch. 摸起来的手感意外地令人安心
And you did feel a sense of affection. 你甚至会不由自主地对它产生怜爱之情
I did stay at the house one night 我确实在那房子里过了一夜
And they put it in the bedroom 他们还把那东西放在卧室
And every time I looked at it was like staring at me 每次我看它时都感觉它在瞪着我
I had to put it outside 我实在受不了，只能把它搬到外面
Leave the dog alone. Don't touch it. It wasn't yours 离那狗远点！别碰它，那不是你的东西
I love Andy's braces as well 安迪的牙套造型设计也很棒
Which was obviously going to become the way that Piper recognises 这明显是之后派珀认出他的关键线索
And figures out that it's Andy on the floor later on in the film 让她在影片后半段意识到地上躺着的人正是安迪
But that was a whole process like finding the right color scheme for that as well 但光是确定这个视觉线索的配色方案就折腾了很久
Fuck off you fat fucking fuckers 都他妈给老子滚 一群死肥猪
That was one of the lines 这是其中一句关键对白
We had Sally try different variations of that line 我们让莎莉试了多种不同表达方式
Something to show that she's, I don't know 想展现她的那种...怎么说呢
It's a little bit inappropriate with the kids to be saying, you know 在孩子面前说这种话确实不太得体
Yeah, she's a little bit off 对，她这人就是有点怪怪的
She's a little bit brash 她性格有点大大咧咧
But you know what I love about Laura's character 但你知道罗拉这个角色最打动我的是什么吗
The way that Sally was able to bring her to life 莎莉演绎这个角色的精彩之处
Is the way that she's able to toe the line 在于她能恰到好处地把握分寸
Or like have that sense of maternal 同时又不失母性的温柔
Like a motherly instinct I feel very maternal 这就像一种母性本能 让我充满母亲般的关怀
But then also she's a little bit psychotic 但她同时又带着几分疯癫
we may or may not know 我们也不确定
Hello oh it's so Sally was so incredible 天啊 莎莉的表现简直令人惊叹
And building the character with her in such a deep way 还能和她一起如此深入地打磨角色塑造
Like she lived and breathed the character 她简直是把这个角色演活了
And every day after we shoot 每天收工后
We'd do things 我们都会安排些活动
And we'd get together with the crew, our head crew 我们总会召集主创团队开个小会
Just to evaluate the day. That was real, yeah 复盘当天拍摄情况。这才是真正的创作，没错
Sorry I hate that for real 抱歉，我真的很讨厌开会
Thorns and roses 刺与花
It was like what were the two roses of the day these amazing things 就像问'今天的两朵玫瑰是什么'，指的是这些美好的事情
And what were the two thorns 以及'两根刺'指的是什么
What was something that we could improve on 有哪些地方我们可以做得更好
So just so there's a constant communication with the crew 这样团队内部就能保持随时畅通的交流
And a constant communication with the actors 同时也要跟演员们保持密切沟通
Just so we can make sure everyone's comfortable 确保每个人都能处在最佳状态
The chickens 比如那些鸡群
Chickens and cats. So many more animals. Animals and children. 鸡群和猫咪，还有更多动物演员，当然也包括小演员们
The two things you're not supposed to shoot with 这是拍摄时最忌讳的两样东西
I know but it always brings the film to life 我知道，但这招总能给影片注入灵魂
Look at all these rotted backgrounds 快看这些斑驳的背景墙
Oh my gosh I love this 天呐这个简直绝了
So this whole house we paved that pool 整栋房子的泳池都是我们铺的
So all of that tiling was not in there 那些瓷砖原本都不是现成的
It was just one sort of green light green color 原本就是个单调的绿色
We went in there and tiled the pool 我们后来进场给泳池铺了瓷砖
Finding the house was such a tricky thing 要找到合适的房子可费了老大劲
Because we wanted to find a place where the pool was at the heart of the house 我们需要找泳池位于房屋核心位置的房子
Where it was at the event 当时事件的现场
Like anywhere, any room that you were in that you could see the pool 无论你在哪个房间，只要能看到泳池
And he's standing in a circle in the pool. There he is 他就站在泳池中央。看，就在那儿
This is where the beginning and the end with Laura, isn't it? Yes, yes 这就是与Laura故事开始和结束的地方吧？没错，就是这里
And we went to shoot the scene twice 这场戏我们拍了两次
Because initially Oli had a different makeup look 最初Oli的妆容设计是另一个方案
And it just looked a bit silly 最终效果看起来有点滑稽
Like he had these big fake teeth and everything 比如他戴着那副夸张的假牙道具
We just lost. We lost his face 结果完全搞砸了。连他本来的面部特点都没了
We lost what was captivating about it to begin with 把最初最吸引人的那个特质完全弄没了
So we had to reshoot that 所以我们只好把那场戏重拍了一遍
Jonah Ren Phillips by the way that's Oliver 顺便介绍一下，这位叫乔纳·伦·菲利普斯，他饰演奥利弗
Yes he is incredible. He is awesome. So awesome. 没错，他简直神了。演技炸裂，真的绝了！
And then we even had because there's so much prosthetics later on in the film 而且后来因为电影需要用到大量特效化妆
We had offered him and his parents. 我们还特意为他和他父母做了特别安排
Where I was like we could get a different actor 我当时就琢磨着可以换一个演员来演
To start doing the prosthetics 从特效化妆阶段开始
Like once his body starts to break down 等到他的身体开始异变时
The demon starts to break out 恶魔真身逐渐显现时
We could have a different actor play it 这时候就能换演员来演绎这个角色了
But he really wanted to do it all himself 可他执意要亲力亲为完成所有工作
So all the makeup and all its effects it's all him 不管是妆容还是特效全是他一手包办
It's so incredible 简直太神了
You're done darling 大功告成啦亲爱的
Yeah This scene was like 没错 这场戏简直就像是
Everything with Sally as I'm just shooting with her 与萨莉的每一场戏都像在共同即兴创作
And giving her the smallest note of direction 我只需稍加点拨
And she can change 她立刻就能心领神会
Each take is a little bit different 每条表演都独具特色
But in the right vein 却又始终保持着精准的表演状态
It's so amazing to watch 这一幕真是精彩绝伦
I always love that part when she puts her head 我最爱看她那个摆放头部的表演
Even Sally, imagine a two-time Academy Award-nominated actor 要知道莎莉可是两度获得奥斯卡提名的实力派演员
And then sometimes we do the joke takes. 有时我们还会特意拍些搞笑的花絮镜头
Where we say her come in singing or come in, and she'll do it 比如让她即兴唱着歌入场，她都能完美演绎
Well, Michael did. I always did. 其实迈克尔经常这样，我也是
Usually when we're behind schedule too. 特别是进度赶不上的时候，我们反而更来劲
But it's worth it. We've got to do outtakes because it's so funny. There's so many. 不过绝对值回票价！这些NG镜头精彩到根本停不下来
There's a history behind the wall there as well. 那面墙可是大有来头
I'm not going to get into it. 具体故事我就不剧透啦
Because I don't want to break down everything 因为我不想要彻底剖析每个细节
Or like have things left up to a bit of interpretation 又或者保留些让观众自行解读的余地
But there's a history behind everything 但每个细节背后都暗藏故事
Including the wall that she's measuring them on 连她用来测量身高的那面墙也不例外
Which is a little bit rubbed out 墙面已经有些斑驳褪色
It's looking a little fresh 看起来有点不对劲
A little bit like the glasses she's wearing 跟她戴的眼镜如出一辙
I don't know Andy's slowly starting to sense something's maybe a little bit off about the house 安迪似乎逐渐察觉到这栋房子有些古怪
Like what's this here? What's this? What's going on here? 这是什么情况？这又是什么？到底怎么回事？
What's this painted line here? 这条油漆线是干什么用的？
Do you know what's really tricky and difficult is that this house 要知道最棘手的地方就是这栋房子
This here is a set 眼前这些都是搭建的
All upstairs is a set 整个二楼都是搭出来的
All downstairs is real 楼下所有场景都是实景拍摄
So like we're on location 也就是说我们是在实地取景
And then half the house is location, half the house is a set 这栋房子半实景半搭景
It would have been easier if this was the location 要是全用实景会省事多了
Because we would have been able to light it easier 毕竟实景打光方便得多
When you're shooting in these big open windows 在这些落地窗前取景时
You can see the pool and the outside 泳池和外景尽收眼底
But the light dictates so much of when you can shoot 但拍摄时机很大程度上取决于光线条件
And things like that because it's natural light 毕竟我们用的是自然光
I love shooting on location so much 我真是太爱实景拍摄了
I'd rather be on location than on the set. Always. Yeah it is 相比搭景，我永远更爱待在实景。千真万确
But it's also you're at the mercy of the elements 不过在实景就得看实景本身的元素了
Yeah but it always looks so much more incredible 但实景出片效果就是不一样，简直绝了
But they did production design. What are you saying 可人家做了场景设计啊，你这话几个意思
This has been such a good notion 这创意简直绝绝子
And then even that shot of 连那个镜头都是精心设计的
She's pulling Piper away from Andy in that moment 她那一瞬把Piper从Andy身边拽走
So that one shot when they're walking down the hallway 所以走廊里并肩而行的那个镜头
Just to get a sense she started to take Piper as her own 就能看出她已经开始把Piper据为己有
And sort of leave Andy out 而Andy则被晾在一边
She's subtly jabbing at him all the way through this 她整场戏都在暗戳戳地怼他
Or even with those beads it's so she can always hear who's coming and going 就连那些串珠设计也是为了方便她时刻掌握人员走动情况
Well yeah she's and there's all these texture things around Cathy's room 没错 凯茜房间里布满了这些富有触感的细节设计
That's a thing that we found with a lot of the non-sighted people 这是我们在采访众多视障人士时发现的共同特点
That were interviewing and vision-impaired 那些接受采访的视障群体
Like they love textures and having things that they could really feel and 他们特别喜欢各种质感和能亲手触摸的物件
Yeah it helps them locate places and know where they are 没错，这能帮他们辨认方位，知道自己在哪儿
There's one of the beads one of the strips that we took out the bells and the beads 其中一条装饰带，我们取掉了上面的铃铛和珠子
So Laura would be able to slip in and out without being heard 这样罗拉就能神不知鬼不觉地进出
Yeah she's awesome 没错，她简直棒呆了
That's cool 真不错啊
So I'm just always captivated by both their performances 我完全被两位演员的表演圈粉了
I love this scene as well 这场戏我也超爱的
Am I being defensive 我是否处于防御状态
Oh come on look at you 哎呀别这样，你自己看看
She's like yeah she's like put him into this thing 她就这么直接说，把他塞进这个装置里
She's trying to make him feel a little bit unwelcome 她故意摆出一副不待见他的架势
It's like Laura all the way through this is breaking Andy down 罗拉这一路上都在给安迪下马威
And trying to make him that if he's going to try and dob you know like Laura in 还暗示说要是他敢去打罗拉的小报告
Or say like she's done something to my sister 或者告发她对我妹妹动了什么手脚
There's something wrong like that he's just gonna be completely unreliable 事情有点蹊跷 这人很快就会变得完全不靠谱
And anything he says doesn't hold any weight or any merit 他说的话根本站不住脚 完全不可信
It's one of those things that she's trying to exploit 这正是她想钻的漏洞之一
And find out any kind of weakness from him 想方设法找出他的破绽
And the anger thing is one that she picks up on 他的暴脾气正好被她抓住了把柄
She knows that about the incident when he was a kid with Piper 她对他童年时期与Piper发生的那件事了如指掌
And she's using this any way she can to get under his skin and exploit that 她千方百计地利用这个把柄来戳他痛处
So Oliver is a fucking weirdo is he 所以奥利弗整个人就是个十足的变态对吧
What I also love about Laura and we start to see it all the way through Laura另一个让我欣赏的特点是，我们在整部电影中都能看到
Like a bit further into the film she's struggling with what she has to do 随着剧情深入，我们会看到她对自己必须做的事充满挣扎
It's not something that she's finding easy to do 对她来说这并不轻松
It's tricky. She's really struggling with it which I love 确实不容易。看她这么费劲的样子让我很满意
Look even just in the backdrop there with those trees and stuff 看看背景里那些树木之类的
There was a big printed out paint 当时用了一张巨幅印刷画
You guys should see how big the printed forest was behind 你们真该看看后面那个印刷森林有多壮观
Yeah, but it looks so real. I love how the production team 确实，这效果简直以假乱真。真心佩服剧组
were able to pull it off, execute it 竟然真的把这个场景完美呈现出来了
Poor Billy had to do like 300 set reps of this 可怜的比利这个镜头居然拍了300多条
Yeah, we wanted it to feel real. Come on, do it again Billy 没错，我们要的就是真实感。比利，再来一条！
Yeah, keep going until you can't go anymore 对，一直拍到力竭
We love these textured things I did. I did such a good job here 我们超爱这些我精心打造的有质感细节。这处设计堪称完美
This is like this is the dollhouse right 这不就是个真人版娃娃屋嘛
Well yeah it's sort of like this isn't Piper's world 对呀，某种程度上这里不是派珀的主场
As she's sort of being placed into this thing 她就像是被强行塞进这个空间
As if a doll being placed into a dollhouse 活像个被摆进娃娃屋的人偶
It's a sort of feeling that we're going for 这正是我们想要营造的氛围
I love this 太棒了
And this is like Laura's entered a bit of a fantasy world here 此刻罗拉仿佛踏入了梦幻之境
So there is a magical quality to the sound design here 此处的音效设计充满魔力
And to the room, and then again 整个空间都笼罩在这种奇幻氛围中
Like leaning into that light and dark and stuff 这种刻意营造的光明与黑暗对比
Like we're showing this through Laura's perspective 我们通过罗拉的主观视角来呈现这个场景
And then as night falls into this house, there's an eeriness 当夜幕降临这所房子时，有一种怪异的感觉
We had two cameras this shoot 这次拍摄我们采用了双机位配置
And it was always a competition with them 两台摄像机全程都在相互较劲
Who can get the better shot 谁能捕捉到更精彩的画面
Sometimes there's a camera for some of the exteriors and stuff 有时，就会有有摄像机拍摄一些外景和东西
When the elements are coming together 当所有条件都具备时
And when rainfall is going to happen 每逢天将降雨时
Or when there's a storm coming 或是暴风雨来临前
It's just to be able to have that camera 关键是要让摄像机随时待命
To be able to capture those shots 才能抓拍到关键画面
If someone else is inside shooting 即便其他人在室内作业
What is she actually here? What is this mysterious 她究竟为何在此？这神秘的存在
We really, what's an inversion for the home videotapes 说真的，这对于家庭录像带来说是一个多大的颠覆啊！
And that we want that to feel 这正是我们想要营造的氛围
A bit of an inversion 些许反转效果
From the happy home videos that she's got of the law of a daughter 这与她那些记录女儿成长的快乐家庭录像形成反差
Which is a healthy way of grieving and processing everything 这原本是种健康的哀悼与释怀方式
And then there's this twisted inversion 然而事情却出现了诡异的反转
And there's a little website that's down there on the bottom right 在画面右下方还藏着个小网站
Somewhere she may or may not have purchased this tape from 那个网站很可能就是她购买这盘磁带的来源
And again this the mythology is about 再说这个神话故事
We've written out this big Bible like this 我们就这样写出了这部宏大的圣经
We didn't talk to you about it 我们没跟你细说过这事
I love only hinting at it 我就爱点到为止
And getting a feeling of it 慢慢体会其中韵味
I think it's clear would you say 很明显你该这么说吧
No no I don't know 不不 我不清楚
There we are there's a she's sort of taken down any image of Kathy 看到了吗 她已经把所有凯西的照片都拿掉了
And like she's like I have to stop picturing her 她好像在说 我必须停止幻想她的样子
as she was knowing that she's about to go into a different body 因为她知道凯西马上就要换到另一具身体里了
She's going to be embodying someone else 她将化身成为另一个角色
She's going to look different 她的外貌将会完全改变
But her soul and her presence and her personality 但她的灵魂、气质和个性特征
Is going to be herself 仍会保持本色
But she has to try and detach 但罗拉她需要学会抽离自我
And not remember how Kathy used to look or feel 甚至会遗忘凯西往昔的音容笑貌
We love being on location 我们超爱实地取景的拍摄时光
All these things on location 实地拍摄时的种种趣事
So this is on location 这可是实打实的现场取景
Pull focus there 给那个位置做焦点转换
McCluskey's our DOP 麦克拉斯基担任本片的摄影指导
Aaron McCluskey is incredible 亚伦·麦克拉斯基的摄影技术简直绝了
So this next scene 接下来要说的这个场景
So we wanted to get 我们当时想呈现的是
Dawn scene of painting the line in the pool 黎明时分在泳池绘制白线的场景
And her waiting for the storm 她静静守候着那场暴风雨
And we did it one morning it was so cool 有天清晨我们真的拍成了 那感觉简直绝了
Because we said to Sally could we do 当时我们试探着问萨莉
You want to come in on the weekend 周末能过来加班吗
And we'll get together at 5 am 咱们凌晨五点碰头
And just me, you, Dani, and McCluskey and makeup 现场就我们几个：我、你、丹妮、麦克拉斯基和化妆师
And then we'll go and shoot this stuff 然后我们就直接开拍这些镜头
And she was down for it 她爽快地答应了
So it was just no crew around 所以现场没有其他工作人员
And we just went there and shot it 我们二话不说就直接开机拍摄了
Yeah, no one's here 对啊，一个人都没有
This is on the weekend, all this morning stuff 现在是周末，大清早的这些景象
And it has this amazing light about it 而且这光线简直绝了
Like that, yeah, that kind of cool 就是这种感觉，对，特别带感
You can't fake the feeling, yeah 这种氛围根本装不出来，真的
You can't fake that light 那种自然流露的光芒是装不出来的
And it was so freeing sometimes 那种无拘无束的感觉真好
Like when you're just there 就像完全沉浸在当下
And there's no crew around 整个片场空无一人
You got to explore and perform 可以随心所欲地表演创作
And just filming Laura in the space 还有在场景中拍摄罗拉的戏份
That was another thing that Sally was 这是莎莉为角色带来的另一个特质
To bring to the character 为角色增添的特质
She helped dress the house 她亲自参与布置场景
She went shopping as Laura 她还以罗拉的身份去采购道具
She filled every cupboard 她把所有橱柜都塞得满满当当
With things that Laura would have 装的都是罗拉生前用过的物品
Filled the cupboard with 那些罗拉最爱收集的小物件
And then again in the rehearsal process 在排练过程中再次重现
Which is finding the character 这正是塑造角色的必经之路
And like having a lived sense of history 就如同经历过历史沧桑
Is like having characters act out different moments 好似让角色重现那些未曾展现的人生片段
That weren't in the film 那些镜头之外的生命痕迹
Like part of their personality, part of their history 既是性格的烙印，也是生命的轨迹
Just to make it feel lived in 只为营造那种岁月沉淀的生命质感
Do you know how you know that that shot there 你发现那个镜头为什么特别了吗
inside the washing machine is so interesting 洗衣机内部的那个画面非常有意思
because it was creating a washing machine 因为当时是用特效打造洗衣机
with special effects that there's no back half of it 而且这台洗衣机后半部分是完全镂空的
And that she could shoot through it 这样就能透过洗衣机进行拍摄
But it also has a water element to it 不过这个场景还融入了水的元素
If you saw what that looks like 要是你亲眼看到那个画面
Those shots when there's close-ups 特别是那些特写镜头
Or under things and that is always so surreal 还有从物体下方拍摄的镜头，效果简直魔幻
To watch how they're done 看他们怎么拍出来的
Because you can't stick a camera 毕竟没法直接塞个摄像机
in a washing machine it just wouldn't work 进洗衣机拍摄 根本不现实
So you got to figure out ways to do it 所以只能另想办法
That was a dummy, a dummy dad 用的是道具假人 假人老爸
Yeah, dummy dad. So all the yeah 没错 假人老爸 就是这样的 对
All that stuff with Piper and that 关于Piper的那些情节
With the trying to bring a dad back 想要让父亲起死回生的桥段
Was all with a dummy head which is amazing 这些镜头居然都是靠假人头完成的 简直神乎其技
And we had two incredible prosthetics teams 而且我们请来了两支超一流的特效化妆团队
On this film 为本片保驾护航
So we had Make-Up Effects and we had Scarecrow 我们当时有Make-Up Effects和Scarecrow两个团队
And they were able to tackle different aspects of production 他们分别负责制作流程中的不同环节
And it was fun to pit them against each other a little bit 让他们小小较量一下还挺有意思的
You pit a lot of people against each other 你经常让不同团队互相较量
Well no no in a fun competitive way 不不不，就是那种欢乐的良性竞争
Where you're like oh did you see what Scarecrow did 就像那种'天啊 你看到稻草人的造型了吗'的反应
That makeup effect was pretty good 那个特效妆真的绝了
What are you guys doing over here 你们几个在这搞什么名堂呢
In a fun way but yeah some of those shots were man 虽然拍得挺有意思 但有些镜头真的绝了
I mean all those prosthetic shots and all that yeah 那些特效化妆的镜头 简直了
I love when there's weight behind the prosthetics 我特别欣赏这些富有质感的人体特效
And the makeup and not let it just be 再加上精细的妆容 绝非粗制滥造
This is the first time Andy is lying to Piper 这可是安迪头一回对派珀撒谎
Oh that's not true at all 得了吧 根本就不是这么回事
Well these lights were 其实这些灯光设计
Well this is one of the big ones on a grapefruit 这可是关于西柚的一个重点梗
Grapefruit is a real phrase that my co-writer uses '西柚'这个梗是我编剧搭档
with his partner when they're trying to say 和他伴侣之间的暗号
I'm being serious right now 表示'我现在是认真的'
Like you have to tell me the truth 相当于'你必须跟我说实话'
They use grapefruit for that because there's always this 他们用葡萄柚来做这事——毕竟葬礼上总少不了这个环节
They joke around quite a lot with me show up 每次我一露面，他们就特别爱拿我开玩笑
Yes but Andy cannot look at the body Now what is 没错，问题是安迪现在不能看遗体
Yes which is this weird thing that actually happens 对，这就是希腊东正教葬礼中真实存在的奇特习俗
with Greek Orthodox funerals is that these open caskets 希腊东正教的葬礼都会使用这种开放式棺木
And then the deceased person is at the front 逝者的灵柩会停放在仪式现场的最前方
Of the funeral at the front 在仪式现场的最前排位置
What is it called? What's it called? 这个环节该怎么称呼？
The church or wherever you're doing it 不论是教堂还是其他举行仪式的场所
And then people come up and they kiss the head of the corpse 亲友们会依次上前，向逝者行吻额礼
I remember when our grandfather died 我还记得爷爷去世时的情景
And he was in his room and his body was on the bed 他躺在房间的床上
And everyone had to go up and kiss him on the head 家人们都要上前亲吻他的额头
Yeah I remember as a kid I was like oh okay 是啊，小时候的我只觉得：哦，好吧
And there's a healthy way of grieving 这才是健康表达哀思的方式
You're not forced to do it 你不是被逼着这么做
So this idea that Laura's grabbing him 所以罗拉抓住他的这个念头
And forcing him, just trying to unravel him a little bit 强迫着他，就是想稍微撬开他的心扉
But also showing she's got a bit of a strange relationship with death 但也表明她与死亡有着一种奇怪的关系
Yeah, she's comfortable with death in a different way 是啊，她对死亡有种别样的坦然
You see that in multiple ways 这点从多方面都能看出来
That's the same with the taxidermy dog 那个标本狗也是如出一辙
Well, she troubles him 她总是给安迪添堵
She has a different relationship 她和死亡有一种异样的关系
She's struggling to let things go 她始终难以释怀
And also backtracking to our grandfather's death 再说回爷爷去世的事
It was like a big part of our childhood 这在我们童年记忆里占据了很重的分量
And I just remember so vividly our grandfather trying to give him CPR 我至今仍历历在目地记得爷爷当时拼命给他做心肺复苏的场景
And I remember the vomit 那些呕吐物的画面至今仍在我脑海中挥之不去
Your grandfather trying to give him CPR, our father trying to give him CPR 你爷爷当年抢救他时的情形，我的父亲试图抢救我们的爷爷
and the vomit that was stuck in his beard 进行心肺复苏时 发现他胡须里还残留着呕吐物
And it's like always those uncomfortable memories from childhood 恰似童年那些挥之不去的阴影
That you try to tap into that stuff 你总忍不住要深挖这些记忆
And try to explore that 不断探究其中缘由
So it was so scary for me to enter his room 当时走进他房间真是让我毛骨悚然
And I ended up having to try and confront that fear 最后我被迫直面那份恐惧
So I ended up moving into his room, Buffalo's room, grandfather in Greek 于是我搬进了他（希腊语'祖父'Buffalo）的房间
So yeah, that's just like tying into Andy's whole thing 是啊，这和Andy的经历如出一辙
About struggling to be able to go into that bathroom 关于他拼命想要走进那个浴室的挣扎
Or the place where his father died 那个夺走他父亲生命的地方
It's just having to end up the whole thing of the mouth to mouth 最终只能以嘴对嘴的方式结束
And that being the kiss of life or the kiss of death 这是生命之吻或者是死亡之吻
Oh yeah it's cool I remember that window 啊对超有意思 那个窗户我记得特别清楚
So it was a plate shot for Oliver to punch through the window 我们专门拍了个背景板镜头用来表现奥利弗破窗的瞬间
And it was a thick window because we couldn't have Oliver punching through it for real 那扇道具窗做了加厚处理 毕竟不可能让演员真的击碎玻璃
But we wanted to bang against it 可我们偏要硬碰硬试试
And then our stunt coordinator had a fake hand 后来特技指导拿来一只道具假手
To punch it through the window 准备用它破窗而入
And he couldn't do it, he couldn't break 结果根本砸不穿，死活破不了
He was hitting it so hard it was bending 狠命捶到假手变形都不放弃
It was like thick glass 那感觉就像一块厚厚的玻璃
Ooh chicken chicken chicken 哇鸡肉鸡肉鸡肉
That's enough of that that's enough of that 适可而止适可而止
I actually spoke to a lot of different occultists 我确实咨询了不少神秘学专家
While researching the film and looking into it and building up our lore 在为影片取材调研、构建世界观时
And for some reason a couple of them kept going on about birthmarks 不知为何，有几个人总在反复讨论胎记的事
Being a stain on the soul 说那是灵魂上的烙印
And it's carried over from these different past traumas 这些印记源自前世的不同创伤
And these different past lives 来自不同的前世轮回
So I remember that being like a reoccurring thing 所以我对这个轮回转世的说法印象特别深刻
Of a couple of the people that I spoke to 就我聊过的那几位而言
I find birthmarks quite beautiful actually. All right 说真的我觉得胎记挺美的。行吧
Michael's got one on his leg 迈克尔腿上就有块胎记
I don't know what you're saying 我没懂你啥意思
Why are you saying you find my leg beautiful 你干嘛说我腿好看啊
I was also tapping in here like Laura's you know she is terrifying in the scene 我和罗拉一样看这段戏时也心惊胆战的，她演得实在太吓人了
Sally when she looks up to Billy 莎莉抬头看比利的那一幕
She's sort of celebrating the dad's death a little bit here 她这反应简直像在暗喜老爸的死
Or obviously but also purple was Kathy's favourite colour 虽然很明显（要穿黑），但她选了紫色因为这是凯茜生前最爱的颜色
So she's wearing she's a complete how she's dressed compared to everyone else 所以她这身打扮——和其他人一对比就更明显了——完全就是（凯茜的风格）
And in this scene she's kind of wrapping around like a python 这场戏里她展现出蟒蛇般的缠绕姿态
Yeah that was also another traumatic moment 没错 那段回忆实在扎心
Because I remember at our grandfather's funeral 我还清楚记得爷爷葬礼那天
There was someone that I really didn't like 现场有个让我特别膈应的人
That was a friend of the family 是家里来往的熟人
And then as we were approaching the funeral stuff 就在我们着手准备葬礼事宜时
She came up to me wrapped her arms around me wouldn't let me go 她走过来紧紧抱住我，说什么都不肯松手
It was like 'Let me help you' 她好像在说'让我来帮你分担'
Come on You can hear that Exactly 你们听 这声音多清楚
Let's put the camera close in on Billy 来 把镜头推近对准比利
I love you 我爱你
He does. He's one of those moments he feels like he can't get out of it 确实如此。此刻的他深陷其中无法自拔
And she's being so comforting in a way 而她却在用一种特殊的方式安慰着他
But also making him do something he just really doesn't want to do 可同时又在逼他做一件他完全不愿做的事
But also, yeah, again in a perverted way too 但说真的，这又是一种变态的方式
Because that's not normal 这也太反常了吧
That's a little weird 感觉有点诡异
The guy that plays Andy's dad is actually Jonah's father in real life 演Andy老爸的那位其实是Jonah的亲生父亲
So the kid that plays Oliver, that's his dad 就是演Oliver的小演员的亲爹
And also because both of his parents are actors 而且他爹妈都是圈内人
So they were able to be there on set 所以他们得以亲临拍摄现场
And they helped build his character with us 还协助我们一起打磨这个角色
And they were helping him be comfortable on set 还帮他适应拍摄现场的环境
And helped find Oliver and the way that he'd perform 还帮着确定奥利弗的表演风格
We hate green screen 我们都受不了绿幕拍摄
We hate green screen 我们最烦用绿幕
So we're always wanting to do all of this sort of stuff practically 所以我们总想实景拍摄这类场景
It's always like you have to shut down the roads 每次都得封路
And the actors can't drive 演员还不能亲自开车
So it's always like in Adelaide it's always such a thing 在阿德莱德拍戏总是这么麻烦
If you're filming a movie 如果你们在拍电影的话
Like the news and stuff 像新闻报道那种
So one of these ones we were shooting in the car driving 当时我们正开车拍摄其中一个场景
And the news was following and what's going on here 结果新闻车一直跟着，搞不清什么状况
What film are you guys making 你们这到底在拍什么片子啊
And the producers are trying to tell them not to post anything 制片方正在劝阻他们不要发布任何相关内容
Or show anything like that 也不要泄露任何相关画面
I love shooting from the back of him as well 我同样钟爱采用他的背影镜头
To have this sort of vantage point 这样独特的视角安排
As if Oliver is sort of experiencing himself outside of his own body 仿佛奥利弗正在以灵魂出窍般的视角审视自己
And it's always through a zoom lens 而且每次都是通过变焦镜头呈现
Yes we love the zooms 没错，我们超爱这种变焦效果
Again it was part of Oliver's visual language 这再次体现了奥利弗标志性的视觉语言风格
Yeah that's Oliver's visual language 没错，这就是奥利弗独特的视觉语言
I never would ever think that we would do zoom lenses 我压根就没想到我们最后会用变焦镜头
Slow zooms like that 这种慢镜头推近的手法
Yeah it was so perfect for Oliver 没错 这个处理对Oliver的角色塑造简直绝了
Yeah and especially when he was closing in 对啊 尤其是那种步步逼近的压迫感
Or when he was focusing on Piper when she first pulled up at the house 还有Piper初次登门时 镜头锁定她的那个瞬间
Why'd you say that again 你刚才那句话是什么意思
Yeah, so this scene where they're drinking of course not real alcohol 没错，这场喝酒戏用的当然不是真酒
But we wanted Sora to have a genuine reaction when she's drinking 但我们想让Sora喝的时候能给出真实的反应
So it's kinda like just apple juice or things like that 其实就是用苹果汁之类的替代
But for her I think it was like they put a bit of apple cider vinegar 不过给她喝的我记得加了点苹果醋
And things like that to make it give her a visceral reaction 加这些就是为了让她产生真实的生理反应
Like she really did hate it 她是真的不喜欢这个
Her reaction is real 她的反应绝对真实
Three two one four 三二一四
You'll see it in a second 马上就能看到了
It's always so complicated with drinks and bottles continuity-wise with where things are glasses and things like that 饮料和瓶子这类道具的镜头一致性管理非常复杂，尤其是像杯子这些，经常很难确保在多个镜头里位置、状态都一致。
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It's good right Oh that's disgusting You drink that 不错吧...呕！太恶心了 你竟然喝这种东西
Yeah, I'm more of a vodla slut, eh? 是啊，我更像一个伏特加荡妇，不是吗？
You go for it I hate Vodka 你上吧 我受不了伏特加
This was developed at the same time as Talk To Me 这部剧和《回应我》是同期开发的
We were writing both Talk To Me and Bring It Back at the same time 我们当时在同步创作《回应我》和《复活她》两部剧本
There is some of the same fingerprint outline 两部作品有着相似的创作脉络
Both of them got a bit of a messed up montage 两部片子都用了些非常规的蒙太奇手法
It can be fun one way that you look at it 换个角度看也挺有意思的
The other way you look at it you're like actually this is pretty fun 换个角度想，其实这事儿还挺有意思的
But you know it's fucked up in a way she's their foster mom she's getting them hammered 但说实话这真够离谱的 作为养母居然把这些孩子灌醉
And sort of letting Piper celebrate 还假装是在让Piper庆祝
Like she knows she's about to kill this girl 明明知道马上就要杀掉这个姑娘
She's gonna help her experience things 却还要假惺惺地让她体验人生
That she's never gonna be able to do in her life 这件她这辈子都甭想办成的事儿
But then also doing this thing to be able to get Andy drunk 但同时又耍这招把Andy灌醉
And get him vulnerable 趁他防备松懈
Find out some more secrets 套出更多秘密
And dig further into his psyche 深挖他的内心世界
We shot this montage for like an hour 这段蒙太奇我们拍了有个把钟头
No no no we were still for longer than an hour 不不不 我们呆立不动的时间可不止一小时
Were we? The initial cut of the montage was 40 minutes long 真的假的？蒙太奇初剪版都有40分钟那么长
And because there was so many funny moments 因为搞笑镜头实在太多了
And yeah 对啊
There were so many hilarious moments with everyone playing this scene through 这场戏大家演得笑料百出
Yeah it was like two hours of shooting 对啊这段拍了整整两小时
There was also a scene after this that was cut 其实这场戏后面还有段被剪的镜头
I'll say for this one the amount of takes they did exhausted them 说真的，这场戏NG太多遍把他们累够呛
They just seemed completely delusional 他们当时整个人都懵圈了
Over and over and over and over again 周而复始 循环往复
Over and over again 来来回回
Losing their minds 彻底抓狂
And like two circles spin around in circles spin around in circles spin around in 如同两个漩涡 旋转不止
So there was a scene that got cut of them after this 话说这段之后本来还有个场景
Before this hit them passed out of them ding dong dashing the neighbors 这个场景在他们这样醉醺醺之前，他们还玩起了按门铃撒腿就跑的把戏
Which is like when you run up to a house 就是那种突然冲到别人家门口
And you bang on it and then you sort of run away 使劲拍门后拔腿就跑
Ding dong dash, ding dong ditch 按完门铃撒腿就跑，按铃开溜
Yeah, and so we did it like there was a scene where they like drunkenly do that 没错，是有这么一个场景，他们醉醺醺地玩了这个按铃逃跑的恶作剧
And then Andy's driving and he drives 接着是安迪开车的场景，他一路疾驰
And he runs over bins and things like that 车子横冲直撞地碾过垃圾桶等障碍物
But pacing wise and thematically it didn't really work 但从节奏把控和主题契合度来看，这段确实不太协调
No it did work. No it was fine thematically 不，这段很成功。主题处理完全没问题
It was the pacing of this thing where it was 问题出在节奏把控上
We reached such a high and then to keep it going 我们当时状态正佳却还要乘胜追击
It just felt like come on 那种感觉就像是'加把劲'
Well yeah and then but what we did in the actual in rehearsals 确实如此 不过我们在实战排练中的表现
No what you don't want to say it 别欲言又止 你明明不想说破
No no no no no no we can say it is that 别别别 咱们打开天窗说亮话
We actually took Sally ding-dong ditching 我们真带莎莉去玩了按铃逃跑
We were talking about the scene and going through it 我们当时正讨论这场戏的每个细节
As we were breaking it down on a script level 当我们从剧本角度拆解这场戏时
And then we were just like do you want to go 然后我们突然说要不要去
Ding-dong dashing ding-dong ditching Sally's like yes 玩按铃快闪 玩按铃逃跑 莎莉立马说好啊
Yes, let's do it. And then we rang up Billy. 行啊，就这么干。接着我们给比利打了个电话
It was like 1 am. We rang up Billy. 那会儿都凌晨1点了。我们直接就给比利拨了过去
We were like, hey, you want to come ding dong ditching with Sally? 我们跟他说：'兄弟，要不要来玩'按了门铃就跑'？还是去找萨莉？'
He's like, yeah, alright. He's like, yeah, alright, well let's go. 他想都没想就说：'得嘞，走着！'爽快地答应了
And then we all went around like ding dong ditching. 接着我们几个就满小区玩起了'按铃就溜'的把戏
We run out on camera we've got to show it to them 我们跑出镜头范围了 必须让他们看看这段画面
It's so funny every house we went past 太搞笑了 我们路过的每户人家
Sally was coming up with an excuse not to go to that house 莎莉总能编出各种理由拒绝拜访那户人家
Oh the blinds I don't like the blinds in that house 哎呀那家的百叶窗 我看着就不顺眼
Oh that tree looks a little odd like trying to really not have to do it 那棵树长得怪怪的 像是在故意找茬不想干活
And then the house that she did end up ding dong ditching 后来她去按门铃恶作剧的那户人家
Had a camera at the front of it 那户人家门口正好装了监控
The funny part is that they woke up in the morning 最逗的是，第二天早上那家人醒来
And looked and recognized Sally 一翻监控就把莎莉认出来了
She actually got arrested for it 结果她还真因为这个事儿被抓了
She did not get arrested for it 她并没有因为这件事被抓
This scene, the performances of both of them was so incredible 这一幕两人的演技真是绝了
It was so hard picking. We did probably seven takes of Sally's 太难选了，莎莉的戏我们可能拍了七条
Yeah. And each one was 没错，每条都
Both of them knocked this out of the park 两人都演技超神
And it's one of those things like when the performances are so good 这就好比演员们的表演太过精彩
It's torturous in the edit to pick 剪辑时简直难以取舍
To pick which one like which direction they go down 不知该选哪条表演路线
Yeah they're never the same take 对，每条表演都独一无二
Like when performers are doing their feeling like this 演员们每次演绎都带着不同感觉
They have a different feeling 这些片段给人的感受截然不同
And they emphasise different things sometimes 而且每段戏的侧重点都各不相同
It was just so tricky like some of them 有些片段的处理相当具有挑战性
We had Sally sink into the sadness of it 我们引导莎莉完全沉浸在角色哀伤的情绪中
One disconnected and all of them were fucking incredible 一种麻木疏离的状态，但每一段表演都令人叹为观止
Same with Billy's. It was those things 比利那段也一样，关键就在那些细微的表演
There's so many alt versions of each scene 每个镜头我们都拍了好多条不同风格的表演
But that's what happens 不过这种情况很常见
When you've got incredible actors 当你合作的都是演技精湛的演员时
When they're feeling the emotion 当演员们完全沉浸在角色情绪中时
And they're bringing it to life so realistically 他们让这个场景栩栩如生
They're all both locked in here 两人都沉浸在这个场景中
It's so amazing and it was like we had to 效果太震撼了，我们当时只能这么做
There's some VFX work coming in for some of these shots 部分镜头会进行特效处理
But in a subtle way where it was just removing the boom mics 但处理手法很隐蔽，只是修掉了穿帮的麦克风
Because like they're expressing this stuff so low 由于演员们说台词的声音实在太轻了
That the microphone had to be wired up to their mouths 我们不得不把麦克风直接别在他们嘴边收音
And so there's microphones in these shots 导致这些镜头里都出现了麦克风
That had to be removed in post 这些麦克风都只能在后期制作时擦除
Not on this one. Not on this shot 不过这个镜头例外。这个画面里没有麦克风
But on those shots of Andy and stuff the wider one 不过安迪他们的那个全景镜头
Yeah actually it's oh my gosh 对啊真的超级惊艳
Yeah and then Cornell's music as well 还有康奈尔的配乐也是绝了
So beautiful Cornell composed it 太美了这可是康奈尔亲自操刀
I composed it such a fucking awesome job of this film 我负责作曲这活儿干得简直绝了
Well overall his music seems incredible 整体而言 他的音乐才华简直惊艳四座
You really felt it 你能真切地感受到那份感染力
We even sent him the script initially 我们早在一开始就把剧本发给了他
And he composed about 15 minutes of music 他就据此创作了约15分钟的原声
Just off of the feeling that he got from the script 全凭对剧本的感悟就一气呵成
And then even though it was 尽管当时的情况是
We were writing to that music editing to that music 我们完全是跟着那段音乐进行创作和剪辑的
It was so incredible 那种感觉简直妙不可言
And he does this thing see that 你们注意看他这个处理手法
Like the shift in tones 那种情绪基调的转换
How he can pull that up so seamlessly 他怎么能把那个动作做得这么行云流水
Is always incredible to listen to 每次听都觉得神乎其技
It's like one of those 就像是那种
That and the sound design department 还有音效设计部门
They don't get their praises sung enough 他们的功劳总是被低估
Where it's like the sound of a film is so important 电影音效的重要性不言而喻
It can control so much 它对影片的掌控力超乎想象
And it's our 为此
We have an amazing team 我们组建了一支顶尖团队
Emma Bording Yong our sound designer 音效设计师Emma Bording Yong
We absolutely adore working on 'Talk To Me' 我们实在太爱参与《回应我》的创作了
And just bringing these scenes to life and finding 将这些场景鲜活呈现并精心发掘
These audio cues that help represent a character's psyche 那些能完美呈现角色心理的听觉细节
Like she's just the best at it 她在这方面简直是个中翘楚
But it's so hard 但这个过程确实充满挑战
Like mixing a film 这就好比在给电影做混音
Like controlling every line of dialogue, controlling every atmosphere, controlling every sound effect 需要精准把控每句对白、每个场景氛围和每个音效细节
It's such a mission 这活儿可真不简单
And then even with the music 就连配乐部分也这么费工夫
Like say Oliver and there's those pops 比如奥利弗那段戏里的爆破音效处理
And it's not a pop it's a I forgot how he did it 这可不是普通流行乐 是那种...见鬼我忘了他是怎么演奏的
It's like this it's like an instrument 差不多是这样 就像在把玩某种奇特乐器
And it's something like when you play it a certain way 当你用特定手法操作它的时候
It creates this sound 就会迸发出这种神奇的音色
Or like something kind of 要么就是那种...难以形容的感觉
And it's the same with what happened to Oliver 奥利弗身上发生的事也是同样的情况
This demon coming out of Oliver 从奥利弗体内现身的恶魔
And it's like it was done with the music 这效果简直像是通过音乐来呈现的
In this practical way 采用这种实实在在的表现手法
I think it was the - I forgot what instrument they'd done it with 应该是...呃，我记不清他们具体用的是什么乐器了
But it was like creating this amazing sound 但这感觉就像在创造一段绝妙的旋律
I mean that's not very helpful 拜托 这话说了跟没说一样
What are you even saying 你在这鬼扯什么呢
I'm saying do you want to get punched in the face right now 信不信我现在就给你一拳头
Well I'm just saying I do not 呵 我只是说说 我可不想吃拳头
No, I don't. This part here 不想吃拳头，就是这段
So this is the scene where it's 所以这里就是这个场景
You can kind of question a little bit 你可能会觉得有点奇怪
Laura's a little bit strange 罗拉这姑娘有点怪
She's watching some very strange movies at night 她半夜总看些稀奇古怪的电影
But then this one is like she's downright evil 但这个角色简直是坏到骨子里了
Well I like the switch into it 我很喜欢这样的转变
Well I like that 这个我很中意
And it's also that immersion where it's like 还有就是那种身临其境的感觉
When you're at that daytime and you've got that 当你身处白昼时分，感受到那种氛围
You're really with the camera's point of view 你真的站在相机的视角
And I like that at night we shift perspectives 我喜欢夜间视角切换的设定
We move over to Laura and we get more 镜头转向Laura时我们能了解到更多
And more glimpses into her life 逐渐展现她生活的方方面面
And what's going on with her as a character 深入刻画她的人物性格和经历
And it's always this 这种画面感总是如此
These sort of shots here are what I wanted 这类镜头正是我想要的
Like a sense of voyeurism 想要营造一种偷窥视角
Where you're just a fly on the wall observing 就像是墙上的苍蝇在默默观察
And it's so detached. It's not personal, these moments 这种超然的视角。这些瞬间不带任何个人色彩
We're just observing this character in her space 我们只是在观察这个角色身处个人空间的场景
Yeah and seeing things that aren't meant to be 没错 我们还看到了些本不该看到的秘密
And it's this thing Andy thinks he's wetting the bed 比如安迪总怀疑自己尿床这档子事
Laura is a child psychologist 罗拉作为儿童心理专家
She knows how to help children, to fix children 她深谙儿童心理疏导和矫正之道
And by that nature she knows how to destroy and tear down 出于这种本性，她深谙毁灭与摧毁之道
Yeah. And this is what she's doing 没错，她现在就在这么干
She's making it seem like he's losing his mind 她故意制造他精神失常的假象
And it's like by the boxes and by the books 一种按道理来说没问题的假象
It's like when you can question these things 正如当你开始怀疑这一切时
And she knows how to paint them a certain way 她懂得如何用独特的笔触来呈现
I still like it 我还是很中意这个效果
I applaud that production team and these sets 必须给这个制作团队和场景设计点赞
I love them I applaud 我太爱这些设计了，必须给个大大的赞
We did one take of this at the end 最后这个镜头我们一条就过了
See these are Michael's random takes 看这些都是迈克尔随手拍的
These are one of the random takes though 这些是随手拍的多个镜头中的一个
I told Billiy to wake up when she's pouring the pee coffee 我让比利在倒尿液咖啡时打起精神
And she's like what what's that interesting 她还一脸懵地问这有什么好玩的
Yeah and it's fun watching 没错，看着特有意思
And it was so funny 那场面简直笑死人了
Yeah and she's like 'Shh, get back to bed' I guess 对啊我猜她像是说'嘘，快躺回去'
But that's it because we're dealing with these things 不过没办法 我们就是得面对这种状况
When you're dealing with such heavy subject matter 在探讨这么沉重的话题时
You want the sound of the set to be fun and playful 反而希望片场氛围轻松活泼些
That's true. So people aren't so dreary coming 说得对。这样大家来片场时也不会死气沉沉的
You know, have some time to play as well 你懂的，也得留点时间放松放松
Yeah, that is true 没错，确实是这样
That was Michael's thing to always create 这是迈克尔始终坚持的理念
Like a fun environment on set 营造轻松愉快的片场氛围
It's always like it was always at the end 这种愉快总是在最后
When we've got the takes the performers have gotten that space 等最终拍到完美镜头时，演员们早已完全进入角色状态
And it's like a fun way to sort of break out of it 这种打破这种凝重氛围方式特别带感
Yeah and allow them to break out of it 没错，这样正好让他们彻底放开
Like you do have a point 你说得确实很有道理
You do have a point. 你说得确实在理
Spooky, spooky, spooky. Jonah, I know you're hungry. 阴森森的...乔纳，我知道你肚子饿了
Little protection rune symbol there. 那是个小小的保护符文标记
Same shape as the pool. This is another thing like that. 形状跟泳池一模一样。这是另一个类似的存在
Even getting it's so strange when you look at these shots. 光是看着这些画面就让人毛骨悚然
There's a hole in the wall 墙上有一个洞
Where we had to cut to put the camera in 这是为了安装摄像机专门开的洞
To get this nice wide shot 这样才能获得完美的广角镜头
That's always so interesting about 这类场景最吸引人的地方就是
Any stuff of the horror and any stuff of makeup 无论是恐怖场景还是特效化妆
Where everyone's like, 'Oh, that was really intense.' 当所有人都感叹'天啊，那场面太刺激了'的时候
That must be really intense to film. 拍摄过程肯定特别虐吧
It's like, no, actually it was a lot of fun to film. 才不是呢，其实拍得超嗨的
When you're filming with a lot of prosthetics and makeup 虽然拍摄时用了大量特效化妆和假体
And all this sort of stuff. 还有各种花里胡哨的东西
It's always the practical side of filmmaking 电影制作永远绕不开这些实操环节
It's always the greatest, funnest thing ever 这活儿永远是既带劲又过瘾
the most deadly look boom 看那个杀气腾腾的眼神杀
What I love about Sally as well is that she always continues the character Sally还有一点特别棒，就是永远活在角色里
We never cut straight away 我们从不急着喊卡
We let her live in those moments 我们让她沉浸在这些瞬间中
And like the character would just perform 然后角色就会自然而然地表演起来
And you never know where it would lead 你永远猜不到剧情会如何发展
It was always the most beautiful thing 这样的时刻总是最动人的
What was that? Just keep the camera rolling 刚才那段怎么样？不用停，继续拍摄
You can keep the camera rolling 你可以让摄影机一直开着
Like when she's with like when she's getting Oliver 比如当她准备把奥利弗体内的恶魔
The demon back inside Oliver on the bed 重新封印回奥利弗体内时
And we just keep rolling 我们就一直拍摄下去
And then she just would not stop until you cold cut 她就会一直演到你喊停为止
Yeah yeah yeah and what's happening here Dan 对对对，现在这是什么情况啊丹
Well look we don't want to sit there and give things away Michael 这个嘛...我们可不想剧透太多啊迈克尔
Okay we're not going to give away 行吧我们不会剧透的
I mean we've done a little bit of giving away here 不过说真的，咱们已经稍微剧透了一些了
I think it's pretty obvious 这已经够明显了吧
But the idea is that she's 不过我们的设定是
Do we really want to sit there and explain everything 有必要把所有细节都解释清楚吗
Okay, I'll quickly explain a little bit of this 行吧，我简单说两句
But like it is a subtle thing here. Oh really 不过这里有个很精妙的设计。真的假的
Do we? Yeah, this is the only thing I'll say 要解释吗？好吧，我就说这一句
Cause I do like to leave things up 因为我喜欢给观众留白
for some interpretation but 让观众自行揣摩 不过
And so he's eaten a bit of the cat's tail here 可以看到他（应该指的是Oliver）在这里啃了一截猫尾巴
Very subtly we see this bleeding tail on the couch here 镜头非常隐晦地带过沙发上这条血迹斑斑的尾巴
You see it when he's walking into the pool with all the dripping yeah 当他走进水滴淋漓的泳池时，你会看到
And it's mimicking, it's mimicking 而且它学得有模有样
Or he's like channeling that cat in that moment 或者说他当时就像附体了那只猫一样
This was actually the first thing we shot in the house 这其实是我们在屋里拍的第一场戏
Was it? Yeah it was 真的吗？没错 就是这场
It was the first thing that we shot in the house 这是我们在这栋住宅里拍摄的第一个镜头
Is that dirty? I'm putting your wash on before we head out 那衣服脏了吗？出门前我帮你把衣服扔洗衣机了
No I'll come back. I'm not wasting water Andy 不用了我一会儿回来。安迪我才不浪费水呢
Andy come over 安迪你过来一下
We're always hiding somewhere as close as possible 我们总是躲在离得最近的地方
You going out? 你们要出门吗？
The shooting in the house was interesting because it's such a 室内拍摄特别有意思，毕竟这个场景
It's like a small film but with a crew in there 虽然规模不大，但整个剧组都挤在里面
Like where to put people is always so hard 光是人员调度就够让人头疼了
Like that when you're seeing the whole house 特别是要拍全屋场景的时候
People are like yeah everyone's got to kind of move their equipment outside or in different 大家都得把器材搬到室外或分散到各处
Like because we're actually on location on a set 毕竟我们是在实地取景的片场
So having people close by but not having them in the way 既要让人待在附近又不能碍事
Or in shot was always like an interesting thing 还不能穿帮，这总是个有趣的问题
Yeah I remember a cow 对，我记得有头牛还来凑热闹
And the house is on 这栋房子就这么矗立着
It's so strange. This house is on public land almost 太不可思议了，这房子几乎就建在公共用地上
There's like a walking trail through the front yard of the house 居然有条步行道直接从房子前院穿过
So people would walk by while we're shooting 拍摄时总有路人从旁边经过
And people constantly walking past and filming 路人络绎不绝地经过，还有人举着手机拍我们
And then people were just at night time 结果人们趁着夜色
Climbing the cranes because we had cranes 开始攀爬现场的起重机
For the rain machines and things like that 那些原本是给降雨机准备的设备
One lady showed up in the pool 有位女士不知怎么跑进了泳池
At 2 am in the morning 还是在凌晨两点这种时候
She was standing looking at the pool 她站在那儿盯着游泳池看
But that one was strange 不过那个场景特别诡异
Because that was in someone's backyard 因为那竟然是别人家的后院
And there was this creepy lady just standing 更瘆人的是有个诡异女人直挺挺站在那儿
In the backyard and security's like 站在别人家后院，保安的反应也很奇怪
Excuse me, you can't be here 不好意思，这里不能停留
She's like, I'm allowed to look at the pool 她还理直气壮地说：我有权看游泳池
Yeah, that's very odd 是啊，这也太离谱了
He's like, yeah, I think it's private property 他接着说：对啊，这应该是私人领地
There is, yeah, the house had no room to move anywhere in there like our 是的，房子里没有任何可以移动的空间
We had a very close family friend pass away 我们失去了一位挚友
Right at the start of pre-production 恰逢电影筹备阶段刚开始
Harley who we dedicate the film to at the end there 哈雷，我们在片尾鸣谢中特别致敬的人
And like we were still processing his passing 当时我们仍沉浸在悲痛之中
As this and grieving while the shoot was happening 在拍摄过程中，悲伤情绪也随之而来
It was sort of like it sort of started 这种感觉似乎逐渐形成
Falling into the script as well 这种情绪也自然融入了剧本
And some pages changed but there was 虽然部分剧本内容有所改动
I just remember there was two or three times 但我清楚地记得有两三次
I was overwhelmed by what was shooting and it was reminding me of him so much 我被拍摄的场景震撼了，这让我想起了他
And I would break down and go for a cry somewhere 我常常情绪崩溃，躲到角落失声痛哭
and every room there was full of people 可每个房间都挤满了人
So it was like there was just nowhere to have a private moment 感觉根本没处可去来找个独处的空间
In other news that pool shed is completely 另外那个泳池小屋
built on location. Yes that pool shed was not there 是实景搭建的。没错那里本来没有泳池小屋
And this is not a real fly 这只苍蝇是假的
That is not a real fly but actually no 那不是真苍蝇，其实不是
The one on the windowsill it didn't get hit 窗台那只逃过一劫
But we practically shot flies buzzing around 但我们确实拍了到处乱飞的苍蝇
Buzzing around yeah 没错就是到处飞
There was a fly wrangler there was a fly wrangler 有个专门的牧蝇人 对 赶苍蝇的
That came on set and he opened out this thing 他带着那个道具来到片场，然后打开了它
And the flies came out and then he puts them back 顿时苍蝇蜂拥而出，他又慌忙把这些虫子塞了回去
In his little thing 重新关回那个小容器里
So there was a fly wrangler on set 没想到片场还专门配备了驯蝇师
So we had to build like a bit of a cage 为此我们不得不临时搭建了一个小型昆虫围笼
Around that section but Oliver didn't eat a real fly 虽然拍摄那场戏时 奥利弗其实没吃真苍蝇
No he did not It was always 确实没有 用的从来都是替代品
Everything was always very tasty 道具食品一直都做得很可口
And then just so he could enjoy it 这样他表演时才能更加投入
And do take after take of eating that sort of stuff 才能反复拍摄吃那些道具的镜头
Bit of a character trait of Andy 这算是安迪的一个特点
He's a bit of a thief isn't he 他有点小偷小摸的毛病吧
Bit of a robber. He knows how to break into closets 简直就是个强盗，连撬壁橱都会
You hungry? 饿不饿
Here we are. 到啦
We did a test screening 我们进行了试映会
And this scene was both people's most favorite scene 这个场景既是最受观众喜爱的
And the most hated scene because it's so violent 也是最具争议的，因为暴力程度太高
It's one of those things I think when we 我觉得这种矛盾心理就像是
I guess with us it's like it's not that violent 可能在我们看来其实没那么暴力
Maybe I mean it's pretty violent 我是说这个镜头确实挺血腥的
This is like the sound of it we couldn't fake the sound of it 这种音效我们根本没法造假
There was like there was a pass with the sound effects in there 有一版的声音是包含特效音效的
And they sounded a little bit sound effect-y 那些音效听着还是有点假
And you couldn't like that sound of metal against teeth is so specific 金属撞击牙齿的声音实在太特别了，完全无法复制
So when we were in the sound designer's office 当时我们在音效师的工作室里
I was like, 'Do you want to just record me?' 我就说：'要不直接录我的声音吧？'
'Can you bring me a knife?' '能帮我拿把刀来吗？'
And so she brought in a knife and I went to town, chewing on some knives for this scene 结果她真拿了把刀来，我就豁出去了，为这场戏真的用嘴咬了几把刀
He was clinking on his teeth. It was disgusting sounding. 他牙齿咯吱作响的声音简直让人反胃
But the sound is so incredible. 但这音效简直绝了！
How good is the sound. 这音效简直绝绝子！
And then this is the one we had with Oliver. 接下来这段是我们和奥利弗合作完成的
Jonah with a foam knife in his mouth chewing. 乔纳嘴里咬着泡沫塑料刀嚼个不停
And then there was a head we recreated a head 我们后来还原制作了一个头部模型
So the part where it goes through his lip 就是刀具穿透嘴唇的那个特效片段
And things like that is a prosthetic head 这类穿透效果都是用的特效假头
And then we did that with a real knife 为求真实我们甚至动用了真刀拍摄
Like slicing up through his lip 比如真刀划开嘴唇的特写镜头
So the prosthetics team Larry who's incredible 特效化妆师Larry简直神了
Had this bit of the mouth that you could cut up 这个嘴部模型可以随意裁剪
this is looks horrifying 这看起来很恐怖
But always shoot practically always shoot the plates 但始终坚持实拍背景板镜头的原则
And just use the effects to blend them together 借助特效将这些画面无缝衔接
Even all this stuff with the stomach moving and everything is shot practically 连这些胃部蠕动的镜头全都是实拍效果
Like imagine being on a walking trail 试想一下你正在徒步小径上行走
And you turn around and then there's this happening 一回头却撞见这种惊悚场面
There's a big crane overhead 头顶还悬着台庞然大物般的起重机
Yeah, there's always people coming across 没错，经常有人会碰巧经过这里
All of his tummy is fluttering like a monster 他整个肚子像怪兽一样疯狂抽搐
And he's screaming 还不停发出凄厉惨叫
All foam rocks there as well 那些泡沫制作的岩石道具效果同样逼真
Yeah, that was cool because obviously you don't want to be sliding across real rocks 确实很带感，毕竟谁都不想真的在尖锐的岩石上滑行
So all there is like foam fake rocks 所以那边全是泡沫塑料做的仿真岩石
That you can probably slide on with a mat 铺个垫子就能当滑梯玩
It's so cool like that stuff production design 这美术设计简直绝绝子
Yeah yeah And then see this like the fluttering 对对对 快看这个飘来飘去的效果
It's like a fake tummy and they've got air compressor underneath 这假肚子道具下面藏着空气压缩机呢
And it's like shooting air up under it 就像在底下打气一样
It's like fluttering on him 就像在他身上扑棱扑棱地抖动
Yeah, yeah. Makes his gut look like it's something trying to escape 没错没错。他肚子鼓得跟要炸开似的
And then here comes Sally over 这时莎莉走了过来
And even like with that mouth shot 连那个嘴部特写镜头也不例外
Like the VFX, they're just showing how we use it 和视觉特效一样，这里展示的是我们如何运用这些技术
You could see that there was some blackout on his teeth 可以看到他牙齿缺了一块
Because obviously he couldn't knock his teeth out 毕竟总不能真把演员的牙齿打掉吧
It was about removing that stuff in post 这些效果都要靠后期制作来完成
Just the most subtle things to help elevate each of those shots 正是这些精妙的细节处理让每个镜头都更出色
What point is he outside? 他为什么要到外面来？
Sally's got such an incredible scream 莎莉的尖叫声简直绝了
We use like later on in the film 我们在影片后半段也用到了
We use her scream as these transition points 我们把她的尖叫声作为转场节点
Because she's got such a powerful scream 因为她的尖叫声简直震撼力爆表
And this is another thing with the sound design 这又是声音设计的一个巧妙之处
Is having Piper's voice be the calming element for Andy 就是让Piper的声音成为安抚Andy情绪的良药
He's spinning out of control when she's the one 当Piper出现时，Andy的情绪完全失控了
He brings him back down to reality 是Piper将他的神智拉回现实
Yeah but a calming presence 没错，她就是那个能让人安定心神的存在
So everything's scattered and everything 所以所有东西都七零八落的
And here when she's speaking to him being nice and clear 这时候她跟他说话既温柔又字字清晰
He's trying to convey a panic attack with sound design 他想用声音设计表现那种恐慌发作的感觉
And trying to like that disconnected feeling 还想呈现那种魂不附体的抽离感
You don't feel like you're grounded. You've got no grounding 会觉得整个人飘着没着没落 完全找不到支点
You're spinning out of control 你已经完全失控了
Yeah, she's Andy's anchor 没错，她就是安迪的定心丸
And then Bird's written on the... Bird? Connor Bird? 然后上面写着伯德...等等，伯德？是康纳·伯德吗？
Oh, is that what that is? 哦，原来是这个意思啊？
Michael didn't write the film, but that's okay. Look 虽然剧本不是迈克尔写的，不过这没关系。你看
And this as well like even the VHS stuff 就连这些VHS素材也是
And like shooting that stuff everything shot on actual VHS cameras 所有画面都是用真正的VHS摄像机实拍的
Because you can always tell that post effect I hate that post 那些后期特效一眼就能看穿 我特别反感这种处理
Look where you fake the static and you fake the look of the VHS you know that VHS 看看那些伪造的雪花纹和VHS质感 就是那种典型的VHS效果
So like I hate those presets or like doing it in digital 我特别反感那些预设模板和数字后期特效
So all of that stuff was shot for real 刚才展示的所有场景都是实景拍摄的
And then Jack Troise who was that awesome guy 还有我们团队的特效大神Jack Troise
That we work with VFX department 他负责带领我们的VFX视觉特效团队
And he like every shot that's in the VHS scene VHS录像带场景的每个镜头他都要亲自把关
He would render out like seven eight different times 每个镜头他都要反复渲染七八个不同版本
Sometimes 18 times when I really wanted the static to come in 有时我会反复调试18次 就为了让白噪音恰到好处地出现
With different amounts of static 调试不同量级的白噪音强度
And I was able to edit and put together the way 最终通过混音剪辑将这些元素完美融合
That I wanted the static to come in through the production 在整个制作流程达成我追求的理想白噪音效果
Like rewinding and fast forward of these tapes for real 简直就像在真实操控录像带倒带快进一样
It's so funny if this was real life 要真发生在现实生活里就太搞笑了
Because Jonah is so multi talented 因为Jonah简直就是个全能选手
He's actually a Muay Thai fighter as well 没想到他还是个泰拳高手
He said he's 10 years old and he's had three fights 他自称十岁就已经打过三场正式比赛
So if this was a real scene he would have been like kneeing and elbowing her 如果是真实打斗的话 他应该早就膝肘连击招呼上去了
And it would have been a big I don't know about that 真要那样的话 观众肯定都得惊掉下巴
It would have been a UFC showdown 分分钟变成UFC冠军争夺战
It would have been a showdown 绝对会发展成生死对决
A bit of Veronica's there 一点点薇罗尼卡的歌
And then that's with the static as well going into with Laura's headspace 这段白噪音的设计，暗示着罗拉逐渐混乱的精神状态
Yeah it's going to be captured in that snow 是的，这种混乱状态会完全淹没在白噪音里
Yeah she's getting lost to the madness yeah getting lost 没错，她正在被疯狂吞噬，彻底迷失了自我
See here you hear it 注意听这个细节
Yeah I love the sound work 这段声音设计真是绝了
Here you can hear it 你在这儿应该能听到这个声音
Are you trying to? People can hear it 你到底能不能听见？其他人都听到了
Come in. Do you guys hear that? 快进来！你们听到没有？
They won't hear it because you need to shut the fuck up and let them listen 你一直说话别人怎么听得见？先闭嘴行不行
Yeah I'm trying to give my commentary some breaks and stuff 我总得歇口气吧 解说也不能连轴转啊
I'm joking. I'm joking. No, no, no. 我开玩笑的！别当真，真的不是真的
You're doing great. I don't think anyone's listening right now. 你表现超棒！不过估计这会儿观众都跑光了
But let's continue for the two people listening. 不过为了那两位忠实听众，咱们还是继续吧！
We do appreciate you purchasing the Blu-ray and having a listen. 真心感谢各位购买蓝光碟来听我们的解说
We hope you're learning something. 希望这些幕后花絮能让大家有所收获
There was an extended shot of her locking the door 这里有个她锁门的长镜头
Will he be okay? 他会没事吧？
Yeah, we're so tired of every frame while we're editing 可不是嘛，剪辑时每个镜头都看得想吐
Because you know, oh my God 你懂的，简直要命
Even that shot where she turns at the end there and it's in her headspace 连最后那个转身镜头都是她内心戏
It's so hard once you lock a cut once you lock and edit 一旦确定剪辑方案完成编辑，想再修改就非常困难
Going in and extending something or changing a shot is so hard 想要延长某个片段或更换镜头都非常棘手
Because it has to get changed and then go across all these different departments 因为任何改动都需要走完各个部门的审批流程
And all these different post people that are working on sound foley music 还要协调负责声音、拟音和音乐的各个后期团队
There's all these changes that have got to 真是牵一发而动全身
Get put into each of those versions of the film 这些内容被分别放入电影的各个版本里
And there were so many times I feel so bad 很多时候我都觉得特别难受
Where once we're doing the sound design once we're doing the music 有时候我们做声音设计，有时候我们配乐
It's like that edit works when it's not 明明剪辑看起来没问题，实际上却不奏效
When you don't have that stuff included 这时你的剪辑没有后期的声音
But then with it included it wasn't long enough of a break before you cut outside to the room 但是加上后期声音之后，那个短暂停顿还不够长，你就直接切到外面那个房间了。
And so I always felt so bad like three times 这事儿让我特别过意不去，前后得有三回
And we love our producer Samantha Jennings so much 我们超级喜欢我们的制片人萨曼莎·詹宁斯
She would allow me to go okay could we 她总会迁就我：'要不咱们这样...'
And re-render. And it's always small things 接着二次渲染。往往就是这些细微之处
Like 13 frames on the end of that final shot of Laura looking to the side 就像罗拉最后侧目镜头的13帧收尾
And like five frames of the head of the next shot 以及下个镜头开头的5帧画面
Just to give us that extra beat 就是为了多留那么一点节奏感
Yeah. It's always. And that's the thing is 没错。一贯如此。关键就在这里
That's with going from YouTube to film 这是从YouTube跨入电影圈的转变
There's so many more people involved 参与的人员规模完全不可同日而语
And every kind of decision has to be really thought about 每个决策都需要深思熟虑
Because the implications of pulling something like that off is 因为要搞定这种事的连带影响
It's just so complicated. And Mark did it like three times 过程超级复杂。但马克居然成功搞定了三次
I did it three times. I really tried to be okay. 我试了三次，真的努力想表现得若无其事
But you know when you're watching something and it's just not clicking. 但就像你看某个东西时就是找不到感觉
It's just not. There's like a flow that you feel is right. 就是不对劲，总觉得少了那种应有的流畅感
And I could be wrong. I don't know. 也许是我判断有误，我也说不准
But I always just have this pacing and this flow in my head. 但我脑海里总有个特定的节奏和韵律
Like I did it on Talk To Me as well 就像我之前拍《回应我》时也这么干过
Before Riley smashes his head on the table 就在莱利一头撞向桌子那个镜头之前
And I'm like oh it's three frames too short 我突然发现：糟糕，这镜头短了三帧啊
And they had to re-render the whole movie to do that 结果整个片子都得重新渲染一遍
To give that in. Yeah yeah. That's about this movie 就为了补这三帧。对对，我说的就是这部片子
Yeah, about this film that circle around the house 说到片中那个环绕房屋的环形场景
Like the production team painted for real 美术团队实打实做了整个场景绘制
This giant circle around the house 那个环绕房屋的巨型环形结构
20% of that is VFX like stitching it together 其中20%是靠视效后期合成
But we actually painted 80% of that circle around the house 但80%的环形场景都是美术团队实景绘制的
We couldn't paint over the walking trail 我们没法把步行道给抹掉
It was the only thing that stitched us 那是唯一把我们串联起来的东西
So there's a moment there that you know 所以那一刻你懂的
We had to blend in with the VFX 我们得和后期特效完美融合
But yes, always love grabbing as many practical elements as possible 不过确实，我们总想尽量多保留实拍素材
This is one of the earliest scenes that we did as well 这个场景同样属于我们最早拍摄的一批镜头
There's a guy whose name is Michael Gilmore 有个家伙名叫迈克尔·吉尔摩(Michael Gilmore)
He's a friend of ours but he always finds a way to get on set somehow 他是我们朋友但总能用各种方式混进拍摄现场
Because he wasn't on the crew but he'd find ways to get on set 虽然不在剧组编制内，他却总有门路混进片场
And then he because he works with medical equipment 后来发现他能进组是因为从事医疗器械行业
And things like that he came on for that 像这样的情况他也来参与了
And I'm like alright put a nurse's outfit 我就说那就套件护士装吧
A doctor's outfit on and come help with this scene 再披件白大褂来帮忙拍这段戏
So you see him run up in the background there yeah 所以你能看到他在背景里跑过去 没错
And that's a completely pointless story that has nothing to do with anything 这就是个毫无意义的插曲 跟剧情完全不沾边
So there he is. There's Gilmore. 看啊，他就在那儿——那就是吉尔摩
He helped out with Talk to Me as well. 之前拍摄《回应我》时他也参与过协助
Like bringing us the medical equipment. And here we are. 比如之前帮剧组筹备医疗器材。现在拍摄现场又见到他
Second half of the film, the rain hits. 电影进入后半程时，暴雨突然来袭
And rain, oh my Lord. 那场暴雨啊，简直太夸张了
This day we were splitting up shooting different shots 当天我们分镜拍摄了不同场景
So I was getting those shots 我那组负责拍摄这些画面
And then Danny you were doing Andy coming out of the car 丹尼你那组在拍安迪下车的戏份
And those things when it starts raining for real 还有后来真的下雨时的那些突发状况
Like getting camera quick run outside 比如要扛着设备冒雨抢拍
We run outside quickly. It's raining 我们赶紧冲出门外，外面正下着雨
So it was like trying to capture as much of the actual rain as possible 所以我们当时尽可能多地抓拍真实雨景
And also there's a lot of 而且还需要很多
There was a giant crane that was above the house at all times 有台大型吊车始终悬停在房屋正上方
That was there to control all those rain scenes 那台设备专门用来调控所有雨景镜头的拍摄
Like all of that is just 所有这些都只是
Yeah so that's the thing is we didn't realize how much work rain is 是啊，我们当时真没想到拍雨戏这么费劲
Because when we did rain on Talk To Me it looked so amazing 之前在《回应我》里拍的雨戏效果简直惊艳
And the second half of this film is in rain 这部电影下半场几乎全是雨戏
Doing it practically when it's not raining is like the setup and the 晴天拍雨戏既要布置又要
There was a crane with this massive hose from a firetruck 当时有台起重机吊着消防车的巨型水管
On top of this 就悬在屋顶上方
Suspended on top of the house spinning water 在屋顶上方旋转喷洒着水柱
And then on the windows and things like that 水柱喷向窗户等各处
And once you do a shot like someone dry to wet 当你要拍摄人物从干到湿的转变镜头时
And then the clothing sound all that stuff gets so complicated and messy 接着服装音效这些就会变得特别麻烦又难搞
And then also you can only shoot certain things 而且有些场景你还只能在特定情况下拍摄
At certain times of the day like if it's a sunny day 比如大晴天的时候，就只能在那几个小时的黄金时段拍
Luckily that was one of the other things 好在选址时我们早就考虑到这一点了
About picking the location for the house 当初选这个拍摄场地时就考虑过这个问题
It was sort of in this valley or this grove 那地方像是个隐蔽的山谷或小树林
So the sun sort of set a bit early 所以太阳会提前落山
Because it fell behind the hills 因为被山峦挡住了阳光
And that's when there's no direct sunlight. There's no direct shadow 这时候既没有直射光也没有投影
So that's when you can really control the rain in the film 所以这种光线条件最适合控制电影中的雨景
And make it feel like it's raining for real 营造逼真的下雨效果
So there's some scenes in there 电影中有几个特殊场景
Where we only had two hours to shoot certain shots 某些关键镜头的拍摄档期只有两小时
Because that's when the light will be right 必须在这个黄金光线时段完成拍摄
But even here like so this is a set 但其实你们看到的这个也是专门搭建的片场
So it's upstairs 就在楼上
And see the reflections on the left there on the wall and stuff 看左边墙上那些反光效果
We had rain machines in the studio 我们在片场架设了人工降雨设备
And then they had to figure out ways 后来他们想方设法
to have that rain hit the window 模拟雨水打在窗户上的效果
Because I wanted every single shot 因为我想确保每个画面都完美呈现
I wanted to feel like it's raining inside the house 我想营造出室内下雨的沉浸感
Every single one of these sets from the upstairs bedroom 从楼上卧室的每一处布景
Is like a sense where it's raining inside the house 都呈现出室内下雨的感觉
We didn't want to do it with VFX 我们坚持不用特效来实现这种效果
But the practical thing of water going inside a studio 但实际要让水进入摄影棚内部
Going down onto the ground into these pools 注入地面特制的水池中
And then getting suctioned out and then reused 再经抽水系统回收利用
It's such a process to pull off things 完成这套操作流程相当费工夫
That seem so simple when you're watching it 银幕上看着简单，实则大有门道
Oh my gosh here's a quite awesome story 天啊，这故事简直绝了
So we made a deal with Sophie Wilde 我们和索菲·怀尔德谈妥了
Who was in Talk To Me 就是《人鬼对话》里的那位
That she would be in every single one of our films 以后我们每部电影她都会来客串
And so she made a cameo in this scene 所以这场戏她就来露了个脸
This is one of the first things that we shot 这是我们最早拍摄的几组镜头之一
This footage that Laurie was watching 现在劳瑞看的这段素材
That was the first thing we shot, wasn't it 那是最早拍的镜头没错吧
Yeah, it was the very first thing 对，那就是第一组镜头
It was shot in pre 这是在前期制作期间拍的
You see you only see her arm so there's one there 镜头里只拍到她的一只手臂，就是那边那个
That's Sophie Wilde on the right 画面右侧那位就是索菲·王尔德
That's Sophie Wilde on the right there that's her cameo there 注意看右边，索菲·王尔德那个客串镜头就是她
So she played middle-aged Mum 4 which was her character 她演的角色是'中年妈妈4号'这个人物
She was dressed as a pirate she was 她那会儿是一身海盗打扮
But we really tried to get her in 我们确实努力想让她参演
but the shots of the videotape were so important 但那些录像带画面实在太关键了
of when what you see where and that it's that thing 必须完整保留原始影像的时空信息
with Kathy's face as well 凯茜的面部特写同样不可或缺
We didn't ever want to probably show that until the ending 我们可能直到最后才会把这些揭露出来
This was a very sound design-led scene 这个音效驱动的场景堪称声画设计典范
which I love the sound design and the element of that 我尤其激赏这段精妙的声效设计，每个声效元素都独具匠心
where Andy's sort of concussed 当安迪出现疑似轻度脑震荡症状时
and he's not completely in his right state of mind 他正处于神志恍惚的意识模糊状态
And then the true thing with frenzy and concussions 说到狂乱和脑震荡的真实状态
And stuff it was like your mind isn't completely there yet 那种感觉就像是你的神志还没完全清醒
And you can have like a whole sort of like 你可能会经历各种奇怪的状态
You could live hours and not remember that sort of stuff 可能会浑浑噩噩过了几个小时却毫无记忆
And like forget things so easily 记忆力也会变得特别差
I remember when I was in 我记得那时
I had a car crash when I was 16 我16岁那年出了场车祸
I sort of split the top of my eye open 我眼皮上方都摔裂了
I was in hospital and I was concussed 不仅住院还脑震荡了
And like I thought I lived 当时都以为要没命了
I was telling people that I lived on a certain street 我当时逢人就说自己住在某条特定的街道上
but I was mentioning that as my last name 却把这个地址当成了自己的姓氏来说
Like everything's sort of muddled and you're like 整个人就像被搅得晕头转向
like your feet aren't on the ground yet 感觉整个人都轻飘飘的找不着北
You don't, you're too scattered 整个人魂不守舍的，根本静不下心来
He said something 他当时说了些话
Sally, I mean Billy as well 不只是莎莉，比利也一样
But it's just like one of those things 但这种事情就是这样
Like Sally analyzing every single line of the script 就像莎莉逐字逐句分析剧本
Like breaking down every single part of the dialogue 把每句台词都掰开揉碎地分析
And it's sort of like 这感觉就像是
Even a small line like when they're doing their DM 就连他们私信聊天时的一句简单对白
Laura says in the script she's like 剧本里罗拉的台词写着
I would have done just about anything 我本应该什么都愿意做
To hear her call me mum one more time 只为能再听她喊我一声妈
She's like could I say I would do anything 她说我能说'我什么都愿意做'吗
Like keep it in the present tense 采用现在时态的表述手法
And then like even a small thing like that 即便是如此细微的笔触
Like adds so much weight to the character and to the script 却能让角色形象和剧本质感大幅提升
And it's like that's how close of an eye she's got on the script and on her character. 足见她对角色和剧本的洞察有多么入微
Hey, don't worry 嗨，放轻松
And the process of working with her 还有和她共事的经历
We shot things in a certain order for Sora's scene 拍摄Sora的戏份时我们特别安排了顺序
But also for Sally 对Sally的戏份也同样如此
To try and keep things as linear as possible 尽量按照时间线来拍摄
She can live as many of those moments and have them 她既能体验这些精彩瞬间 又能珍藏于心
Like to build to those bigger moments 就像是为重要时刻做铺垫
It was great as well 这种感觉同样妙不可言
Because then it's like there's a real 因为这样才显得真实可信
You're not putting yourself in a headspace 你不用刻意调整心理状态
Oh, where's that character going to be in thinking? Wait, wait, wait. Look at this. Look at this. Very subtle. 等等，这个角色此刻在想什么？先别急，快看这个镜头。太绝了
Very subtle aspect ratio change. 这个画幅比例的调整简直绝了
Like I wanted these moments. 这些就是我梦寐以求的瞬间啊
Like she's stepping back through time. 宛如她正在时光长河中逆流而上
And she's like reliving everything that she wanted. 她仿佛在重温那些曾经魂牵梦萦的过往
And to capture this like 为了定格这个瞬间
This feeling, this euphoric feeling of Laura in this moment 这种感受，罗拉此刻正沉浸其中的心醉神迷
There's a heart opening up. Everything's opening up 心门正在敞开。整个世界都在她面前展开
And I think this is when Laura is really struggling 我觉得这正是罗拉内心挣扎最激烈的时候
With what she has to do 面对她必须完成的任务
She's turning back time in this moment 此刻她正让时光倒流
So it captures the next wide shot with the rain 于是雨中这个全景镜头就此定格
We've got it in reverse and it's falling upwards 倒放的画面里 雨滴竟逆流而上
Laura is where she's always wanted to be 罗拉终至心之所向
She has a daughter again in these moments 时光倒流间 她重获女儿相伴
Like they've reunited 仿佛他们久别重逢
Yeah, it's one of my favorite shots in the film 没错，这个画面堪称整部电影中我的最爱
And it's one of my favorite score pieces, Cornell again 同样是我最爱的配乐段落，还是Cornell的手笔
Listen to this 仔细品味这段
I remember when he showed me this piece 我仍清晰记得他向我呈现这段旋律的情景
And then I was sitting in his studio 当时我就坐在他的录音棚里
He has an awesome studio 他那录音棚简直绝了
It's like a sauna 热得跟桑拿房似的
Like a sauna 就跟蒸桑拿一样
It's like one of those circular saunas 特别像那种圆形的汗蒸房
But inside it because it keeps the audio in there nicely 因为这个小屋能完美保存声音效果
And he has all these like equipment in there 而且里面装满了各种专业设备
And it's in his backyard 更绝的是这就在他家后院里
It's so fucking cool 简直酷毙了
And he makes this magic in there 他就是在这里创造音乐魔法的
We're going to have to rate this 我们得好好评评这个
See that pool shed in the background 看背景里那个泳池边的小屋
They built that 那是他们搭的
That was probably my favorite thing from production design 这八成是美术设计里我最中意的一处
Oh really? Yeah yeah. And when we were doing the rain 真的假的？对对对。我们拍下雨戏那会儿
I'd like to see this pool shed 我喜欢看泳池小屋
Because this is on location that they built 因为这是剧组专门搭建的实景棚子
When we were doing those big rain shots 我们拍暴雨戏份的时候
It started flooding under into the pool shed 结果雨水倒灌进了工具间
And it went up to knee height 积水已经没到膝盖那么高了
And they had that 当时情况就是那样
And it was once we were shooting inside the house 有一次我们在房子里面拍摄
And then water was leaking into the house That's how much it came 结果雨水倒灌进屋 积水深得吓人
There was that much pelting into 暴雨哗啦啦地往里灌
And even this thing it was like 就连接下来环节也是受雨水的影响
Like ADI is like additional dialogue recording ADI指的就是补录对白
Where you have to re-record certain lines 需要重新录制特定台词
Because like it's not clean enough 因为原始录音不够清晰
Or like you know you didn't capture it enough 或者现场收音效果不佳
But there's certain scenes like this where 不过这样的某些镜头
I like some of the people on the 我很欣赏音频团队里
The audio team were talking about re-recording some of this dialogue to keep it clean 音频组曾提议重录部分台词保证清晰度
Because the water was interfering 毕竟水流声会造成干扰
But it disturbed the performances too much 但那样会严重影响演员发挥
To fall back into this exact head space that they're in in these moments here 想要完全重现他们当时的心境
And re-record stuff 再重新录一遍
It feels a little bit disconnected 总觉得有点对不上感觉
So it's just one of those moments where it was 所以这就是那种特别的状态
It's raining in the background 背景里雨声淅沥
Let's just accept that there's some murkiness in some of the audio 有些音轨确实有点糊，咱们坦然接受就好
And run with that 就这么将就着用吧
Because to try and recreate some of those performances 要知道重录这些表演片段
It sometimes takes the soul out of the production 反而会让作品失去原有的神韵
Out of the performance 让表演变得索然无味
It's such an amazing scene between them both 两人这场对手戏令人惊叹不已
Yeah 没错
This could have been a turning point for Laura 这原本能成为Laura人生的转折点
She gets rejected a little bit here so she's realizing that 她在此遭遇一点小拒绝后所以她意识到
She's thinking maybe this could work 她心想着或许这次能成
She's connecting with Piper so strongly here 她此刻与Piper的共鸣如此强烈
there's the makeup 这里有特效化妆
So this is that prosthetic thing 原来这就是那个特效假体啊
This is Make-Up Effects that did this Cathy corpse which is so incredible 这个惊为天人的Cathy尸体造型是Make-Up Effects特效团队打造的
And it's the same performer that we saw that was playing Cathy in those flashbacks 而且扮演者就是闪回片段里那位Cathy的演员
Yeah they like created this corpse version of her and it's just like 没错，他们居然把她做成了尸体版，简直绝了
I just can't believe how they're able to bring it to life 天呐，他们居然能把场景做得这么活灵活现
And even the conversations of how to fake the ice 连制作仿真冰面的幕后细节都要反复讨论
Yeah it's fake ice which is unreal 确实是仿真冰道具，但效果简直以假乱真
It looks freezing cold but it's fake ice. It's all just shows like 视觉效果寒气逼人，其实全是电影魔术的特效道具
That's what the best part about making a film is 这种将想象变为现实的魔力，正是电影制作最迷人的部分
Collaborating with all these different artists 能与这么多风格迥异的艺术家们携手创作
And everyone throwing their creative energies into something 大家倾注全部创意激情共同打造作品
To bring something to life 让作品焕发生命力
And it's just like I love it 这种创作过程简直让我欲罢不能
It's a bit like a carnival sometimes 有时候热闹得就像狂欢嘉年华
Because there's all these personalities in this one place 因为各色人物形象都汇聚于此
But it's the most amazing thing 但这才是最奇妙的地方
She doesn't look freezing cold 她看起来丝毫没有冻僵的样子
And it looks freezing cold but that's not real ice. It's incredible 不，看起来就是相当冷，但那其实不是真冰。简直难以置信
And the body looks unreal 就连身体姿态都美得不真实
And this is yeah 这个嘛，确实如此
And this shot coming up I love trying to visually tell story without dialogue as well 关于接下来的镜头，我很喜欢用这种视觉语言来讲故事，不需要一句台词
This was one of those moments here as well 这一幕也是这样的经典时刻
Where we're with Laura and going in this transition into the pool 我们跟随着罗拉，一起进入泳池这个转场
Her being consumed by this idea 她被这个念头完全占据了
That she's going to bring her daughter back to life 她准备复活自己的女儿
And she feels like she's drowning in this moment 此刻她感觉快要窒息
And it's sort of like tying everything back to the pool 这仿佛将所有事情都与那个水池联系在一起
Back to this drowning, back to this ritual that she's going to have to perform 回到溺水那一刻，回到她必须完成的仪式
The line? See that? Yeah, look at the line 那条线？看见没？对，看那条线
Did you see in the line? Sorry, I don't know. 你看到那条线了吗？实在抱歉，我确实不清楚
And even here to convey Andy's moment here 这里还要展现安迪当时的心理状态
In his fractured head space too 在他混乱的精神世界里同样如此
And it's sort of like we love this idea of not being able to make out what she's saying 我们特别喜欢这种故意让人听不清台词的处理方式
Like he's not even focusing on this dialogue 正好反映出他心不在焉根本没在听对白
And he's so disconnected from what she's saying 他完全心不在焉，根本没听进去她在说什么
And using that windshield wiper as being the focus 把全部注意力都放在那晃动的雨刷上
And that transition point there and it's feeling like Andy's heart beat a little bit 这个镜头切换的节奏，简直像是安迪的心跳了一下下
And just trying to convey in a way 就是想通过这种方式来传递情感
Like I wonder if it lands with many people 不知道观众能不能体会到这种设计的深意
Where he's like she's allowed Piper to go out into the rain 他说她居然同意Piper冒雨外出
Even though she's promised that she wouldn't 虽然她明明保证过不会这样
Like her muddy shoes are by the door 你看她泥泞的鞋子还摆在门口
Yeah he sees that and he's like you're fucking lying to me 没错他发现了就怒斥：你竟敢骗我
You're lying Michael was asleep under this bed 还撒谎！Michael明明在床下睡着
Oh my god it's so embarrassing 我的天这也太社死了吧
This is the most embarrassing story 这绝对是我最想原地消失的经历
We were recording this and we were recording this really tender moment 我们当时正在拍摄这段特别温馨的画面
And there was like this snoring 结果突然冒出个呼噜声
And I was like oh Sora's snoring 我震惊Sora竟然在打呼
And it was like Sora's snoring like a man 当时Sora打呼噜的声音像个大老爷们似的
Yeah I feel so bad 唉，我特别过意不去
But I was up there a few days straight 但我已经连续熬了好几个通宵了
And it was Michael under the bed 其实是Michael躲在床底下
I was under the bed with the monitor and it was in between setups 我当时带着显示器猫在床底下，正好在两个拍摄场景的转换间隙
And sometimes when you're... it's like it's slow in between setups 有时候拍戏...在两个场景布置之间的等待时间特别漫长
And I was under the bed and it was really dark 我蜷缩在床底下，四周漆黑一片
And I was just looking at the monitor and I had a pillow on me and I just 我盯着监视器发呆，身上搭着个枕头
And I was just like dozed off 结果迷迷糊糊就睡着了
I was like 'God how long is this setup?' 心想着：这场景布置到底还要多久啊？
And I just fell asleep. 结果我就直接睡过去了
And then in the next shot I'm doing this amazing performance and I'm like, 结果切到下一个镜头时，我正在卖力表演，整个人却像在梦游
Everyone's like, 'Who's snoring right now?' 现场大家都在问：'这呼噜声是谁的？'
And I feel bad and everyone thought it was Sora. 我尴尬得要死，所有人都以为是Sora在打呼
Sora's like, 'It's not me.' Sora赶紧澄清：'不是我啊！'
It's coming from under the bed 声音是从床底下传来的
And then Billy goes to look under the bed 接着比利就探头往床底下看
He's like I roll up again. He's like oh 他看到我翻了个身 还'哦'地叫出声
He goes up again. It's so funny 打呼声又出来了 简直笑死
That Michael goes so hard when we're shooting 迈克尔在拍摄时简直拼了老命
Because we edit on set 因为我们直接在搭景就进行剪辑
So when we're shooting we're editing 所以拍摄和剪辑是同步进行的
So Michael goes through these things 所以迈克尔经常要应对这种情况
Sometimes where he stays up for two to three days straight 有时候他得连续熬上两三天
Editing come on a set, editing come on a set 搭景剪了一个又一个
And this was just at the end of one of those three day things 这正好是连续三天赶工的最后阶段
We just crashed out 我们直接累趴下了
And it was like the first time I'd laid down 那好像是我第一次有机会躺下
And I was under the bed to be 结果直接瘫在床底下了
Cause I wanted to be in the room 因为我想要在场参与
And I'd give direction from under the bed 我就在床底下遥控指导
And then yeah I just fell asleep 结果一不小心就睡着了
Olga our incredible stunt performer as well 还有我们超厉害的特技演员Olga
She like also performed the stunt of running over the 她甚至还完成了那个跑酷的特技镜头
And then driving into the car. She's incredible. She's an incredible performer 她开车入镜那段真是绝了。表演太惊艳了，绝对是实力派演员
And she did all the dialogue as well 所有台词也都是她亲自完成的
For the tape and the ritual 包括录音和仪式场景
All this was 这些都是
Look at all this practical 看这些实拍镜头多棒
Look at the look 快看他那个表情
I just don't know 我也说不上来
I love that VHS aesthetic 我太爱这种VHS的复古质感了
It's just so beautiful 这画面实在太美了
We've got all these old childhood videos 这些全都是我们小时候的珍贵影像
That we used to shoot on video 我们以前都是用录像带拍摄的
And there's just something about it 就是有种说不清道不明的韵味
There's an eeriness to that quality 那种画质自带一种诡异的气质
Again all real static 再说一遍，这些白噪音都是真实存在的
All real like going through there and breaking it apart 完全真实的画面，仿佛穿梭其间并将之分解
But not real blood 不过那并非真的鲜血
And not a real resurrection 更算不上什么起死回生
Believe it or not guys 各位爱信不信
But it was just part of those things as well 这些不过是整套把戏的环节之一
Like when we were doing those occult research as well 跟我们搞那些神秘学研究时如出一辙
I dressed up as a character named Trevor 我cos了一个叫特雷弗的角色
So I had this long black wig on 所以我戴了顶超长的黑色假发
And I dressed up in a certain way 我还特意搭配了一身行头
And then I would just talk to these people 就这样跟他们搭上话了
And these occultists and talk about these rituals 跟那些神秘学爱好者大侃特侃各种仪式
And learning about all different summoning spells 学习各种各样的召唤法术
There was one woman that thought that she could turn into a cat 有个女人坚信自己能变成猫
There was another guy that practiced necromancy as well and yeah 还有个家伙同样精通死灵法术
You hear about the toad ritual 你肯定听说过那个蟾蜍仪式
Where they used to sacrifice toads for good luck 他们以前用献祭蟾蜍来祈求好运
Michael tries that one. No, I had no part of that stuff 迈克尔试了那个镜头。不过那部分可跟我没关系
See that's a VFX hole in the glass there 注意看，玻璃上那个破洞是后期特效做的
Well no, it was a practical thing that we shot 不对，那个破碎效果是我们实拍的
But it wasn't broken in that moment 不过拍摄时玻璃其实没破
Because it was shot before that 因为那个镜头是在玻璃碎前拍的
So we had to place that in 所以我们只能把这个镜头保留下来（我猜测碎玻璃是实拍但是通过VFX后期拼接的）
This is one of those big shock scenes 这场戏绝对是个重磅炸弹级的震撼场面
And I've got to give it to Sora 我必须给Sora点赞
She's a champ for taking this 她真是条汉子，能接这一下
She's a champ for taking this punch 能挨这一拳，她真是个狠角色
No, so this was interesting 不，这部分特别有意思
So this shot is a robotic arm 这个镜头是由机械臂完成的
It's an interesting plate shot 这是个很特别的背景板镜头
That you have to be... it had the camera move has to be exact 必须保证...摄影机的运动轨迹分毫不差
So we couldn't risk messing it up 所以我们一点差错都不能出
So this is on a strange robotic arm 这条机械臂相当特别
And the guy had to fly down from 这位师傅专程从外地飞来
Yeah, some different state to bring it in 没错，是从其他州特意运过来的
Cause there was none in South Australia 因为整个南澳州都找不到
There was none in Australia 全澳大利亚都没有存货
Like she's not these two people aren't in the same shot 她们看起来像是处在不同镜头里
So Sora's in a separate shot 索拉是单独拍摄的
And yeah Laura's in a separate shot 没错 罗拉也是单独拍摄的
But doing that with a moving shot 但要用运动镜头来呈现
It's a tricky thing to pull off 这技术难点可不小
But I love the effect of it 不过这种效果真的超赞
You can't it just feels so boom 这种冲击感简直了，砰的一下就来了
So someone's there in that shot pushing Sora's head down and 这个镜头里其实有人在按索拉的头
And then it was like a dummy head for Laura to hit 然后用了个人体模型让罗拉击打
And then this is not a cult to the effects 这可不是在吹嘘特效啊
I don't know if you guys have heard of that 不知道你们是否听说过这种特效方法
No but there's also 没听过，不过还有
There's also Kojo he helped do effects in Stage 23 还有特效师Kojo在Stage 23公司也参与了的制作
Oh yeah there's a bunch of different people on it 没错，参与这个项目的能人可不少
This was sorry I'm just gonna say 这个...抱歉我直说了吧
This shot here that wasn't planned 这个镜头其实不在计划之内
That was literally when we were shooting this scene with the rain there 就是我们在拍这场雨景的时候
It created this circle against the window 雨水在窗户上形成了一个圆形
It looked so fucking weird 看起来真特么诡异
Well yeah and again tied into all the imagery and the motifs in the film 没错，这些都与影片中反复出现的视觉符号和主题元素相呼应
It was so strange that circular imagery was so 圆形视觉符号用得特别巧妙
Get a lens. Yeah, get a lens 拿个镜头，对，拿个镜头
The circular imagery was so prominent in the film 圆形视觉元素在片中特别抢眼
And that was just happening on sight 而这正是眼前发生的事情
So strange. Show him that 好诡异啊 快让他看看这个
The kettle boiling and exploding 水壶即将烧开并炸裂
And it's always something so amazing 每次看到这场面都感觉恨震撼
Only being able to see that demon 唯独能看见那个恶魔
And those reflections within the water and within the glass 还有水面和镜中那些诡异的倒影
And everyone focuses on that 所有人都全神贯注于此
And this was the one so there's always an energy 正因为如此，现场始终充满能量
When you play through a scene in its entirety like a play 当你像演话剧那样完整呈现一个场景时
There's this amazing energy that comes with it 就会迸发出令人惊叹的感染力
So when we're doing the punch in the wall 所以当我们表演砸墙那场戏时
We really wanted to have that build up and explosion 我们确实希望能营造那种层层递进最终爆发的效果
And when you put on a spot it's like 'Okay, action' 当导演喊'好，开拍'的那一刻
Now you're at this peak intensity in emotion 此刻你必须达到情绪爆发的顶点
It's sometimes hard to emulate 这种状态有时候真的很难复现
What would be like playing it from the beginning 要是一镜到底从头演到尾会是什么感觉
So remember we did this scene 记得我们当时拍的这个镜头吧
And we did it in sections 当时是分成几个部分来拍的
And then as long as we could on continuous takes 拍摄时我们尽量长得用了复数的长镜头
But then we did this continuous one 不过我们最终还是采用了这个一镜到底的拍摄
And then we just went with a camera 最后我们直接用单机位完成了拍摄
That went through each room 镜头依次扫过每个房间
And then building up to the punch 然后层层铺垫到出拳瞬间
And then that's the shot that we used 最终那个镜头被采用
When Billy punches the hole next to Laura's face 当比利重拳擦过罗拉脸颊时
It was so you could feel the energy 这样的镜头设计能让观众感受到强烈冲击
It was like this crazy explosion 当时简直像炸开了锅
But only because they were able to lead into it as much as possible 但全靠团队把前期铺垫做到了极致
And Sally loved doing that as well 莎莉特别热衷于这种创作方式
As she would start from the beginning of Laura waking up to lead up to one of these scenes if she could 如果她能做到的话，她会从罗拉醒来的那一刻开始，引出这些场景之一
The more that you can give for the build up the better 拍摄筹备工作投入越多越好
Look at that. So Sally also refused to wear stunt pads 快看，莎莉连特技护垫都不肯戴
and any of that sort of stuff 其他防护装备也一概不用
So her taking those falls for real on the floor even in rehearsals 就连排练时她也是实打实地在地板上摔
We're rehearsing this with no one around 我们排练这段时四周空无一人
Billy's pretending to throw down 比利作势要推倒她
And she's diving falling onto the ground 她一个猛子扎下去摔在地上
But Sally, chill, Sally 哎哟莎莉你淡定点啊莎莉
She was every time you're rolling 你每次拍摄她都这样
Even on rehearsal she's in a hundred percent. It's the best 她连彩排都是全情投入，简直绝了
And so to put the punch in the wall 然后就是那个挥拳砸墙的镜头
Cause we had a couple of replaceable parts of that wall 我们专门做了几块可替换的墙面组件
That wall came out and then we're able to slide in another one 砸坏的面板一拆，新组件就能秒换上去
Like his yeah so awesome 就像他说的，哇靠太带劲了
The construction team made that 施工团队打造了这个装置
This interesting part of the wall that can slide out 这堵墙设计了可滑出的精巧结构
And another one can slot in 另一块组件可以严丝合缝地嵌入
We have to move Junkman for that scene 为了拍摄那个镜头，我们调整了Junkman的位置
We didn't want it to get Pom Pom the dog 我们必须确保装置不会伤到小狗Pom Pom
We didn't want him getting damaged 我们可舍不得他受半点伤
You can feel this between them 这种情感在他们之间呼之欲出
And again this is just one of those moments 这不过是众多精彩片段中的一个
That you're sort of leading up to with everybody 这可是大家一路都在铺垫的重要时刻
With Sora and like playing through all those scenes 伴随索拉经历所有经典场景
Just give all these scenes so much gravity and weight 这些场景被赋予了极强的戏剧张力和厚重感
And it just allows the actors to build up to it 这样的处理给演员们留足了酝酿情绪的空间
And really feel these moments 让演员能够真情实感地沉浸在这些瞬间里
And even that part Laura faking to scream 还有罗拉佯装尖叫那段戏
Because she knows that Piper can hear it 因为她心知肚明派珀能听到
Yeah can they Yeah yeah yeah 对对对 他们确实可以
And like so she knows and she's like 所以她心知肚明 然后表现出一副
There's almost like a grin on her face watching it 她看着的时候脸上都快要绷不住笑了
Like so that's all those subtle things 这些全都是她精心设计的微妙细节
That she's doing to pick Andy apart 这些都是她用来瓦解安迪的心理战术
Yeah push him to the edge 没错 把他逼入绝境
This is also one of those weird coincidences 这又是一个离奇的巧合
The way this mirror fell and got hit by the tire 镜子这样掉下来还被轮胎砸中
I don't know I always find that odd 说不清 总觉得这事特别蹊跷
Just me Michael? Do you find that quite magical 就我一个人觉得神奇吗 迈克尔？你不觉得这很玄乎吗
This is another of those moments where it started raining for real outside the house 这又是一个屋外真正开始下雨的时刻
But quickly get a lens on it ! 快点拿镜头！
It's just one of those moments 这只是其中一个时刻
Cause I try and capture as much realism as possible 因为我始终坚持最大限度还原真实的创作理念
This is interesting. This is a pickup shot 有趣的是，这个镜头实际是后期补拍的
So this is one day and then there's a pickup shot of going in on Oliver and Andy's face 这是一天，我们补拍了一个对奥利弗和安迪的面部推近特写
Cause we really wanted to mark that realization 因为我们特别想突出角色这个顿悟的关键瞬间
So here is a completely different. This was like months after 现在看到的这个镜头完全是另一次补拍，距离主场景拍摄已经过去好几个月了
And this shot caused the way that we shot it we just didn't we forgot 这个镜头的拍摄方式当时出了些问题，后来我们发现效果不太理想
Like we didn't like the way that we shot it and the time that we had to get it 无论是拍摄手法还是当时的赶工状态，最终呈现的效果都不尽如人意
We didn't really have this thing of like going in and him really noticing that it was Connor bird 我们没有用推进的拍摄技法让比利意识到奥利弗就是Connor Bird
So it was like one of those shots that we had to go back 因此这个镜头我们不得不返工重拍
And reshoot to really hit the nail on the head of it 反复调整才最终达到了理想效果
I'll be good to let off some steam. Come on 发泄一下情绪对你有帮助。来吧
This was at the end of the day trying to get this 这是当天收工前费了九牛二虎之力才搞定的
Sacco on the wall there. Noel Sacco, everyone 各位，墙上那个就是Noel Sacco
Laura told me you hit your sister in the head 罗拉告诉我你打了你妹妹的脑袋
So this was shot on the same day as that opening scene at the DCP 这段和DCP的开场戏是同一天拍摄的
DCP - Department of Child Protection DCP指的就是儿童保护局
Would you say your grief over dad is getting better or worse 你对老爸的思念是减轻了还是加重了
It's not about my fucking dad 这特么跟我老爸没关系
Yeah Laura's hitting certain things and painting a certain image for Wendy 没错，罗拉说了一些特定的事，给温迪心里种下了某种印象
They've got a 他们之间存在着
A sense of history together because they've worked together for 20-25 years 一种共同的历史渊源，毕竟他们共事已有二三十年了
So she knows how to manipulate things into favor for or against Andy 所以她很懂得运用手腕操控局势，能让安迪占尽优势或陷入不利
So we're about to come into our very vicious 接下来就要上演全片最凶残的桥段了
This is probably the most violent scene in the movie which is this scene right here 这应该是全片最血腥的镜头，就是现在这段
This so Jonah was standing by the fridge here and there was the 当时Jonah正站在冰箱这边，而
Props assistant standing on a bench throwing all that stuff on the ground 道具师站在台子上把那些道具哗啦啦全摔在地上
And Jonah's holding the milk and then he goes kunk 乔纳正拿着牛奶罐，突然'哐当'一声响
And then you see here he goes and pulls the see that there was a 接着镜头里他走过去拽那个装置
This props made this awesome thing where he could 道具组设计了这个超赞的机关装置
Like grab it and bite off this section of the milk so it did that 能让他一把抓住咬掉牛奶罐的某部分
Yeah yeah but it's like a different person throwing all that stuff onto the ground 没错但那些道具乱飞的样子就像换人在扔
But yeah it's like how to execute all these things while on set and stuff 不过说到底，关键还是在于实拍时如何把这些细节都落实到位
So I was like finding a way to how can we practically eat a table 于是我就开始研究，要怎么实拍才能让吃桌子这个镜头呈现得真实自然
How can we practically eat his hand 还有怎么实拍吃手的镜头才能达到以假乱真的效果
How can we practically do the knife bite and stuff 包括咬刀特技这些细节要怎么实拍才足够逼真
So even like small things like bite in the carton 就连咬纸盒这样看似简单的镜头细节
I devised a way to do that 我琢磨出了一个解决方案
We love the props master and that whole team 我们特别欣赏道具组和整个团队
Laura could heal from these wounds 罗拉本可以治愈这些创伤
She could heal from this grief 她本可以走出这份哀伤
And so towards the end of the film, deciding to keep the wounds open and succumb to it 所以到影片结尾时，我们决定让伤痕继续流血，任其吞噬
There's Oliver as well because he's consumed a little bit of Laura. He's mimicking her here 这里还有奥利弗，因为他吸收了罗拉的部分特质。此刻他正在模仿她的行为
And it was interesting to try and find his cues or his sound design 寻找表现他性格的线索或者声效特别有意思
That led into his character 这些设计完美塑造了他的角色特征
So those throat pops and clicks 比如那些喉咙发出的爆破音和咔嗒声
That's her nephew's name, the redhead kid 这是她侄子的名字，那个红发孩子
Yeah but he doesn't have redhead. It's him 对，不过他没有红头发。就是他
And then it was one of those things like so for the table 然后就像是为餐桌准备的某种特殊道具
To make it kind of almost fun for Jonah to eat 为了让乔纳吃得有趣些
So just because it was like balsa wood but in the middle was chocolate 因为这就像轻木材质，但中间夹着巧克力
So he could eat it and it would be kind of nice in a way 这样他既能吃，味道也还不错
Like you want to make it as comfortable as possible to do this stuff 你肯定希望这类场景能拍得尽可能舒适自然
So you see him eating there's like chocolate in the middle and then he's eating. It looks so horrific 镜头里他在吃着中间夹着巧克力状物体的东西，那吃相简直令人毛骨悚然
But then after we called cut he's still chewing on the table 可导演喊停后，他居然还在津津有味地啃着那张桌子
He's like it's pretty good 他居然一脸享受地说：'味道还挺不错的'
This is a really nice table but it looks nasty 这张桌子本身挺精致的，可被这么一折腾就变得惨不忍睹了
And that's one of the things Danny was doing with the sound people like actually biting tables 这正是丹尼和音效团队的合作创意——实打实地咬桌子录制音效
Danny was biting tables and trying to make it sound as real as possible 丹尼亲自上阵咬桌子，只为呈现最真实的音效质感
We bought like a whole bunch of like this different wood 我们专门采购了各类不同材质的木材
We filled up close shots just chewing on wood 单是特写镜头，我们就拍摄了大量啃咬木头的素材
Like the sound is just so 最后出来的音效效果简直绝了
Yeah, that's a lot of the things 没错，这当中有太多讲究
Like the visual and the sound are so important in sequences like this 这类连续叙事单元里视听效果真是至关重要
Yeah, it helps sell that reality 对，这样才能让观众身临其境
Oh my gosh this is just so vicious 我的天这也太残暴了吧
There's one of those things that you write and you don't think it's going to be that horrific 有些情节写的时候真没想到会这么毛骨悚然
And then when you start shooting it like God damn 等真正开拍时简直绝了
And that was an amazing prosthetic there where he could pull off like a string off his arm 那个假肢特效绝了，居然能像抽丝般从手臂上扯下来
And this extra bite we see we kept this second bite in there 这个加拍的咬伤镜头我们最终保留了
Because we were like it might get cut like the rating might be too much 当时就觉得这段可能会被剪，可能评级太过了
And they'll probably ask us to remove it and then they didn't 本以为会被要求删掉，结果居然保留了
So there was an extra bite in there everyone an extra bit of gore 所以我们在这里多加了一口，多了一点血腥
Like we'll remove that if they need to if they're going to 如果需要的话，我们可以把这部分剪掉
Yeah well like they'll probably get us to cut this stuff so we'll like put a little bit extra in 是啊，他们很可能会要求我们删减这些内容，所以我们特意多拍了一些
But they were like yeah you can keep it like yeah 不过他们最后同意可以保留这部分
Alright we're all in then 好，那就这么定了
And this is one of my favourite scenes in the whole film as well 这一幕同样是我在全片中最爱的镜头
So this part here this music 注意听这里的配乐部分
That camera on the outside oh the music 看那个外景镜头！天这段配乐
That was one of the 这段堪称
This was part of the demo that Cornell did 这段旋律来自Cornell当初的demo小样
That circular sound and that whole thing, this circular sound 那种环绕音效和整体氛围，这种环状的声场设计
It helped with this scene like shooting the scene 这种音效设计对这场戏的拍摄帮助很大
With that music in mind as well 在拍摄时也始终贯彻着音乐构思
Yeah, the music in mind to really connect with it 通过音乐构思实现情感共鸣
There's a camera on the outside there 现场外缘还架设了一台摄像机
So there's a bunch of different operators here trying to execute this scene in this shot 现场有多位操作员正在协同完成这个镜头的拍摄
There are different people that are on the phone 有工作人员在负责电话连线部分
There's one person doing the movement on this rig that we created 专人负责操控我们搭建的这个运动装置
And then another person that's controlling the camera head so it doesn't tip completely 另有专人操控云台以确保摄像机平稳
And then someone else doing the focus 还有跟焦员负责焦点控制
And then someone doing the lift like the up and down of it 当时有人在操作升降装置，上下运动
It was just so strange 那场面诡异极了
Trying to coordinate everyone in that with Sally as well 要协调所有人配合Sally的动作
It was really difficult 简直难如登天
But then when we got it it looks incredible 但当我们成功时，那画面简直绝了
Take after take trying to execute this thing 我们反复拍摄，就为了完美呈现这个场景
It's so amazing when all the departments come together there 各部门配合无间的场景简直绝了
Again hats off to our amazing focus pullers 必须再次为我们神乎其技的跟焦员点赞
There's this one amazing focus puller Charlie that was on Talk to Me as well 我们有个超神的跟焦员查理，之前在《回应我》剧组也合作过
Like when we go really wild on the scene and the camera starts flying around the place 有时候我们拍摄特别疯，摄影机满场飞的时候
Say like with the montage scene with them getting drunk 就像那段他们喝得烂醉的蒙太奇镜头
Or when Laura's cleaning up the house 还有罗拉收拾屋子的那些镜头
It's like this mission to try and keep things in focus 这感觉就像在完成一项对焦挑战
But he always always pulls it off 但他每次都能完美驾驭
Because there's no autofocus on these cameras unfortunately 可惜这些相机都没有自动对焦
There's not. And then tying it to this 其实并非如此。说到这里
This is another thing that's coming up, this goalball scene 接下来要展现的是盲人门球的场景
Which is like a sport that vision impaired and blind people play 这项运动专为视障人士设计
And it's a really painfully physical sport 这项运动的对抗性极强
It's like the most painful thing 堪称最具挑战性的运动项目
So you put these, you're blindfolded and you've got to hear the sound of the ball approaching 这个游戏需要蒙上眼睛，通过听球的声音来判断来球方向
You have to block the ball and then try to throw it as well into the ball 你要先挡下球，再尝试把球投回去
Yeah there's like a little bell in it so you can hear it coming. It's a painful thing 球里装有铃铛方便听声辨位，不过这游戏玩起来还挺疼的
the ball will hit you in the face or hit you in the stomach 玩的时候很容易被球砸中脸部或腹部
It's like yeah 基本就是这么个玩法
Yeah that's why this scene was important for the Piper's perspective 没错，这个场景对展现派珀的视角至关重要
Reintroducing it and showing how she navigates the world 不仅重新引入这个视角，还展现她如何应对这个世界
Yeah but also handballing the narrative off to her 对啊，同时也是把故事接力棒传到了她手里
Like Andy's about to pass away and die here 因为安迪的生命即将在这里走到尽头
And she's about to take hold of the story 而她即将接棒成为故事的主角
And this is sort of like a way to hand ball off to Piper 这段场景像是把接力棒交给了Piper
And yeah, really like I love all the sound design in the scene 说真的，这个场景的音效设计简直绝了
Billy's performance is so incredible too Billy的演技简直炸裂
Like going through this trauma and tying the two together 在经历创伤的同时，还将两条线索完美串联
Because I didn't want you to know how ugly the world was 因为我不愿让你见识这个世界的丑恶面目
Yeah, see, he's being honest with her now 你瞧，他现在终于对她敞开心扉了
But she ain't listening, everybody 可她却没在听啊朋友们
I hit you 我打了你
This is an amazing performance 这场表演简直绝了
Yeah and this is like Andy Billy's awesome 没错 Andy Billy这段简直封神
Yeah and it's like finding spots you can shoot that sort of stuff 关于物色适合拍摄这类场景的取景点
Like you're in the middle of the day and it's not raining there as well 比方说大白天的时候，那边偏偏又没下雨
So there's a rain rig attached to the car 所以车上其实装了套人工降雨系统
And then finding valleys and places 接着还得找些山谷之类的地形
that have enough cover from shade from the trees 要有足够茂密的树荫遮挡
that are blocking out the sun that you can create a sense 这些遮天蔽日的装置能营造出
that it's raining for real 以假乱真的下雨效果
That it's overcast 阴天的效果
Also Billy's not Australian. He's British. Yeah, how crazy. 还有比利其实不是澳洲人，而是英国佬。想不到吧！
He's doing an accent as well. 他连口音都是装出来的
Yeah, he's like yeah, how awesome. 对啊，他那反应简直了，绝了！
Billy, 17 years old, coming in doing this like crazy. 17岁的比利，一上来就这么炸裂
Like such a complicated character. 这么复杂的一个角色
And pulling it off convincingly with the Australian accent 还用地道的澳洲口音完美驾驭
So talented 太有才了！
Again just so in awe of our cast. Great 再次被我们演员们的表现所折服，真是太出色了
And so this scene here we wanted to have the cleaning 这个场景我们特意安排了清洁环节
And it was right at the end of the day 而且刚好赶在当天收工前
So it lined up where we had what was it 10 minutes or something 所以时间安排上我们只剩大概10分钟
To shoot this scene here 来赶拍这个镜头
And we're like alright Sally Sally's Wendy is coming to the house 我们无奈妥协：莎莉啊 你闺蜜温迪马上要登门拜访了
You have 10 minutes to clean 限你十分钟完成大扫除
And that's exactly when we had to wrap 偏偏在这个节骨眼上我们被迫停工
And the entire house was trash 整个屋子乱得跟垃圾场似的
And the whole house was trash 满屋子乱得根本没法落脚
You have to figure out how to clean it 你得琢磨个办法把这儿收拾干净
And she's just - we're just following her literally 她就这么自顾自走着 - 我们完全是在被她牵着鼻子走
Yeah the camera's racing around 对 镜头简直跟飙车似的来回穿梭
And then by the end of it we ran out of time 结果拍到后面时间不够用了
We're like alright cut she's like no 我们喊卡她还不乐意
She's like no and she's vacuuming 她却说不要 还一边吸着地
I'm like cut no we can't afford it all the time Sally 我当场拒绝：不行 咱们可经不起这么折腾 莎莉
She's like no the house isn't clean yet 她却坚持说：不行 屋里还没收拾利索呢
How's my ball taste? 我的球好吃吗？
That was a really fun scene 这场戏很有意思
And this is when she's turning a blind eye 这正是她（罗拉）选择视而不见的时刻
Nonono, there's that thing of this part of Laura's character 不不不，这是罗拉性格中的一个鲜明特征
Where she likes to sort of calm her nerves 她总喜欢用这种方式平复心情
She's blasting this certain music 她会把某首音乐放得震天响
She's doing it when they first come to the house and everything 他们刚搬进这栋房子时，她就这么做了
This is like that inversion of the music that she's playing at the beginning of the house as well 这就像她在房子开头播放的音乐的反转一样
Like Yoko Ono, it's such a cool song 颇有小野洋子的风格，这首歌实在太酷了
It's a spiral like she's 音乐如螺旋般盘旋上升，仿佛她
And she's completely lost her sanity 此刻她已完全陷入疯狂
And that's a thing with 这其实反映了她一个特点
Every time she's nervous or something 每次她一紧张
She's not comfortable with she plays this loud music 感到不自在时就会把音乐开得震天响
So that was a big thing with her character 所以这个细节很能体现她的性格特征
Yeah I don't know 嗯...我也说不好
This was filmed on the weekend 这段是周末赶工拍摄的
This was a reduced crew. Reduced crew 当时人手紧张。真的特别缺人
Yeah well let's just really strip it back 没错，咱们就把配置精简到极致
And try to get these shots 想方设法把这些镜头拿下
Yeah, but not. We didn't have the full crew because this was so much 是啊，但当时人手实在不够，场面太大了
It was like one of those things where I was like 当时的情况就是——我心想
We know that it's going to be overcast on that day 我们早就知道当天会是个阴天
We know there's a lot of raining scenes and that 而且雨天戏份还特别多
So I was like let's try and get there and yeah 所以我就提议趁阴天赶紧拍
Shoot while it's overcast like look at that 你看这天气多适合拍摄
Yeah like you can tell I can see all the clouds 没错 你瞧我连天上的云朵都看得一清二楚
And everything up there it's such a thing when you're shooting with rain 还有空中的景象 雨中拍摄时那种氛围真是绝了
Rain machines are on there but like we knew it was going to be overcast 虽然人工降雨机在那 但我们早就料到会是阴天
It helped sail the storm 这使暴风雨场景更带感了
And there was so much to shoot 而且要拍的镜头实在太多了
And it was a bit 当时氛围有些微妙
And so this is one of the scenes that we shot them inside the house speaking 我们拍了他们在房子里面说话的场景
Wendy seeing the hole in the wall 温迪发现墙上的破洞
And seeing bits of the house that's trashed 这个镜头还巧妙呈现了房屋各处受损的细节
And Laura handballing off the oh this is Andy 包括罗拉把锅甩给安迪
He lost his mind but it felt strange once you're being with Andy 他当时神志不清，但奇怪的是和安迪共处时
In that moment with him going outside the house 就在他在房子外面走的一刻
And sneaking up cutting to their perspective which we do here 然后悄悄切换成罗拉和温迪——这正是此处的处理方式
But earlier didn't feel right so it was like oh let's stick with Andy 但之前的处理总觉得欠妥，最后决定'还是锁定安迪的视角吧'
For as long as possible but then this 能撑多久是多久，直到这个转场
We like this ping pong with this like this is 我们超爱这种你来我往的节奏
You're waiting you're waiting for the yeah you're waiting for the 你就是在等那个瞬间 对 你就是在等
You're waiting for the moment she gets found out 你屏息等着她东窗事发的那一刻
And you know what's coming and it's like 你早知结局如何 那种感觉就像
There's always the best. The best thing with editing and passes 这才是最绝的 剪辑转场的精髓所在
And stuff is controlling the scene and really shaping the scene 各种元素在主导着整个场景，并逐渐形成场景的雏形
And like the first cut of any film you're like 就像所有电影初剪版本给人的感觉一样
Like you hate it so much and you're so embarrassed by it 怎么看怎么别扭，简直不忍直视
But it's like this necessary first step to put things together 但这就像拼图的第一步，虽然粗糙但必不可少
Start to shape it and then it's pass after pass after pass after pass 慢慢打磨成型，然后就是反反复复地精雕细琢
It's like how many times we went through all of these scenes 这些场景我们反复打磨的次数简直数不清了
And yeah again we love collaborating with our editor Jeff Lamb and stuff 必须说我们超爱和剪辑师杰夫·兰姆团队的合作
And he's so patient and because Mike was bringing edits into the place 他特别有耐心 因为迈克总带着修改意见去剪辑室
I'm bringing edits into the place he's editing as well 我也经常带着新想法去他工作的剪辑室
And it's this amazing collaboration with everyone 这种全员参与的创作模式简直太棒了
Even Samantha Jennings, our producer, comes in 连我们的制片萨曼莎·詹宁斯都亲自上阵了
And it's just like I love having all those people around 我就特别享受这种众人拾柴的氛围
And just like doing passes and passes 反复打磨精益求精
And it was such a complicated edit. This was such a hard 这段剪辑复杂得令人发指
It was such a hard edit 简直是地狱级难度
Which you I don't know 具体是哪个版本我也说不上来
'Talk To Me' was so much more I guess straightforward of how we'd edit it 我想，《回应我》的剪辑方式要直接得多
This one was so interesting 而本部电影则特别耐人寻味
It was so much more complicated 处理手法要复杂得多
For so many different reasons 出于种种不同的考量
Having that team and that support around really helped 有这样的团队和他们的鼎力相助确实帮了大忙
This was every single take 这是每一个拍摄镜次
Sally like pushing it pushing it pushing it and entering this psychosis 莎莉不断逼迫自己，陷入这种癫狂状态
And like you really really I don't know 那种感觉真的...我实在难以形容
It's like a desperation with her character here 这个场景展现了她角色近乎绝望的挣扎
When she's trying to like she knows that 她其实心知肚明却还在强装镇定
Like this is all about to fall apart 她深知这一切即将彻底崩塌
And she's like at this complete height of this intensity 而她的表演张力此刻已达巅峰状态
I love her performance in this film 她在这部影片里的表演堪称一绝
And this is this is 就这样了
There's no more hiding 再也无法隐藏了
And she knows she's in the film 而且她很清楚自己正在被拍摄
It's like I push it further further 感觉像是我在不断地突破界限
And like every single time every take that she would do 她每一次拍摄，每一个镜头都是如此
Like it just got stronger and bigger 感觉这东西气势越来越强大了
And I oh man I love Sally in the scene 说真的我太爱这个场景的莎莉了
Yeah again so many good takes in this scene 确实这个场景的每个表演都堪称经典
And like this was we did a take where 这场戏我们拍过一条特别惊艳的版本
See like this was she's holding the sleeve 注意看她紧抓衣袖的这个细节
Do not let go of the sleeve 不放开那个衣袖
And Wendy try and get it on 温迪想方设法要穿上去
Yeah you have to push her off Sally 对 你得把莎莉推开
And she literally couldn't get Sally's hand off her 可她死活挣脱不开莎莉的手
And then there was a part where they 后来还有一段戏是
They're rocking back and forth 他们正来回摇晃着身体
And they both fell over. Yeah 结果两人都摔了个四脚朝天
They collapsed and then they kept performing 虽然摔倒了但马上就爬起来继续演出
Which I love about them as well 这也是我特别欣赏他们的一点
Yeah, they both kept performing 没错，两人都坚持完成了演出
But they fell to the ground 可惜都摔在地上了
Unfortunately it didn't work in the edit 可惜最后剪辑时这段没派上用场
Yeah, but Sally-Anne also was scared of Sally in this scene 没错，其实萨莉·安(扮演温迪的演员)害怕这场戏里的萨莉
The crew was scared of Sally 整个剧组都被萨莉吓到了
Like Sally was in such a state for this scene 因为萨莉在这场戏里实在太吓人了
It was so incredible. It was scary 那种感觉既震撼人心又令人心悸
Giving her notes between shots 在拍摄间隙给她表演建议
Because she was at this big heightened state 因为她当时完全沉浸在角色情绪里
It was amazing. Again, like hats off to performances 实在令人叹服。不得不为这样的表演脱帽致敬
Where it's like resetting it 就像是表演状态的重置归零
But they have to like step back to step one again 他们只能重新回到起点
As in like she's got the mask on. She's pretending everything's fine 她就像戴着面具般强颜欢笑
And then so she like ends at such a peak 结果却在巅峰时刻戛然而止
And then to reset it again 又要重头再来
Give her a moment to get back to go 给她点时间调整状态
Yeah exactly. She had that thing 对极了，她身上有种特质
And we did these. There's this transformation that 我们做了这样一个转变
At the beginning it's everything's okay 故事开场时看似风平浪静
To being found out and to then completely losing it 再到东窗事发直至彻底崩溃
Yeah and it's like yeah oh here we go as well 没错，这种转变过程就像'好戏终于开场了'
So this is again to the actors 这段又是对演员们的指示
Allowing us to run them over 让我们开车从他们身上碾过去
Boom boom boom boom boom come on shout out Judd Wilde 砰砰砰砰砰来啊给Judd Wilde打call
Me and Judd were like let's put a camera in that second car 我和Judd当时就想：咱们在第二辆车里装个摄像机吧
So that window can smash and this moment of silence 这样车窗就能撞碎，制造这个寂静的瞬间
And she's just in this darkness or in this shadow this oh my God 她就这么置身于黑暗阴影之中——天呐
She's so awesome it's amazing and yeah big hats off to Billy as well 她的表演绝了！比利也值得脱帽致敬
For this next scene take after take of pushing his face 接下来这场戏需要反复拍摄他被摁住脸的镜头
And drowning him inside the puddle. So that was a merge 按在水坑里窒息——这其实是两条素材合成的
And the stillness. The stillness as well of like stripping out the music in this moment 那种凝滞感也很绝——特别是此刻抽离配乐的处理
And having it be about the rain. Having it be about his breathing 这段情节巧妙通过雨声营造氛围，同时凸显他艰难的呼吸
And trying to like convey the sound. Like not only is he swallowing water in this moment 导演还着力呈现那种窒息声——此刻他不仅是在呛水
But his lungs are filling up with blood. And it's like that music 他的肺部还在不断渗血，这些声音与配乐完美交织
And that build gets just so big and then to that sudden now juxtaposition to this 音乐情绪层层递进直至高潮，却突然急转直下归于沉寂
Where it's silent and it's just the rain. Just felt so strong 万籁俱寂中只剩雨声淅沥，这种强烈的反差极具戏剧张力
Again props to all of those departments and all of those teams 再次向所有参与部门和团队致敬
And Billy letting us drown him all these times. And like subtle subtle subtle VFX here 还要感谢比利配合我们完成多次溺水戏份。这些细节处理极其精妙的视觉特效
Where it's like even like his eye 甚至细致到他的眼球
Like making sure his eye wasn't because it was pretty white to begin with 眼镜开始是比较白的
Just to give it that bloodshot feel and everything and keep it open 就是要营造那种血丝密布的效果，同时保持睁眼状态
Keep it open as well as it's pushing down like subtle small VFX things 保持眼镜睁开，又要通过精细的视觉特效营造下压氛围
Just to help elevate and bring the scenes to life I love that 这些特效既能提升整体质感，又能为场景注入生命力，我特别欣赏这种处理
Just little things that help heighten things help sell the violence and the gravity of the scene as well 正是这些细微处理放大了效果，让暴力场面的冲击感和真实感更为强烈
Oh my gosh. And that next scene. It's so weird this next scene 我的天！接下来这个场景简直诡异得让人发毛
When they're coming up towards the gym. How many extras you need to fill a space like that 他们走向体育馆那场戏，得动用多少群演才能把那么大的场地塞得满满当当
And having so many friends, so many family coming at 5 am in the morning 这么多亲朋好友凌晨5点就赶来片场
To come and help us execute these scenes. I love working with extras 特地赶来协助我们完成这些场景的拍摄。我特别享受和群演合作的过程
And actors and help them fill out spaces. Help build that reality 与专业演员配合，共同营造真实的场景氛围
And even our extras coordinator Mel, it's art in itself to help find people 就连我们的群演统筹梅尔也功不可没，物色合适人选本身就是门学问
She said I want to have these. There's an old ping pong tournament happening between the elderly as well. 她说需要这样的群演，因为体育馆里正好有个老年人乒乓球比赛
So she sourced these elderly people 为此她专门邀请了这些老年朋友
To have a ping pong tournament at the top of the front of the gym 在体育馆正门举办乒乓球赛事
There they are there 看啊他们都在那儿
And it's so interesting with the extras like 群众演员们的表演特别有看点
So they can't be bouncing balls in the background and stuff. So they've got to pretend to be 因为规定不能在背景里实拍打球，所以他们只能做出打球的动作
See they can't. They can‘t have a bouncer on the ground because it will interfere with the sound and things 他们不能把球掉地上，那样会干扰音响效果和其他设备
So they've got to do these actions that look like they're active but they're not really 所以他们只能做些看起来在互动但实际上很假的动作
It's so interesting. Well it's even crazier 太有意思了。简直离谱
And like everyone having to pretend to talk 所有人都得装模作样地聊天
or pretend to do things 或是假装在忙活
And that's Bree Gee, that's the actual drama coach for Sora 这位是Bree Gee，担任Sora的专属表演指导老师
Yeah, having Sora be as comfortable as possible 没错，我们力求让Sora处于最放松的状态
like her parents there as well and stuff 比如安排她父母全程陪同之类的
And we had an access coordinator on set 我们还专门配备了无障碍协调员在现场
for certain moments and certain scenes 针对特殊戏份和特定拍摄需求
to get her comfortable for certain environments 帮助她适应特定场景
And then just like having her coach 就像安排专属指导
that helps support her through some of those grueling scenes as well 这样也能帮她攻克那些高难度戏份
So you've got to go on to a certain headspace 你得先进入特定状态
And help them get there 然后引导演员进入状态
And then break out of it at the end of it 最后在结束时走出这个状态
This scene as well is one of those shots 这一幕同样属于那些标志性镜头
Where we just left the crew and we were driving around 当时我们撇下剧组人员，自己驾车转悠
So Billy was manning the water pump 比利当时负责掌管水泵
I would like hanging out of the window 我当时可喜欢把身子探出窗外了 Getting the water on the windows there 当时我们在车窗上洒水
And then McCluskey's like sitting there recording it 而麦克拉斯基就坐在一旁全程跟拍
Our focus pulls in the back of the car 我们当时把焦点对准了车尾
Was just us five driving around in the street 就我们五个人开车在街上转悠取景
Like capturing stuff and I was like it's overcast quickly let's shoot 我们正在抢拍素材，我一看天气转阴就赶紧喊开拍
It's overcast and you got like it was like 当时天色阴沉沉的，整个氛围就像
We couldn't wait for the entire crew in that moment 那时候我们实在等不及全组人员到位
It was about like breaking away 当时就想赶紧脱离常规拍摄
And quickly like capture these shots 迅速抓拍下这些画面
Right on this shot I loved 这个画面简直太棒了
The reveal of the blood on the ground returns 地面上血迹的镜头再次出现
And yeah Piper turns around and is like watch out 接着Piper突然转身，你禁不住想大喊'当心'
This was Sally Anne's final day here 这是Sally Anne生命的最后时刻
This is actually her with this prosthetics on her face to have like the mashed face 她脸上戴着特效化妆假体，呈现出被碾压过的恐怖面容
And she did like a rap speech after, and her face looked like this 接着她来了段即兴说唱式的发言，她当时的表情可精彩了
And she's like I'd like to thank everyone for coming out 接着她还来了句：'感谢各位捧场'
This is going to be a great movie even if it's shit 就算拍成翔，这也会是部神作
It's going to be great 绝对会炸裂好看
There's something really special about this movie 这部影片有着独特的魅力
I mean even if it's shit you know we had a great time 就算片子很烂 我们也玩得很开心
Yeah and her face like I heard her in this speech in her face like that 对啊 她那表情 我在讲话现场看到的 就是那个样子
It was hilarious 简直笑死个人
Yeah it's always so important 没错 这个特别关键
As all of crew members and with casters 让全体剧组成员和演员们
To have everyone be as comfortable as possible with each other 让大家相处得轻松自在
And allow the space for these creative energies 给创作灵感留出发挥空间
So to allow the space 就是要营造这样的创作空间
For actors to be able to perform 让演员们尽情发挥演技
And not intrude on the performances 还要注意不能干扰演员的发挥
People have to be comfortable with each other 大家需要相处融洽
And has to be a safe space 还得确保环境安全无虞
This was the first time Oliver's in that stage of makeup Jonah 这是奥利弗第一次体验乔纳这种程度的特效化妆
Yeah like he's really pushing it out there as well 没错，他也真是豁出去了
And like that prosthetic like that stomach that he's got 跟他那个仿真胃假体一样
Like Larry like made sure that it had some weight behind it as well 拉里特别要求这个道具要有真实重量
So that it didn't feel like there was this weightless thing 这样就不会显得很假很轻
That he's sort of carrying around 就像真实的人体器官一样
Like yeah so much attention to detail 确实 每个细节都精益求精
Yeah he's consumed at such a quick rate 没错，他适应得特别快
Yeah and then it's so funny when you Jonah's like this 对啊，而且Jonah这个样子特别搞笑
So once he's in the prosthetics because it takes a while to put on 所以他一旦化好特效妆 - 因为这要花不少时间
And then we get him and he's got to stay in them like in between takes obviously 然后他就得一直带着妆 显然在镜头间隙也得保持这样
And you're having a conversation with him 然后你还得跟他聊天
And he's like talking normally but he's dressed up like this creature from another role 他说话的样子很正常，却穿着一身其他角色的怪物造型
It's always a weird thing when you're talking to actors 和演员聊天总是有点怪怪的
And they're dressed up in a yeah that extreme way 特别是当他们打扮得那么夸张的时候
Oh my God this whole bathroom scene is so 天呐这段浴室戏简直绝了
They did such a good job 他们演得太到位了
Positioning that towards the end of the shoot 把这些戏份安排在临近杀青时
Where she really felt that bond with Billy 她真正感受到与比利之间的联系
And really felt that bond between their characters 她真正感受到他们扮演的角色之间的联系
And then to lose him like Sora blew our socks off with all of these scenes 而随后Sora失去了比利，索拉在这些场景的表演让我们大为惊叹。
Yeah, there's one of them feels like a holding breath moment here 没错，这里有个演技爆棚、令人窒息的精彩瞬间
Yeah, we're just so proud of Sora 真的，我们都为Sora感到特别骄傲
Because like at the beginning of production she was so nervous 要知道在制作初期她可是紧张得不得了
Of like being able to cry on camera or singing on camera or dancing on camera 比如要在镜头前流泪、唱歌或是跳舞这些
She had some walls up and she was really nervous about doing some of these scenes 当时她心里有很多顾虑，对演这些场景特别忐忑
And by the end of the production she was able to let herself go 但到了制作后期，她已经完全能够收放自如了
And be openly crying. And at the wrap party she's dancing and singing in front of everyone 甚至当众泪流满面。到了杀青派对时，她又能毫无顾忌地在众人面前载歌载舞
She's incredible 她简直让人叹为观止
Literally the transformation from beginning of the shoot till end is fucking unreal 从拍摄开始到结束的转变简直太不真实了
Yeah it was so cool if she did another film 要是她能再拍新片就太给力了
I don't know, she really enjoyed herself 说不准，但她确实玩得很尽兴
Anything she puts her mind to, she succeeds at an amazing rate 但凡她认准的事，总能以惊人效率搞定
And she's so intelligent, just the way that she holds herself 她聪慧过人，举手投足间尽显优雅气质
The way that she communicates and talks, and how knowledgeable she is. Yeah, she's awesome 她谈吐不凡，学识渊博，实在令人赞叹
Again, this is another shot that we had 这个镜头我们后来又补拍了一次
That we went back and shot twice just because there was so much mud and blood on his face 因为他满脸都是泥浆血迹，我们不得不返工重拍
Like he lost the shape of his face 整张脸都被泥血糊得面目全非
And so it was about like that sort of lost the tenderness there as well 这样一来，连那份温情也消失殆尽了
Like we wanted to see a bit more of Billy 我们当时特别想给比利加戏
So we went back and reshot that 于是我们就返场补拍了那段
Little reshootings 就是些小修小补
So sad 真叫人遗憾啊
Yeah she's wicked and this is one of those things that when Sally was so in this headspace 这正是莎莉完全沉浸在角色状态时的表现
Like she looks ghastly and pale and ill 她看起来面色惨白如鬼魅，病态感十足
And it wasn't makeup that was helping sell those effects 这些效果完全不是靠化妆实现的
Like she was just in such she was so caught up in that character in that moment 她那时完全与角色融为一体，整个人都沉浸其中
Yeah but because the rushes were a little bit dark on this scene 没错，不过这段镜头的样片色调偏暗
When they when you guys did the color and it brought out her face 当你们进行调色处理时，她的面部特征被完美凸显出来
I was like holy fuck she looks terrifying 我当时震惊了，她的样子简直令人毛骨悚然
Yeah she's so incredible 没错，她的表演实在出神入化
And I was again with the browns and with the greens 我再次运用了棕色调和绿色调
Laura is at a moment between life and death here 罗拉此刻正处于生死一线之间
So it's having that be between her those two different colours 这展现了她身上的两种截然不同的色调
I have a transformation of it once she goes out into the rain and it darkens it 当她步入雨中时，色彩发生了转变，渐渐变得深沉
But even between life and death right there she's at a crossroads 此刻她正站在生与死的十字路口
The rain and the brown background I love just the way that she's catching a breath with a hold of thin air. 我特别喜欢这个雨景和褐色背景的画面 她只吸入一点空气喘息的样子
She's communicating. There's a miracle about to happen here 她正在交流。奇迹即将发生
And she's lost up in this madness of this moment 她完全沉浸在这疯狂瞬间的迷醉里
And so having the score help sell that as well 配乐更将这份情感烘托得淋漓尽致
Yeah the way that she's picturing it it's like this is a beautiful thing 是啊 她呈现的方式让这一切看起来如此美妙
This is a miracle. This is an angel that's going to bring back my daughter 这简直就是个奇迹！这个天使一定能让我女儿回来
You know and making she wants to make Piper okay with that 你懂的 她就是想安抚Piper接受这件事
Incredible. There was like a shot that we had of her touching 太不可思议了 我们拍到她伸手触碰瓶子的那个镜头
Like it's actually Andy's creatine cup what he's using for the weights 其实那是Andy用来健身的肌酸杯子
That she was washing out earlier that she's ditching at her 她之前把瓶子洗干净了 现在准备扔向罗拉
There was a shot of her starting grabbing it so we can establish it but it gave away 本来有她伸手去抓的镜头用来铺垫，但这样会提前剧透
This was about to happen 这一幕马上就要上演了
We love Sally's reaction to all of this sort of stuff 我们超爱莎莉对这些场面做出的反应
I was so excited for this scene to happen 我超级期待这场戏的拍摄
I love Sora. We should have had a good fight for about 20 seconds 我太喜欢索拉了，我们本该让她们好好打上20秒
Sora is awesome during stunt set Sora 在特技表演中表现棒极了
This was so hard to build up to 为了拍好这个场景的铺垫可费老劲了
This is one of those things where we know these actors are going to be dry 这种戏最要命的就是演员开始是干燥的
And they're going to go out into the rain so the reset's impossible 之后冲进雨里，这样镜头只能一条过根本没法NG
The sun is set at a certain time so it's like we're only going to get 夕阳转瞬即逝我们只有很短的拍摄时间
We have to shoot each take on 为了完成这个镜头，我们得分好几天来拍摄每条素材
A different day to be able to execute this shot 这样才能顺利完成这个镜头的拍摄
Yeah so you need it at the end of the day you need them dry into wet 没错，最后还得把演员从干燥状态拍到入水湿身
The resets are massive and then safely get them down into the pool 场景重置工作很繁重，还要确保演员安全入水
There's a whole group of people there to help pull them down into the pool 现场有一组工作人员专门负责协助演员入水
Oliver's prosthetics as well with the rain 奥利弗的假体道具也会沾水
And then timing him at the right time 还需要奥利弗把握精准时机出场
Is the prosthetics going to break away and everything 还要担心假肢会不会突然脱落之类的情况
You have a small amount of time to shoot in these sort of conditions 在这些条件下拍摄时间非常有限
Yeah, and she's on this thing 没错，她还在那个拍摄装置上
That's helping her pull the weight as well. There's a board underneath 下面的滑板也在帮她分担重量
She's on a little boogie board thing under her 她下面垫着个小冲浪板
And Oliver's out in the rain 奥利弗则在雨中淋着
It washes away the prosthetics and things 雨水把假体什么的都冲掉了
And there's a whole team helping them see if they get into the pool 有一整个团队帮助Sora和Sally看看他们是否能进入游泳池
Yeah so it's going over here 没错，镜头转向这边
They're getting help into the pool so they can continue getting pushed in 有人在帮另一边的两人下水，这样这俩人就能继续被人推进水里
And then see like this you know 然后就像这样，你懂的
You're in the rain, it's cold and you can't 大雨滂沱中你冻得瑟瑟发抖却无能为力
We want to heat the pool so they're like 我们准备给泳池加热
But you can only heat it to a certain amount 但水温调节必须控制在合理范围内
Otherwise steam starts coming up 否则就会蒸汽升腾影响体验
So we have the hot spas on standby 因此我们随时备有恒温暖池
For everyone to jump in between 方便大家随时加入互动
Setups and things like that 包括场景布置等等
That's actually a green screen shot 这其实是绿幕拍摄的
That's actually not that one 实际上不是这个镜头
It's the later one, the ones after 是后来那个镜头，再后面的那些
That was incredible 这简直令人难以置信
I have to try not to get emotional 我得尽量控制住情绪
When I'm watching some of these scenes 看着这些场景的时候
especially in the pool shed 尤其当我在泳池小屋里面的时候
Every time I watched it 每次看到这里
It'd catch me and I'd cry 每次被它逮到我都忍不住要哭
It always always gets me oh 这招对我百试百灵啊
Sora Sora and Sally were so game 索拉和莎莉玩得可嗨了
To do these big takes 敢接这些高难度镜头
And by the end of it they were doing 到杀青时他们已游刃有余
Full ups and downs on the water 水面上下颠簸不断
Screaming pushing under coming back up 尖叫着被浪推下又浮起
And codes like a way 她们俩通过暗号交流
That she would squeeze Sally's hands 她总会紧紧握住莎莉的手
For certain things and everything 无论是特定时刻还是平常时候
And like Sally's never like holding weight down on Piper and stuff 而且萨莉从来不会做压住派珀的的这种操作
And allowing Piper to be able to control 这样派珀就能自己掌控
All that sort of stuff 诸如此类的情况
And pushing herself down 派珀可以主动放低身体之类的
It's so incredible. It looks so brutal 简直难以置信，场面太惨烈了
And Sora's like I want to do my stunts 索拉坚持要亲自完成特技动作
I want to do my stunts. I want to do my stunts. Let's keep going 我必须亲自完成！一定要让我来！继续拍摄吧
Because on the first time that we showed up 记得我们第一天到片场时
We're like okay it goes down then you come up 当时就决定：好，做完下坠特技后立即接上升动作
So and there's only going to be one of them 一镜只拍其中一个动作
Or two of them. But then by the end 或者两个。但到了最后阶段
Like they were doing these full 当时他们在拍摄这些完整的
Like sequences of drowning yeah 一连串溺水场景的镜头
Because like yeah it's like building up to that comfortability as well 这也像是在逐步建立起那种舒适感
Okay we're leading to that static 好的 我们正在铺垫那个定格的场景
Or that moment here when she's getting caught up in it 或是她此刻完全投入的那个镜头
And this was one of the things 这正是我们精心设计的桥段之一
This scene this sequence 这个场景或者这个段落
We wanted to subvert expectations 我们想打破常规套路
Of a horror ending we wanted it to switch 我们想反转恐怖片的常规结局
It was hopefully a pleasant coming out of nowhere 希望这个反转来得恰到好处
And then she hears her daughter's voice 紧接着她突然听到女儿的声音
Well yeah 是啊
And it's like we are playing with the sounders on 感觉就像我们把音响打开了
I'm over trying to capture the stillness of this like 我一直在努力捕捉这种静止感
I have a bit of an ethereal quality. The stillness. 这种静止带着些许空灵的气质
This was the very first thing we shot. 这是我们最开始拍摄的内容
This was the very first day. Her jumping into the pool for Cathy. 开拍首日，她就为凯西跳进了泳池
It's that thing where it's allowing the actors to 这种拍摄方式能让演员
live these things in chronological order. 按照时间线自然地经历剧情发展
Yeah the very first thing that we shot 没错，这就是我们开机拍摄的第一场戏
Yeah very first thing to shoot 是的，最先拍摄的镜头
Again it's so complicated with the blood and the water and that coming out of Cathy 凯西身上的血水特效处理起来实在太复杂了
Out of the head and the makeup and the resets of that 从头部妆容到反复补妆都得重新来过
What's her name the actor 那位演员叫什么名字来着
Misha Misha Yeah She's hilarious 米莎 对对是米莎 她简直搞笑死了
I just feel it's like the power of one word 我深深感受到这就是一个单词的力量
Like it's so I like it 这个我真的超爱
Yeah their performances in this grabbing Oh yeah Oh God 对对对这段表演绝了 天呐
It fucks me up every time I watched that 每次看这段我都破大防
And then the removing of the sweater 还有脱毛衣那段
Well do you know 那个...你懂的
This is like well it was sort of a three days the drowning sequence 这个溺水场景啊 前前后后差不多拍了三天
It was three days of like 这场戏整整拍了三天
Four days no three three 不对是四天...等等应该是三天
Actually no it was four days 啊不对我记错了 其实是四天
Actually no including the dragging 要是把拖拽的戏份都算上 四天都不止
Well yes including the dragging exactly 没错，连拖带拽的部分都算上了
So I also want to apologize for how inarticulate we are and how dumb we sound 我们说话颠三倒四像个憨憨，这事儿得给大家赔个不是
I do apologize for that 这点我必须检讨
We're not the smartest people, are we 咱俩这智商确实不太在线哈
We are dumb 纯属铁憨憨二人组
So if you made it this far, congrats everybody 如果你能看到这里，恭喜各位啦
We hope that you're not dumb because of it 希望看完这段你的智商还在线
We're going to get there 我们总会搞明白的
We're not going to get there 这事儿估计没戏了
We're not talking about it 这个话题就此打住
There was a there was a 当时有个...有个...
Yeah a practical throat rig that was also there to help move like Oliver's yeah throat 没错 那是个特制的喉部装置 专门用来辅助奥利弗完成喉部动作
Like he's like opening himself up for this purging 看 他就像是在为这场净化戏份彻底放开表演
Look at that seamless transition to the stunt lady 看这个转场 和特技女演员的衔接天衣无缝
Boom going down there 砰的一声 直接摔下去了
If you backtrack Michael what do you think was the trickiest scene to execute 迈克尔，如果要你回顾的话，你觉得哪个镜头最难拍
The cat coming out of the house 猫咪从屋里出来的那个镜头
The cat coming out of the house. It's true 就是猫咪从屋里出来的镜头，真的
It was actually so hard to get the cat to come out of the house 说真的，要让猫咪从屋里出来可太难了
Because there's a trained cat but you open the door and 虽说那是只训练有素的猫，但当你打开门它就...
There's a giant camera crew that just sits there facing out 有一整个大型摄制组就杵在那儿对着外面拍
This is yeah Everyone's a victim here That's the thing 没错 在这里谁都成了受害者 就是这么回事
It's sort of like yeah there was something really cathartic about the pool shed scene 怎么说呢 泳池小屋那场戏确实让人特别解压
And it was like we're all 当时感觉就是 我们所有人
Everyone in that pool shed was crying in that moment 当时在泳池小屋里的所有人 那个瞬间都在哭
Michael was crying giving Sally the direction 迈克尔给莎莉讲戏时突然泪崩
It was so weird 那场面真是够诡异的
It felt like letting someone go 就像是在目送某人离去
Like you could there was such a heightened emotion in that thing like every time 每次发生一想起这个，都会让人情绪高涨
Yeah it was just this thing 没错 就是这种难以言喻的感觉
Real quickly what they see here is Helene 简单介绍一下，这位是Helene
Our sister is one of the people in the club 我妹妹也是这个俱乐部的成员
Just want to give a quick shout out to Helene 特别想给Helene打个call
Our other cousin Alana came and she's about to come out to the door 还有我表妹Alana也来了，她马上就出来
Yeah and then she didn't make it in the film 不过可惜她最后没能出现在电影里
So she's in the credits credited as the girl that doesn't get seen 因此在片尾字幕里，她被标记为'隐形女孩'
And this is the cycle this is the cycle of abuse that Oliver now can break out of 这是奥利弗终于能够挣脱的受虐轮回
Look he's seen that Laura Piper has escaped there 快看 奥利弗发现罗拉·派珀已经成功逃脱了
You love to go out certain themes, don't you? 你总爱深挖某些特定主题是吧？
Alright, well let's understand. Here we go, look at this. She's 好了 让我们仔细看看 注意这个画面
So we have those videotapes and never showing Cathy's face 我们保留了这些录像带但始终没有露出凯茜的正脸
And then here, her coming to the full realization that she's dead 然后这个镜头里，她终于彻底明白自己已经死去
Well, accepting the death. Accepting the death. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 就是坦然接受死亡。接受这个事实。对，就是这样
And knowing she can't bring her daughter back so she's going to go with her 当她明白无法让女儿死而复生，便决心随女儿一同离去
And this is why when we got to this scene at the end 正因如此，当我们看到最终这场戏时
It was something about shooting it in order and then coming here 当时的拍摄要求是按剧情顺序进行，之后才转场到这里
This performance here was the saddest thing I think I've ever shot 这场表演的拍摄经历是我职业生涯中最催泪的
So sad I was like I feel like the most beautiful as well 那种悲伤中透着的凄美令人难忘
Like there's just something I don't know Sally just captured something here 莎莉的表演中有种难以言喻的魔力
Everyone was all just sobbing in this pool shed 当时泳池小屋的所有人都在抹眼泪
Yeah literally I remember I was looking at the monitor 说真的，我还清楚记得自己当时紧盯着监视器的样子
Crying tears were dripping on the monitor I won't do it again 眼泪止不住地往下掉，都滴到监视器上了，我不会再拍一条了
So it just made and it was this look like yeah it's so 最后就这样拍成了，就是你们看到的这个效果，真的绝了
She's Sally Hawkins. And we were so 那可是莎莉·霍金斯啊。我们当时都
Like we for sure thought she was going to say no to shooting this 说实话我们都笃定她会拒演这个角色
Like to acting. Like she'd never done a horror film before 她是个天生的演员 但之前从没接触过恐怖片类型
Played like a horror character like this. And so we're like she's not going to do it 要驾驭这种恐怖角色 我们都断定她会拒绝
She's not going to want to do it. And then when we got the call back saying that 本以为她会推掉 没想到经纪公司来电说
She was saying that she loved the script 她说自己完全被剧本征服了
That she fell in love with the character and fell in love with it 不仅迷上了这个角色 更为整部戏深深着迷
And we could not believe that we got on the phone with her and talked to her about it 当时我们简直不敢相信，竟然能和她通上电话聊这个项目
And a big anxiety, a big fear about this film was letting her down 我们最担心的就是会辜负她的期望
Because we know how much she gave to us in the film 因为我们深知她在影片中倾注了多少心血
Light dark light dark. Yes we know Mark 明暗交替。没错我们懂你的意思马克
We spell out the themes we know. That's what you said at the beginning of the movie 我们把核心主题都点明了。这和你影片开头说的如出一辙
I did, yep. Only when you see the good and the bad. Okay okay okay 没错，我做到了。只有经历过好坏两面才算完整。行吧行吧
So this was Sora's last shot. And look at the 这是Sora最后一场戏的镜头。你看这里
It was such a difficult thing to 这场戏难度真的超高
There's so many things going on in that scene for her as a character 这场戏里她这个角色要展现太多层次了
And she just nailed it out of the park 结果她的表现简直惊艳全场
Because it's such a subtle way 因为这种表达方式非常精妙
A bunch of different emotions 多种复杂情绪交织
And she was able to just convey it 但她却能将之完美呈现
I was just blown away in that scene 那一幕简直让我叹为观止
There's small things even just like with the transition points 就连转场时的细微之处都匠心独运
Of like the light flashing and everything 比如那些灯光闪烁的特效场景
And then like cutting into these lights moving into the dark 接着镜头切入那些渐入黑暗的光影
And then all of us scream into the train going past 然后我们所有人都朝着驶过的列车放声尖叫
Jonah's another awesome career 乔纳这次又贡献了惊艳的表演
And at the very 而在最终的
And then this shot here, the very last shot 接下来这个画面，其实是整部电影的杀青镜头
Is the last thing we shot in the movie 这是我们全片最后拍摄的一个场景
This is the last thing, the very last shot we wrapped 这就是我们最后杀青的镜头
With her daughter and it's sort of like 是和女儿一起拍的，这个场景某种程度上
At this point there was no heating in the pool 当时泳池里的水都没加热
We'd run out like that was the last thing 我们夺门而出的样子就像这是最后一次机会
Sally was in there and stuff 萨莉当时就在那个房间里
We'd turned off the heat at that thing 我们早就关掉了暖气系统
She came in there. She wanted to be there for real. 她走进来的时候，是真心想要留在那里的
And feel that. And so she's like, she's like, 'I think I died.' 想要真切体会那种感觉。所以她喃喃自语道：'我感觉自己好像死了'
She's like. She's so... 她简直...怎么说呢...
That. But on a lighter note, 那事儿先放一边，说个有趣的花絮
So this light here. The police officer coming into the pool. 注意看这里的打光 - 警官正走进泳池
House producer Samantha Jennings. You see her coming on the left here 这位从左侧入镜的是制片萨曼莎·詹宁斯
She walks in. On the first take she walks in and she slips over 她入场时 - 第一条拍摄就摔了个大马趴
And then you hear our first lady going ahhhhh 接着就听到我们的第一夫人“啊啊啊啊啊”
And Sally's like in there, completely in character 莎莉在镜头里完全沉浸于角色
Such a beautiful moment. And then imagine that shot there 真是绝美瞬间。再想想那个镜头构图
And then that police officer just slipping over 接着那位警官突然脚下一滑
It was so funny 简直笑死个人
And that is the 这就是
Dedicated to Hollywood. Yes, that's the friend that we lost at the beginning of the pre-production 谨以此片献给华莱士。没错，就是那位在前期筹备阶段离我们而去的挚友
Yeah, she thought it would be right to note him there 是的，制片人觉得在那个地方提到他是合适的
And he was so proud of ‘Talk To Me’ 他对《回应我》这部电影感到很自豪
It was his favourite thing to watch 这可是他最爱看的宝贝
He lives out in the country 他住在偏远的乡下
He drove out to the city seven times to watch the film 他不辞辛苦七次驱车进城观看这部影片
And support the film. He was so proud of us 用实际行动支持我们。他为我们感到无比骄傲
Yeah we love you Holly we love you Holly Holly我们爱你！Holly我们爱你！
And then this is probably everyone if you did make it 最后，这些可能就是所有坚持看到最后的观众了
Somehow suffered through that we thank you 感谢你陪我们共度那段艰难时光
Send us a message on Instagram saying YC 在 Instagram 上向我们发送消息说 YC
The letters YC no no no YM YM YM okay YM 是YC不对不对 应该是YM YM 那就YM
If you made it this far, please, we did this for Talk to Me as well 能看到这里的观众朋友 我们为《回应我》也准备过这样的彩蛋
It was so cool seeing how many people watched it 看到这么多观众支持真的特别感动
And seen that meant so much to us 这份情谊对我们来说意义非凡
So if you watch this commentary all the way through 如果你完整听完了这期解说
Yes, shoot us a DM on Instagram YM 欢迎通过Instagram给我们私信留言YM
Awesome. Thank you everyone so much. 太给力了！衷心感谢各位
We appreciate the support. Thank you. 承蒙厚爱，感恩有你们
Thank you. We apologize for the terrible commentary. 谢谢大家。对我们这段拉胯的解说深表歉意
Shut up. Do you want to get knocked out? 闭嘴！想挨揍是不是？
Yeah. Goodbye everybody. Farewell. Bye. 好吧。各位老铁咱们有缘再会！撤了撤了！