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‎早上好 Good morning.
‎我想订罗马到兰佩杜萨的机票 I am looking for a flight from Rome to Lampedusa.
‎请说 Yes?
‎我知道可以在网上订 I... I know I can book it on the Internet,
‎但我刚搬过来 but, uh, you know, I've only just moved here.
‎姓名 Name?
‎贝尔格里奥 豪尔赫·贝尔格里奥 Bergoglio. Jorge Bergoglio.
‎和教宗同名 Like the pope?
‎这个...对 其实... Oh, well... Well, yes. Uh, in fact...
‎邮编 Postcode?
‎我不太清楚 梵蒂冈 I'm... I'm not sure, um... Vatican City.
‎真好笑 Very funny.
‎教宗的承继
‎根据真实事件改编
‎曾经 有个年轻人走在树林中 Once, a young man was walking in the woods.
‎他叫方济各·伯纳戴德 His name was Francesco Bernardone.
‎突然间他发现了一座小教堂 Suddenly, he found a chapel...
‎破败不堪 ruined,
‎墙壁被毁 with the walls destroyed.
‎他走了进去 He stepped inside.
‎耶酥受难像还在 A crucifix was still there,
‎圣坛之前所在的位置 where the altar had been.
‎方济各被迷住了 Francesco felt captivated.
‎耶酥受难像对他说 The crucifix spoke to him and said,
‎方济各 修复我的教堂 Francesco, repair my church.
‎方济各是个实干的人 Francesco was a practical man.
‎他爬上苏巴修山去采石场 He went up to the quarry on Mount Subasio,
‎切割石料 cut stones,
‎运下山 carted them down the mountain,
‎修好了破损的墙 and repaired the broken walls.
‎任何旅程 Any journey,
‎不管有多长 no matter how long...
‎都必须有个开端 has to start somewhere.
‎任何旅程 不管有多辉煌 Any journey, no matter how glorious,
‎都可能始于一个错误 can start with a mistake.
‎如果你觉得迷茫 So, when you feel lost,
‎别担心 don't worry.
‎布宜诺斯艾利斯 2005年
‎上帝不会放弃你 God will not give up.
‎明白吗 Understood?
‎明白 Sí.
‎明白吗 Understood?
‎明白 Sí!
‎我在想 I've been thinking...
‎我们面前有很多困难 We have many troubles here.
‎全部留给圣母玛利亚解决并不公平 It's not fair to leave it all to Our Lady.
‎还有谁会为我们祷告 Who else could pray for us?
‎来看看 那个年轻人 Let's see... young man!
‎你叫什么 What's your name?
‎洛伦索 Lorenzo!
‎跟我的球队圣洛伦索队同名 The name of my team, San Lorenzo!
‎不不不 No, no, no, no.
‎圣洛伦索队 为我们祷告 San Lorenzo, pray for us...
‎神父 Father.
‎教宗 The pope...
‎教宗去世了 The pope has died.
‎梵蒂冈
‎兄弟姊妹们 Brothers and sisters,
‎我们敬爱的教宗若望·保禄二世 our beloved Holy Father John Paul II
‎已回到天主的身边 has returned to the Lord's house.
‎他为捍卫人权奋斗 He was a champion of human rights
‎为贫苦之人争取公平 who fought for justice for the poor
‎跨越各种信仰 寻求团结 and reached out across all faiths for unity.
‎但与之形成鲜明对比的是 But in sharp contrast,
‎若望·保禄二世的在位期 John Paul II's papacy
‎也显然标志着天主教会自由化的终结 also marked a clear end to liberalization
‎教会重新回到严厉谴责 and a return to the Church's harsh condemnation
‎同性恋 堕胎 of homosexuality, abortion...
‎避孕 contraception,
‎以及任命女性或已婚男性担任圣职的立场 and the ordination of women and married men.
‎这位呢 This?
‎基辅大主教 胡撒枢机 Archbishop of Kiev, Cardinal Husar.
‎好 Good.
‎这位呢 This?
‎尼日利亚的安霖泽枢机 Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria.
‎很多人说他会成为首位来自非洲的教宗 Many say he will be the first African pope.
‎好 这位呢 Good. This?
‎贝尔格里奥 阿根廷枢机 Bergoglio, Argentina.
‎改革先锋 非常受欢迎 Leading advocate for reform. Very popular in...
‎我知道他是谁 I know who he is.
‎这位呢 This?
‎-马提尼枢机 -世界各地的天主教会 - Cardinal Martini. - In Catholic churches around the world,
‎都在为负责选举新教宗的枢机主教们祷告 people are praying for cardinals in charge of electing the new pope.
‎参加教宗的遗体告别仪式 ...farewell to the last pope,
‎天主教会的枢机主教们齐聚罗马 the cardinals of the Catholic Church have gathered in Rome
‎选出一位新教宗 to elect a new pontiff...
‎在罗马 来自52个国家的115位枢机主教 In Rome, 115 cardinals from 52 countries
‎祈祷能选出一位新教宗 have been praying to elect a new pope.
‎精心准备 信仰虔诚 ...prepared, deeply spiritual,
‎但也非常政治化 but, nonetheless, very political.
‎他们要在传统和改革之间抉择 They will choose between tradition and reform.
‎媒体预计 The media's predicting a dispute
‎德国保守派若瑟·拉青格 between the German conservative, Joseph Ratzinger,
‎和意大利改革派卡洛·马提尼将展开角逐 and the Italian reformist, Carlo Martini.
‎拉青格是教廷的焦点人物 Ratzinger is a central figure in the Vatican
‎长久以来都被认为是 and has long been considered
‎接替若望·保禄二世的当然人选 the natural successor to John Paul II.
‎你吹的是什么圣歌 What's the hymn you are whistling?
‎《舞蹈皇后》 "Dancing Queen."
‎阿巴乐队的 By ABBA.
‎挺好 That's good.
‎阿巴乐队 Abba.
‎下午好 Good afternoon.
‎-下午好 -欢迎 - Buona sera. - Dobro pozhalovat.
‎-下午好 -欢迎 - Buona sera. - Willkommen.
‎欢迎 Benvenuti.
‎教会对这种辉煌已经习以为常了 The Church is too used to this glory.
‎这是欧洲 This is Europe...
‎我们的教堂很美 但空荡荡的 Our churches are beautiful but empty,
‎就像被灰烬掩埋的火 like a fire covered in ash.
‎需要有人把灰烬吹走 We need someone to blow the ash away.
‎你 You.
‎最好是个来自欧洲之外的人 Someone outside of Europe is better.
‎不 马提尼 我不行 No, Martini. Not me.
‎拉青格枢机 Cardinale Ratzinger.
‎感谢你精彩的布道 Thank you for the beautiful sermon.
‎不客气 You are welcome.
‎乌莫斯枢机 Cardinal Hummes,
‎大家都说拉丁语 生活就容易多了 life was easier when everybody spoke Latin.
‎幸会 Nice to see you.
‎他不对你说"幸会" 豪尔赫 No "Nice to see you" for you, Jorge.
‎是啊 No.
‎枢机主教们要开始投票了 The cardinals are about to vote.
‎枢机主教们正式进入西斯廷教堂 ...cardinals make a formal procession into the Sistine Chapel...
‎他们与外界唯一的交流渠道 The cardinals' only communication
‎就是那个烟囱 with the outside world will be through that chimney.
‎白烟代表选出了新教宗 White smoke means a new pope.
‎黑烟表示没有结果 ...black when there's no result.
‎今晚梵蒂冈 ...the Vatican this evening.
‎现在应该是正在进行第一轮投票 The first ballot could be taking place right now.
‎今天应该会进行一轮投票 There might be a vote today.
‎大门被关上了 选出之前都不会打开 ...grand doors have slammed shut and will remain...
‎只有到那时我们才知道新教宗是谁 Only then will we find out the identity of our new pope.
‎选举最高司祭
‎主基督为我见证 I call as my witness Christ the Lord,
‎他将判断 我认为合适之人 who will judge me, that I elect the one who I deem...
‎是按天主旨意所选 ...should be chosen according to God.
‎马提尼枢机 Martini Cardinalis.
‎贝尔格里奥枢机 Bergoglio Cardinalis.
‎拉青格枢机 Ratzinger Cardinalis.
‎贝尔格里奥枢机 Bergoglio Cardinalis.
‎拉青格枢机 拉青格枢机 Ratzinger Cardinalis. Ratzinger Cardinalis.
‎马提尼 拉青格 贝尔格里奥枢机 Martini... Ratzinger... Bergoglio Cardinalis.
‎第一轮唱票的结果 The results of the first scrutiny...
‎黑 白
‎若瑟·拉青格 47票 Joseph Ratzinger, 47 votes.
‎豪尔赫·贝尔格里奥 10票 Jorge Bergoglio, ten votes.
‎卡洛·玛利亚·马提尼 Carlo Maria Martini...
‎9票 nine votes.
‎烟是黑色的 It is black.
‎这表明没有候选人的得票数达到... This means that no candidate has achieved...
‎没有枢机主教得到所需的77票 ...no cardinal obtained the 77 votes needed.
‎才10票 It's just ten votes.
‎没有哪个来自南半球的枢机 No one from the Southern Hemisphere
‎得到过这么多票 has had so many before.
‎-世界形势开始发生变化了 -马提尼得了9票 - The world just tipped on its axis. - Martini got nine.
‎有19票支持教会做出真正的改变 So, it's 19 votes for a real change.
‎要是他让投给他的人把票都投给你 If he tells his followers to transfer their votes to you...
‎改革需要政客 Reform needs a politician.
‎把你们的票都投给马提尼 Transfer your votes to Martini.
‎他多年来都致力于改革 He has worked for reform for years.
‎已经太晚了 It's too late for that.
‎什么 What?
‎他已经让投给他的人 He's already asked anyone
‎把票转投给你了 who voted for him to vote for you instead.
‎别这样 No, please.
‎"领袖最重要的特质是 "The most important qualification for any leader
‎不想当领袖" is not wanting to be leader."
‎柏拉图说的 Plato.
‎所以 So...
‎绝对不能是拉青格 that's why it must not be Ratzinger.
‎他真的很想当选 He really wants it.
‎我认为教会面临着很大的威胁 严重的威胁 I think the Church faces, uh, um, a great danger. Serious danger.
‎我们需要一个共同的参考点 We need one common point of reference.
‎只有一个永恒不变的真理 Only one unchanging, eternal truth.
‎只有一个永恒... Only one unchanging...
‎只有一个永恒不变的真理 Only one unchanging, eternal truth.
‎你觉得他真的想当吗 当教宗就像当殉道者 You think he really wants it? Being pope is like being a martyr.
‎第三轮... The results...
‎唱票的结果 of the third scrutiny...
‎如下 are the following:
‎是白烟 白烟 It's white! It's white!
‎白烟 It's white!
‎新教宗诞生了 Habemus Papam!
‎新教宗诞生了 We have a new pope!
‎这句话将被宣布于那上边的阳台 That will be the words announced from that balcony up there.
‎新教宗诞生了 Habemus Papam.
‎枢机主教 Cardinale...
‎拉青格 Ratzinger!
‎我认为枢机主教拉青格的当选 I think that, rather than a victory for conservatives,
‎与其说是保守派的胜利 the election of Cardinal Ratzinger
‎不如说是教会团结的展现 is actually a demonstration of the unity of the Church.
‎枢机主教团内部没有很大的分歧 There weren't great divisions within the College of Cardinals.
‎把票投给枢机主教拉青格 That it was a fairly easy choice
‎是个很容易的选择 to go with Cardinal Ratzinger...
‎豪尔赫 你现在打算怎么办 Jorge, what will you do now?
‎回布宜诺斯艾利斯 Return to Buenos Aires,
‎为退休做打算 plan my retirement.
‎你这年纪 退休还为时尚早吧 You're too young to retire.
‎教会投票决定继续推迟早该进行的改革 The Church voted to make overdue reforms remain overdue.
‎我做个简单的教区神父 能做更多事 I can do more good as a simple parish priest.
‎好吧 Okay.
‎我会为他祷告 I'll pray for him.
‎若瑟·拉青格有敏锐的头脑 Joseph Ratzinger has a sharp mind.
‎他是个智者 He's an intellectual...
‎他是信仰的监察者 He's the... the watchdog of the faith.
‎这会保护信仰教义 This protects the Doctrine of the Faith.
‎他会与相对主义作斗争 He's gonna fight... relativism.
‎这是什么意思 What do you mean by that?
‎意思是 他会捍卫教义 Well, I mean, he's... he's going to stand up for dogma.
‎他会成为一位伟大的教宗 He's gonna be a great pope.
‎天啊 这样是最好的 真不敢相信 Oh, my God, this is the best... I can't believe it.
‎他已经开始说"不"了 He's already started with "No."
‎不准这个 不准那个 No against this, no against that...
‎这不利于巴西乃至全世界的穷人 It's bad for the poor in Brazil and the poor in the world.
‎人们正在弃天主教而去 People are abandoning Catholicism
‎因为它过于保守 because it is too conservative.
‎我了解拉青格 这个纳粹不该当选 I know Ratzinger. The Nazi shouldn't have been elected.
‎布宜诺斯艾利斯 2012年
‎再见 Bye, bye.
‎别买托尼奥的邮票 Don't buy Tonio's stamps.
‎不管用 They don't work.
‎我的邮票没问题 There's nothing wrong with them.
‎我写了一封优美的信 却没收到回信 I wrote a beautiful letter, and no reply.
‎再寄一次 还是没回信 Sent it again, still no reply.
‎你的邮票不管用 Your stamps don't work.
‎豪尔赫 不管你的信写得多好 Doesn't matter how good your letter was, Jorge,
‎圣洛伦索队永远不会联系你 San Lorenzo will never call you.
‎或许你寄错了地址 Maybe you used the wrong address.
‎不可能 Impossible.
‎那是众所周知的地址 It's a well-known address.
‎寄给谁的 To whom?
‎教宗 The pope.
‎那么 So...
‎托尼奥的邮票有用 Tonio's stamps work.
‎信在我这里 从梵蒂冈寄来的 I have your letters, and this is from the Vatican.
‎谢谢 Gracias.
‎为什么要写给教宗 Why the pope?
‎我订了机票 I booked my flight.
‎真的吗 Seriously?
‎什么事这么急 What's so urgent?
‎你想退休吗 You want to retire?
‎是的 Si.
‎不 No!
‎别那么做 Don't do it.
‎布宜诺斯艾利斯需要你 We need you in Buenos Aires.
‎他想让我去罗马 He wants me in Rome.
‎我之前就订了机票 I booked my flight before this.
‎巧合 A coincidence...
‎世上无巧合 There are no coincidences.
‎一切都是天主的安排 We are all in God's hands.
‎我们接下来关注梵蒂冈以及罗马目前热议的 We turn next to the Vatican and the stunning accusation
‎令人震惊的指控 that's the talk of Rome.
‎据说教会机密文件 Confidential Church documents
‎文件泄露
‎被泄露给媒体 were allegedly leaked to the press...
‎内容充斥着宗派之争 梵蒂冈银行的不当行为 Ridden with factionalism, malpractice by the Vatican Bank,
‎甚至还有不端性行为 and even sexual misconduct.
‎谁会相信 Who would have believed
‎教宗最信任的助手之一 that one of the pope's most trusted aides,
‎他的左膀右臂 被逮捕了 the man who helped, is under arrest?
‎梵蒂冈丑闻 教宗文件泄露
‎泄露让人难堪的梵蒂冈机密文件 ...leaking embarrassing confidential Vatican documents...
‎管家被捕 罪魁祸首已被找到
‎教宗的管家被捕
‎卷宗只有教宗本笃十六世一个人看过 This dossier has only been read by one guy: Pope Benedict XVI...
‎所以他完全了解这些问题 so he's fully aware of the issues...
‎整件事就是一场大乱子 The whole thing is a holy mess.
‎我们不清楚教会禁闭的大门后究竟发生了什么 There's no clarity as to what happens behind those closed doors.
‎罗马
‎早上好 Si. Good morning.
‎枢机主教 贝尔格里奥
‎您是布宜诺斯艾利斯的枢机主教吗 Are you the cardinal archbishop of Buenos Aires?
‎是我 Yes.
‎-尊敬的枢机 我来拿吧 -不不不 不用了 - Eminence, please... - No, no, no, no, it's fine.
‎-早上好 你怎么样 -很好 谢谢 - Buongiorno. How are you? - Good, thank you.
‎车就在外面 The car is just out here.
‎这边 This way.
‎交给我吧 May I?
‎-谢谢 -谢谢 - Grazie. - Grazie.
‎尊敬的枢机 尊敬的枢机 Eminence... E-Eminence...
‎不 我喜欢坐前排 No, no, I prefer to ride up front.
‎-谢谢 -好的 - Grazie. - Very well.
‎车很漂亮 It's a beautiful car.
‎-谢谢您 尊敬的枢机 -很舒适 - Thank you, Eminence. - Very comfortable.
‎这是去罗马的路吗 This is the way to Rome?
‎不 尊敬的枢机 教宗在夏宫 No, no, Eminence. The pope is in his summer residence.
‎夏宫 Summer residence.
‎或许这就是他没收到我的信的原因 Perhaps that's why he didn't get my letter.
‎尊敬的枢机 请见谅 不过... Eminence, forgive me, but...
‎他喜欢看到主教穿着主教的教袍 he prefers to see his bishops dressed like bishops
‎枢机主教穿着枢机主教的教袍 and his cardinals like cardinals.
‎真的吗 Really?
‎你有多余的枢机主教帽吗 Y-You have a spare cardinal's hat?
‎没错 那是私事 Yes. It's a private matter,
‎所以不在官方日志中 so it's not in the official diary.
‎他在看报告 He is reading the report.
‎是的 教宗清楚 Yes, His Holiness is aware.
‎我去问教宗要不要和他谈 I'll ask if he can speak to him.
‎教宗 Your Holiness.
‎您愿意和贝尔托内枢机谈谈吗 Would you speak to Cardinal Bertone?
‎他在线上 I have him here.
‎谢谢 Grazie.
‎教宗马上就来 His Holiness will join you shortly.
‎教宗经常在这里接见枢机主教吗 Does the Holy Father meet his cardinals here often?
‎不 这是第一次 No. It's the first time.
‎现在没下雨 It's... it's... it's not raining.
‎在罗马 您永远不知道接下来会发生什么 In Rome, one never knows what will happen next.
‎谢谢 Grazie.
‎他在哪里 Where is he?
‎他看着像是一辈子都住在这里 Looks like he's lived here all his life.
‎牛至 没错 Oregano, exactly.
‎我母亲对牛至情有独钟 My mother swore by oregano.
‎它让一切都变得美味 It makes everything taste good.
‎我母亲把它和面包屑混合 My mom mixes it with breadcrumbs.
‎-我母亲也是 -真的吗 - Me too. - Really?
‎是的 Yes!
‎好极了 Bravo!
‎教宗吃的东西都来自冈多菲 Everything the pope eats comes from Gandolfo.
‎我们把食材送到罗马 全是有机的 We send it to Rome. It's all organic.
‎蔬菜 鸡蛋 奶酪 Vegetables, eggs, cheese.
‎教宗 Santo Padre.
‎-早上好 -教宗 - Good morning! - Holiness.
‎早上好 Buongiorno.
‎我们上次见面时说的是拉丁语 Last time we met, we spoke Latin.
‎那是一次短暂的会面 A short meeting.
‎我学得没您好 教宗 I wasn't the student you were, Holy Father.
‎请不要说拉丁语 Please, not Latin.
‎拉丁语很有用 尤其是当... Latin is useful. Especially when...
‎我不得不对枢机主教宣布坏消息时 I have to announce bad news to cardinals.
‎只有五分之一的枢机会生气 Only 20 percent of them... become angry
‎因为只有五分之一的枢机听得懂我在说什么 as only 20 percent of them know what I have said.
‎抱歉让你久等了 I'm sorry to have kept you waiting.
‎我知道你注重准时 I know you... value punctuality.
‎我上一个助手保罗 Paolo, my last assistant,
‎他就会确保我准时到这里 he would have made sure I got here on time.
‎他... He was...
‎-他很完美 知道吗 -现在他入狱了 - He was perfect, you know? - Now he's in jail.
‎是的 Yeah.
‎您想要走一走吗 Would you prefer to walk?
‎那样或许不太明智 Well, that might not be wise.
‎你的鞋带开了 Your shoelaces are undone.
‎没错 Yeah.
‎你写信给我请辞枢机主教一职 You wrote to me asking for permission to retire as cardinal archbishop?
‎是的 Yes...
‎我带了文件 I have my papers here.
‎枢机主教直到75岁才能请求退休 Cardinals are not required to ask for their retirement until they're 75.
‎你病了吗 Are you ill?
‎我的肺有点毛病 I have a problem with my lungs.
‎我知道 但你生来就是那样 I know, but you were born with that,
‎一直都没对你造成太大困扰 不是吗 and it's not really troubled you since, has it?
‎你的档案里有记录 It's in your file.
‎-我的档案 -我们为每个人都设立了档案 - My file? - We keep files on everyone.
‎所以你不必受宠若惊 So you don't have to be flattered.
‎不 我... No, I...
‎-我没生病 -是吧 - I'm not ill. - No.
‎事实上 你非常活跃 In fact, you're very active.
‎你到哪都是步行去的 有时会骑自行车 You walk everywhere and sometimes use a bicycle.
‎没错 我还一周跳一次探戈 Yeah, and I tango once a week.
‎探戈是舞蹈吗 Tango is dance?
‎我是阿根廷人 I'm Argentinian.
‎探戈和足球是必须会的 Tango and football are compulsory.
‎当然 你和别人一起跳吗 Of course, yeah. You dance with someone?
‎一个人跳的话可能会显得有些蠢 I... One might look rather foolish dancing alone.
‎所以为了维护枢机的尊严 我和别人一起跳 So, for the sake of the dignity of my office, yes, with someone.
‎当然 那样很好 请坐 Of course, that's good. Please.
‎没错 Yes.
‎你一直是我最严厉的批评者之一 You've been one of my harshest critics,
‎严厉批评我的人可不少 and there's a lot of competition for that title.
‎我从未公开说过反对您的话 I've never spoken out against you.
‎没有直接说 但是... No, not directly, but...
‎你拒绝住在枢机主教的官邸 you refuse to live in the official palace of the cardinal archbishops.
‎是的 那里太豪华 太大了 Si, it's too grand. It's too big.
‎你的生活如此纯粹和简单 By being so, um... pure and simple,
‎倒显得我们活得不够简单了 you imply the rest of us are not living simply enough.
‎真的有人 Can one ever...
‎能活得足够简单吗 live simply enough?
‎你对于已婚神父的观点 On, uh... married priests.
‎有人误引了我的话 I was misquoted.
‎我说的是 "独身既可以是幸事 I said, "Celibacy can be a blessing.
‎也可以是诅咒" It can also be a curse."
‎嗯 那么对于同性恋呢 Yeah. And on homosexuality?
‎我说的只不过是... All I said was...
‎-肯定又有人误引了你的话吧 -断章取义 - No doubt, misquoted again? - Taken out of context.
‎那我能否建议你试试 But might I suggest you try telling the newspapers
‎对媒体说反话 the opposite of what you think?
‎这样你被正确引述的可能性就会大一点 Your chances of being quoted correctly might, therefore, improve.
‎还有 你公然给那些不该参加圣餐仪式的人 Another thing: you openly give sacraments
‎提供圣餐 to those who are out of communion.
‎比如离异人士 To the divorced, for instance.
‎我认为提供圣餐并不是要嘉奖道德高尚的人 I believe that giving communion is not a reward for the virtuous,
‎而是给挨饿的人提供食物 it is food for the starving.
‎就是说你的看法才重要 So, what matters is what you believe,
‎教会几百年以来的传统不重要吗 but not what the Church has taught for hundreds of years?
‎不不不 No, no, no.
‎马可福音第二章第十七节 "我来乃是召罪人" Mark, chapter two, verse 17, "I came to call sinners,"
‎正如教会千年以来的传统一样 as the Church has taught for thousands of years.
‎如果我们不划清界限 If we do not draw a line...
‎或者筑墙将两者隔开 Or build walls to separate...
‎你说得好像墙是不好的东西 You talk about walls as if they are bad things.
‎房屋就是用墙建起来的 坚固的墙 A house is built of walls. Strong walls.
‎耶稣筑墙了吗 Did Jesus build walls?
‎祂是仁慈的化身 His face is a face of mercy.
‎罪人的罪过越重 受到的欢迎就越热烈 The bigger the sinner, the warmer the welcome.
‎仁慈是摧毁墙的炸药 Mercy is the dynamite that blows down walls.
‎是啊 Yeah.
‎你无所不知 是吧 You have an answer for everything, don't you?
‎别停下 Don't stop now.
‎-继续走 -我得走起来 我们走吧 - Keep moving. - I have to walk. Let's go.
‎别停下 继续走 Don't stop now. Keep moving
‎你很聪明 太过聪明了 You're clever. Far too clever.
‎继续走 Keep moving.
‎我的难处你也知道 You see my dilemma.
‎你能言善辩 非常受欢迎 You're very eloquent, you're very popular.
‎如果我同意你卸任 人们会以为你在抗议 If I allow you to resign, it will look like a protest.
‎教会现在四面楚歌 The Church being attacked from all sides,
‎你为什么不想和它患难与共呢 why would you want to abandon her to her enemies?
‎狼群出现的时候牧羊人会逃跑吗 Does a shepherd run away when the wolves appear?
‎我不是要逃跑 I'm not running away.
‎我会负责一个教区 好好牧养信众 I'll take a parish. I'll be a good shepherd to its people.
‎你还不明白吗 你差一点就被选为教宗了 Don't you understand? You were almost elected pope.
‎如果你卸任 就会像是在批判教会 If you resign, it will look like a criticism.
‎你的生活方式就是一种批判 你的鞋也是 The way you live is a criticism. Your shoes are a criticism.
‎你不喜欢我的鞋吗 You don't like my shoes?
‎请不要对我说的每句话都一笑了之 拜托了 Please, do not make a joke of everything I say. Please.
‎这是不诚实 是玩世不恭 It is dishonest and cynical.
‎请尊重我 展现你真正的愤怒 Have enough respect to show me your real anger.
‎你认为教会正在衰落吗 Do you think the Church is failing?
‎我们的信徒确实在减少 Well, we are losing people.
‎这是教会的错吗 And that is the fault of the Church?
‎不是西方的相对主义或纵容主义 Not of... of... Western relativism, or permissiveness,
‎或现在流行的"百无禁忌"的错吗 or what do they say now? Oh, yes, "Anything goes."
‎是的 Yeah.
‎你曾说教会自恋 You said the Church is narcissistic.
‎-这句话也是误引吗 -不 我确实说过 - Or was that another misquote? - No, no, I did say that.
‎我觉得您的教会似乎... It seems to me that your Church...
‎-我的教会 -我们的教会 - My Church? - Our Church...
‎正朝着我无法再容忍的方向发展 ...is moving in directions that I can no longer condone,
‎又或许是时代要求它发展 or... or not moving at all
‎但它却故步自封 when the time demands movement.
‎教宗 Holy Father...
‎我已经不想再当推销员了 I no longer wish to be a salesman.
‎-推销员 -这是个比喻 - A salesman? - It's a metaphor.
‎一名产品推销员 A salesman for a product.
‎产品 A product?
‎作为一名推销员 A salesman for a product that I...
‎凭良心说 我不认可我推销的产品 I cannot, in all conscience, endorse.
‎你失去信仰了吗 That you don't believe in?
‎我觉得我们似乎不再是这世界的一份子了 It seems to me that we are no longer part of this world.
‎我们不归属于它 We don't belong to it.
‎我们与世隔绝 We are not connected.
‎"与时俱进的教会..." "A Church that marries the spirit of the age..."
‎是 "会被下一个时代抛弃" Yes, "...will be widowed in the next."
‎-没错 -我知道 - Yeah. - I know. I know.
‎教宗 Holy Father...
‎在你还是阿根廷耶稣会的领袖时 When you were leader of the Jesuits in Argentina,
‎你让人下架了图书馆里所有马克思主义的书 you had all the books on Marxism removed from the library.
‎而我让修生整天都穿着长袍 And I made seminarians wear cassocks all day,
‎甚至他们在菜园里干活的时候也要穿 even when they were working in the vegetable garden.
‎我还把同性恋者的民事婚姻称作魔鬼的计划 And I called civil marriage for homosexuals the Devil's plan.
‎-我们没什么两样 -不 - You were not unlike me. - No.
‎我改变了 I changed.
‎-不 你妥协了 -不 不是妥协 - No, you compromised. - No. No compromise.
‎-不 我改变了 -妥... - No, I changed. - Com...
‎这不一样 It's a different thing.
‎教... Fath...
‎改变就是妥协 Change is compromise.
‎生命 Life...
‎祂给予我们的生命 the life He gave us,
‎全在于改变 is all change.
‎您是圣彼得的承继者 You are the successor to San Pietro.
‎圣彼得结过婚 San Pietro was married.
‎多谢你告诉我 我不知道这件事 Oh, thank you for letting me know. I had no idea.
‎直到十二世纪我们才要求神父保持独身 We didn't ask priests to be celibate until the 12th century.
‎天使 Angels?
‎五世纪以前没人提起过天使 No mention before the fifth century,
‎忽然之间到处都有天使了 and suddenly, angels are everywhere,
‎就像鸽子一样 like... like pigeons.
‎自然万物都是不断变化的 Nothing is static in nature
‎宇宙也一样 or the universe,
‎连天主也一样 not even God.
‎天主是不会改变的 God does not change.
‎不 他也改变了 Yes, He does.
‎他朝我们走来了 He moves towards us.
‎"我就是道路 真理 生命" "I am the way, the truth, and the life."
‎《约翰福音》第十四章第六节
‎如果祂一直在移动 我们要去哪里找祂 Where should we find Him if He's always moving?
‎在旅程中 On the journey?
‎你这么说是因为你的自负 This is your ego talking.
‎你以为自己更明事理 You think you know better.
‎我是阿根廷人 I'm Argentinian.
‎阿根廷人会怎么自杀 How does an Argentinian kill himself?
‎他会爬到他的自负顶端然后纵身一跃 He climbs to the top of his ego and jumps off.
‎我对花园的这部分不太熟悉 I'm not familiar with this part of the garden.
‎我们在哪儿 Where are we?
‎要不往这边走 这边有树荫 Maybe this way, where there is some shade?
‎好啊 Oh, yeah.
‎也许我们会在那里找到天主 Perhaps we'll find God over there,
‎在旅程中 我会把你引见给祂 on the journey. I'll introduce you to Him.
‎我们坚守了两千年的传统 We defend 2,000 years of tradition,
‎但贝尔格里奥枢机 他更明事理 but Cardinal Bergoglio, he knows better.
‎不 过去这几年我们一直在管教那些 No, no. We have spent these last years disciplining anyone
‎与我们在离婚 节育 同性恋问题上 who disagrees with our line on divorce,
‎意见不一的人 on birth control, on being gay.
‎与此同时我们的地球正在被破坏 While our planet was being destroyed,
‎不平等像癌症一样滋长 while inequality grew like a cancer,
‎而我们还在担心 we worried about whether
‎用拉丁语做弥撒是否妥当 it was all right to speak the Mass in Latin,
‎担心是否应该允许女孩担任辅祭 whether, uh, girls should be allowed to be altar servers.
‎天主教弥撒的辅助者 多为男童
‎我们一直在自己周围筑墙 We built walls around us, and all the time,
‎而真正的危险一直在墙内 all the time, the real danger was inside,
‎就在我们身边 inside with us.
‎你在说什么 What are you talking about?
‎我认为您知道我在说什么 I think you know what I'm talking about.
‎我们一直知道 一些神父和主教 We knew there were priests, bishops,
‎一些教会里的大人物在对孩子下手 great men of the Church who preyed on children.
‎-对此我们做了什么 -我们正在处理这个问题 - And what did we do? - We are addressing this.
‎我们听了他们的告解 We heard their confession,
‎然后把他们调到另一个教区 then moved them on to another parish
‎让他们从头开始 where they could start all over again.
‎我们当时以为如果他们告解了... We believed if they confessed...
‎我们当时以为 Oh, we believed it was better
‎与其让九百万人因为一桩丑闻失去信仰 if nine children suffered
‎不如只让九个孩子忍受折磨 than if nine million lost their faith because of a scandal?
‎不 当然不是 这太荒唐了 No, of course not. That is grotesque.
‎一位主教 一位主教是这么告诉我的 A bishop! A bishop said that to me!
‎那你是怎么回答他的 And how did you answer him?
‎我让他把那位神父免职 I told him to remove the priest from his ministry
‎按教规对他进行审判 立刻执行 and initiate a canonical trial. Straight away.
‎我不相信那位神父说几句咒语 I didn't believe a few magic words from the priest
‎一切就会恢复如初了 would make everything all right again.
‎咒语 你就是这么看待圣事的吗 Magic words? Is that how you describe the sacrament?
‎告解可以净化罪人的灵魂 Confession cleans the sinner's soul.
‎但它帮不了受害者 It does not help the victim.
‎罪过是一道伤口 Sin is a...a wound,
‎不是一块污迹 not a stain.
‎它需要被医治 被治疗 It needs to be healed, to be treated.
‎仅仅宽恕是不够的 Forgiveness is not enough.
‎你嘴上说着"我们" You say "We,"
‎-但你想说这是我的错 -不 - but you mean I'm the one to blame. - No.
‎-教宗 拜托 -你的抗议 听着 - Holy Father. Please. - Your protest... Listen to me.
‎你的卸任是对圣座的抗议 Your resignation is a protest against the Holy See,
‎-而你在请求我的批准 -不 - and you're asking me to ratify it. - No.
‎你说你不想再担任枢机主教了 You say you no longer wish to be cardinal archbishop.
‎我问你 你确定你还想当一名神父吗 I ask you, are you sure you still wish to be a priest?
‎你说的话我完全不认同 I don't agree with anything you say.
‎-谢谢你 -不客气 - Thank you. - You're welcome.
‎教宗要休息到晚餐的时候 The Holy Father has retired now until dinner.
‎我来带您去您的房间 I'm to show you to your room.
‎我的房间 My room?
‎是的 Yes.
‎请跟我来 Come. Please.
‎但是 But, uh...
‎教宗呢 What about His Holiness?
‎-教宗独自用餐 -为什么 - The pope eats alone. - Why?
‎他喜欢这样 He prefers it that way.
‎但他给您安排了同样的晚餐 But he has arranged for you both to eat the same meal.
‎他母亲的家常菜 Just as his mother used to make it.
‎一道典型的巴伐利亚菜 A typical Bavarian dish,
‎德国酸菜饺子 Knödel mit Sauerkraut.
‎这... Well...
‎是 我知道 Yes, I know.
‎有时候 他用完晚餐会来这里休息 After dinner, sometimes, he comes here to relax.
‎这里真美 不是吗 It's beautiful, huh?
‎是啊 Yeah.
‎若望教宗 Well, Papa John.
‎我能不能... Se posso...
‎当然 Certo.
‎好的 谢谢 Sì, grazie.
‎-再见 尊敬的枢机 -谢谢 - Arrivederci, eminenza. - Oh, grazie.
‎真棒 做得好 Bravo. Well done.
‎你今天走了一万步 You did 10,000 steps today.
‎-恭喜 -我的步数目标 - Congratulations. - Ah, my goal.
‎我的医生给我定的 My doctor gave it to me.
‎他说 "以八十六岁而言您的身体很棒 He said, "You are in good shape for 86,
‎但以人类来说就太差了" but very bad shape for a human being."
‎我觉得他是在开玩笑 I believe this was a joke.
‎-不不不 不用关 -不行 - No, no, no, no, please. - No, no.
‎-别关 -不 - No, no. - No.
‎-不用关 -不 - Please. - No.
‎-我知道你喜欢足球 -不 - I know you love football. - No.
‎我一直体会不到足球的激情所在 I've never understood the excitement myself.
‎真的吗 世界杯期间也体会不到吗 Really? Not even during the World Cup?
‎您的国家队和我的国家队 You know, your national team and mine, we...
‎明年可能会在决赛碰面 we could be in the final together next year.
‎他们和阿根廷队势均力敌 They could be a match for Argentina.
‎是吗 那很好 Yeah? That's good.
‎请坐 Please sit.
‎教宗 Holy Father...
‎-请您看一下我的辞职信 -不不不 - I want you to look at my papers, please. - No, no, no...
‎-不 这是 但我的信 -不不不 - No, this is... But my papers, - No, no, no...
‎-我真的... -别这样 - I really... - No, please.
‎拜托您了 我来这里就是为了这件事 Please, no, this is the reason I'm here.
‎不 Nein.
‎我知道你喜欢谈话 但我累坏了 I know you like to talk, but I'm exhausted.
‎请坐 Please, sit down.
‎我们就安静地坐一会儿 请坐 Let's just be quiet together. Please sit.
‎很好 Good.
‎太累了 Get so tired.
‎-你想喝茶还是咖啡 -不用了 谢谢 - Would you like a tea or coffee? - No, thank you.
‎我大半夜喝咖啡就会失眠 I find if I drink coffee too late at night, I can't sleep.
‎我也是 Me too.
‎最难的是聆听... You know, the hardest thing is to listen...
‎聆听祂的旨意 to hear His voice.
‎天主的旨意 God's voice.
‎什么 连教宗也是如此吗 Sorry, even for a pope?
‎也许教宗更是如此 But perhaps especially for a pope.
‎很久之前 我还年轻时 You know, when I was a young man, hundreds of years ago,
‎我总是知道祂对我的期望 知道天主想要什么 I always knew what He wanted of me. What God wanted, what...
‎对我的安排是什么 purpose He had for me.
‎但现在... But now...
‎我不知道 I don't know.
‎也许我需要更专注地聆听 Perhaps I need to listen more intently.
‎你觉得呢 贝尔格里奥枢机 What do you think, Cardinal Bergoglio?
‎什么 What?
‎是啊 Yeah.
‎也许我需要一个... I think, perhaps, I need a...
‎神灵助听器 a spiritual hearing aid.
‎谁真正知道呢 Who does know?
‎我第一次听到旨意时 无论那是什么 You know, when I first heard that voice, whatever that was...
‎祂的旨意 天主的旨意 His voice, God's voice...
‎给我带来了安宁 it brought me peace.
‎如此安宁 Such peace.
‎你肯定也感受过 You must have felt that?
‎呼召 是的 The call, yes.
‎那种安宁... The peace...
‎我不会称之为安宁 I wouldn't call it peace.
‎卖出一百八十张票 180 tickets sold.
‎很好 Great.
‎-可以下班了吗 -当然 - Am I free? - Sure!
‎谢谢 Gracias.
‎这世界有时很喧嚣 You know, the world can be chaotic.
‎而喧嚣中也有美丽之处 And there's beauty in that.
‎布宜诺斯艾利斯 1956年
‎我小时候就萌生了要当神父的想法 I started to think about being a priest when I was a kid.
‎我没打定主意 所以我祖母说 I wasn't sure, so my grandmother said,
‎"祈求天主给予旨意" "Ask God for a sign."
‎你好 Hola.
‎我照做了 I did.
‎一无所获 Nothing.
‎我感觉被遗弃了 I felt abandoned.
‎所以我继续生活 So, I got on with life.
‎我有了工作 I had a job.
‎我有了阿玛利亚 I had Amalia.
‎你在做什么 What are you doing?
‎我有了未来 I had a future.
‎豪尔赫 这些结果都一样 Jorge, these results are the same.
‎对 同样的试验 Yes, same experiment.
‎我们不是说好了吗 What did we agree on?
‎我们必须反复试验 We have to test, test, and test.
‎事实决定成败 We live and die by facts.
‎事实是... Facts are...
‎你理了发 You've had a haircut.
‎这是事实 That is a fact.
‎这件衬衫是新的 And that shirt is new.
‎也是事实 Also a fact.
‎你已经决定了吗 You've decided?
‎你要求婚了 You will propose!
‎这是猜测 That's speculation.
‎不 是推论 No, a deduction.
‎错误的推论 An incorrect deduction.
‎我早就求婚了 I already asked.
‎今晚我们要讨论细节 Tonight we'll discuss the details.
‎所以你不打算当神父了 So, you won't be a priest.
‎合理的结论 艾丝特 A logical conclusion, Esther.
‎你为什么花了这么久 What took you so long?
‎我必须聆听 I had to listen to...
‎祂是否对我有其它安排 you know, if He had other plans for me.
‎他 He?
‎祂 He.
‎这个国家的神父已经够多了 This country doesn't need another priest.
‎我要重做试验 I'll redo the tests.
‎-下一次 别糊弄我 -我保证 - Next time, don't fool me. - Promise.
‎豪尔赫 Jorge!
‎你会成为一名好父亲的 You're going to be a great father.
‎你真美 You're beautiful!
‎这束花最漂亮 The prettiest ones.
‎我看起来如何 How do I look?
‎很英俊 Very handsome!
‎好的 非常感谢 Bueno, muchas gracias.
‎进来 Come in.
‎不 神父 我只是路过 No, Father, I was just passing.
‎请保佑我 神父 因我有罪 Bless me, Father, for I have sinned.
‎我在听 孩子 I'm listening, my son.
‎我们开始之前 能问您点事吗 Before we start, may I ask you something?
‎我没在附近见过您 您是哪里人 I haven't seen you around. Where are you from?
‎帕琪帕提西亚 Parque Patricios.
‎我有时会来这里做弥撒 Sometimes I come here to give Mass.
‎我在祈祷您不是飓风队的球迷 I'm praying you're not a Huracan supporter.
‎你的祷告应验了 Your prayers have been answered.
‎我就住在附近 在神父病患之家 I live close by in the priests' home for the sick.
‎您照顾病人 You tend to the sick.
‎不 我就是病人 No. I'm one of them.
‎我得了癌症 I have cancer.
‎白血病 Leukemia.
‎那您为什么来这里 神父 Then why are you here, Father?
‎我今早醒来 I woke up this morning,
‎天主让我来听告解 the Lord asked me to hear confession.
‎但没人来... But no one came...
‎除了你 until you.
‎你有什么困扰 What is troubling you?
‎我听着呢 孩子 I'm listening, son.
‎前些日子 我曾祈求主的旨意 Some time ago, I asked for a sign.
‎也许... Perhaps...
‎祂现在就在给予我 He's giving it now.
‎也许是祂让我来和你谈话 Maybe He wanted me here to speak with you.
‎和我 With me?
‎对 Sì.
‎现在你知道天主正注视着我们 Now you know our Father is watching.
‎你可以开始告解了 You can confess.
‎说出你的心事 Free your heart.
‎-贝尔格里奥 -谢谢 - Bergoglio. - Gracias.
‎谢谢 Gracias.
‎-贝尔格里奥 -是 - Bergoglio. - Yes.
‎-欢迎回家 -谢谢 - Welcome home. - Thank you.
‎-你好吗 -很好 - How are you? - Good.
‎你知道你放弃了什么吗 Do you know what you're saying no to?
‎-知道 -是吗 - Yes. - Yes?
‎我有过一个爱人 所以... She even has a name. So...
‎你以后得学会用另一种方式爱她 You will have to learn to love her in another way.
‎爱有很多方式 知道吗 Love has many faces. Sì?
‎假如认为人没有爱也能生存 那就大错特错了 It's a big mistake to think one can live without love.
‎知道吗 Sì?
‎我还有圣洛伦索队 I still have San Lorenzo.
‎我现在明白 我的路早就注定了 I can see now there was never an alternative.
‎我和那个神父在那天相遇 That priest, that day, me finding him there.
‎即便我过门不入 Even if I'd passed by,
‎天主也会用其它方式来呼召我 God would have found another way to call me.
‎你是这么地确信 You have such certainty.
‎是的 Yes.
‎我也确信祂想要我退休 And I'm certain... He wants me to retire.
‎请别在今晚说这个 Not this evening, please.
‎我知道我们有所不同 存在分歧 I know we have our differences, our disagreements,
‎但今晚 but, please, this evening,
‎就当成一次兄弟聚会 好吗 let's be... simply brothers together, shall we?
‎你会弹奏钢琴或其它乐器吗 Do you play the piano or any instrument?
‎不会 但我知道您会 No. No, but I know you do.
‎您录过一张专辑 You, uh... you made an album.
‎《来自梵蒂冈的音乐：母校》 Music from the Vatican: Alma Mater.
‎对 我录过 That's right, I did.
‎你有那张专辑吗 Have you a copy of the album?
‎有的 有的 当然 Oh, yes, yes. Por supuesto.
‎我可以给你签名 I could sign it for you.
‎那太好了 Yes, please.
‎也许您可以弹首曲子 Perhaps you could play something now.
‎我有点疏于练习 但... Well, I... I'm a bit out of practice, but...
‎我试试看 let's see, I'll try.
‎这首曲子是贝多伊齐·史麦塔纳所作 Now, this little piece by Bedrich Smetana,
‎他是我最喜欢的捷克人 my favorite Czech,
‎是一首摇篮曲 and, it's a lullaby.
‎看看我能弹成什么样 Let's see what I can do.
‎他命运悲惨 He lived a tragic life, you know.
‎是啊 Yeah, well.
‎总之... Anyway, so...
‎你知道... You know, the, um...
‎这张专辑是在伦敦一个著名的录音室录制的 this album was recorded in a... a famous studio in London.
‎我被告知 我应该深感荣幸 I was told, uh, I should be very honored
‎因为披头士在那里录过歌 because the Beatles had been there.
‎你知道披头士吗 Do you know the Beatles?
‎嗯 我知道他们 Yes, I know who they are.
‎当然了 Of course you do.
‎《艾琳·卢比》 "Eleanor Rigby."
‎-谁 -《艾琳·卢比》 - Who? - "Eleanor Rigby."
‎-我不认识 -《黄色潜水艇》里的 - I don't know her. - You know, Yellow Submarine.
‎-抱歉 我不知道她... -那张专辑 《黄色潜水艇》 - Sorry, I don't know who she... - The album, Yellow Submarine.
‎《黄色潜水艇》 好傻 Yellow Submarine? That's silly.
‎真好笑 It's very funny.
‎是的 我不记得那个... Yes, I... I can't remember where the...
‎录音室在哪 是... studio was, it was a...
‎是个类似教堂的地方 But, uh, it was like a church or something.
‎艾比路 Abbey Road.
‎Abbey意为修道院
‎修道院 威斯敏斯特修道院吗 对 那条路 Abbey, the Abbey? Yes, the road.
‎艾比路 您去了艾比路吗 Abbey Road. You went to Abbey Road?
‎没有 那样并不合适 No, no, no. It would not have been appropriate.
‎威斯敏斯特修道院在1540年 英王创立圣公会后不再属于天主教
‎但是 But, you know,
‎我以前认为自己有音乐天赋 但是 I once thought I had a calling for music, but, uh...
‎恐怕 I'm afraid, um...
‎在琴键上 我也会出错 at the keyboard, I'm not infallible.
‎但我很享受 But I enjoy it.
‎你喜欢吗 You like?
‎这首曲子很不一样 It's... very different.
‎很好听 It's wonderful.
‎这是一首柏林歌厅里的老歌 It's an old, um... uh, Berlin cabaret song.
‎战前一位叫莎拉·林德的歌手 It was made famous on the radio before the war
‎在广播里唱了这首歌 使它闻名于世 by a singer called Zarah Leander.
‎她很漂亮 我是她的忠实歌迷 She was very pretty. I was a big fan of hers.
‎-抱歉 谁 -莎拉·林德 - Sorry, who was? - Zarah Leander.
‎要喝点酒吗 Would you like some wine?
‎-那儿有酒 -好的 谢谢 - There's some. - Ah, okay. Thank you.
‎♪ 亲爱的 再见了 ♪ ♪ Sweet Auf Wiedersehen ♪
‎酒不错吧 It's good wine?
‎格拉纳多斯 Granados.
‎西班牙作曲家及钢琴家
‎斯托克豪森 Stockhausen.
‎德国作曲家及钢琴家
‎这里信号不好 The signal is not good here.
‎时好时坏的 但是... Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. But it's, uh...
‎没错 Yes.
‎看 这个 看 Look, there's this... Look.
‎雷克斯
‎我最喜欢的电视剧就是《最佳搭档雷克斯》 My favorite program is Kommissar Rex.
‎是奥地利的一部电视剧 It's a television program from Austria,
‎讲的是一条会破案的德国牧羊犬 以及... and, uh, a German shepherd dog who solves crimes, and, uh...
‎它遇到的麻烦 the trouble he gets into.
‎它每周都会遇到麻烦 The trouble he gets into every week.
‎这部剧很有意思 我的天 It's very fun, oh my.
‎能让我不去想那些烦心事 It takes my mind off things.
‎最佳搭档雷克斯
‎我跟你说件事 You know something, I'll tell you.
‎在这个地方 他们叫我"天主的罗威纳犬" Here, in this place, they call me "God's Rottweiler,"
‎为天主看家 guarding the house of God.
‎他们不知道我知道这件事 但... They don't know I... I know, but...
‎所以我一直什么都没说 So I never say anything.
‎但是...也算是小乐趣 But it's a... you know, it's a small pleasure.
‎小乐趣很重要 Well, small pleasures are important.
‎-是啊 -您知道那个故事吗 - Yeah. - You know the story, the...
‎讲的是两个喜欢抽烟的修生 the two seminarians who... who liked to smoke?
‎不知道 他们应该抵御这种诱... No. They should resist the temp...
‎没错 其中一个修生 Well, yeah, yeah. So, the first one,
‎去找了他的神师 问道 he goes to his spiritual director, and he says,
‎"神父 祷告时可以抽烟吗" "Father, is it permitted to smoke while praying?"
‎神师回答道 "不行 当然不行了" And the director says, "No. No, of course not."
‎-当然不行 那是... -是不行 - Of course not. No, it's... - No, no. So...
‎另一位修生是耶稣会士 So, the second one, he was a Jesuit.
‎他对他的朋友说 He says to his friend,
‎"兄弟 你问错问题了" "Brother, you're just asking the wrong question."
‎于是他去找神师 So he goes to the director,
‎问道 "神父 抽烟时 then he says, "Father, is it permitted to pray
‎可以祷告吗" while smoking?"
‎是 Yeah.
‎一边祷告一边抽烟... Pray and smoke at the same ti...
‎这是个笑话 It's a joke.
‎冷笑话 It's a silly joke.
‎一边祷告一边抽烟是不可能的 Pray and smoke at the same time. It's impossible.
‎我从来记不住笑话 I can never remember jokes.
‎记住笑话是耶稣会士培训的重要部分 Remembering jokes is an essential part of Jesuit training.
‎是的 Yeah.
‎对 Yes.
‎我喜欢有人陪伴 I like company.
‎我之前都是一个人 I was alone.
‎《以赛亚书》第41章第10节 Isaiah 41, chapter 10.
‎对 "不要害怕 因为我永远与你同在" Yeah. "Do not be afraid, for I am with you, always."
‎是的 是的 Sí, sí.
‎嗯 Yeah.
‎我知道祂在这里 I know He's here...
‎但祂不会笑 but He doesn't laugh.
‎至少我没听过祂笑 你懂吗 At least, I don't hear Him laughing. You know?
‎不 你不懂 No, you wouldn't know.
‎像你这样的人 Someone like you...
‎永远不会明白我的意思 would never understand what I... mean.
‎抱歉 我必须要休息了 我... I'm sorry, I'm... I must rest. I'm...
‎今天累坏了 It's been a long day.
‎晚安 Gute Nacht.
‎-好 -好的 - Yeah. - Yes.
‎-晚安 -晚安 - Good night. - Buenas noches.
‎早上好 尊敬的枢机 Good morning, Eminence.
‎早上好 Good morning.
‎教宗很抱歉 教廷让他赶回罗马 The Holy Father apologizes, but he's been called back to Rome.
‎有紧急事务 Urgent business.
‎您能否尽快准备好出发 If you can get ready as soon as possible.
‎-谢谢 修女 再见 -尊敬的枢机 再见 - Thank you, Sister. Goodbye. - Eminenza. Goodbye.
‎枢机主教 我为您准备了一份纪念品 Cardinal, I have a souvenir for you.
‎-我剪下了一些 -谢谢 - I made some cuttings. - Thank you!
‎这样等您回家后... So, when you return home...
‎我来帮您 Let me help you.
‎谢谢 Grazie.
‎意大利共和国
‎希望这项紧急事务不会太... I hope this urgent business is not too...
‎希望这项紧急事务不会太棘手 I hope this urgent business is not too distressing.
‎教廷就像一台机器 The Curia is like a machine.
‎你把手伸进去 就会被剁成肉泥 You put your hand inside, it chops it into mincemeat.
‎他们总是为自己辩护 They always defend themselves.
‎有时候感觉做教宗就像是案上鱼肉 Sometimes it feels like being pope is to become breakfast.
‎那是什么植物 是... What is that plant? Is that, uh...
‎-这个吗 -是罗勒吗 - This? - Is that basil?
‎是牛至 It's oregano.
‎您的园丁送我的 Your gardener gave it to me.
‎是啊 你很受欢迎 Oh, yes. You're very popular.
‎你这么受欢迎 有什么秘诀吗 This popularity of yours, is there a trick to it?
‎我只是做我自己罢了 I just try to be myself.
‎我试着做自己的时候 Whenever I try to be myself,
‎人们似乎都不太喜欢我 people don't seem to like me very much.
‎而且我也别无选择 因为我必须要做教宗 Also, there's no option, since I'm obliged to be pope.
‎教宗 关于我的退休... Holy Father, about my retirement...
‎教宗希望能继续与您的谈话 The Holy Father wants to finish his conversation with you,
‎但他必须先处理一项紧急事务 but first, he must deal with an urgent matter.
‎可以告诉我是什么事务吗 May I know the nature of the business?
‎您可以明早七点和他谈 好吗 You can talk to him tomorrow at seven, okay?
‎枢机主教 需要载您一程吗 Hey, Cardinal, need a lift?
‎-披萨怎么样 -趁热吃更好吃 - How's the pizza? - Better when hot.
‎梵蒂冈的丑闻今日继续发酵 The scandal at the Vatican worsened today
‎加布里埃莱·努齐发布了他的新书 after Gianluigi Nuzzi released his book entitled
‎《教宗本笃十六世的密信》 His Holiness: The Secret Letters of Benedict XVI.
‎这本书包含教宗与其私人秘书之间的 The book consists of documents, letters, and memoranda
‎文件 信件以及备忘录 between the pope and his personal secretary.
‎梵蒂冈上下为之震惊 It has sent shock waves through the Vatican
‎并让本笃教宗从他的夏宫 and brought Pope Benedict back to Rome
‎冈多菲堡回到罗马 from Castel Gandolfo, his summer residence.
‎阿根廷 厄瓜多尔
‎太棒了 Bueno.
‎感谢天主赐予小烟枪的天赋 Thank you, Lord, for Pipita's gift.
‎阿根廷队球员伊瓜因的绰号
‎阿门 Amen.
‎天主 也请保佑我们的教宗 Also, Lord, bless our pope.
‎那个德国人 让他自求多福吧 The German? Let him bless himself.
‎纳粹 Nazi.
‎不 No.
‎体育酒吧
‎请天主赐予他一夜宁静以及和平结局 Let God grant him a quiet night and a peaceful end.
‎进来 Sí?
‎教宗 他不在那里 Holy Father, he's not there.
‎什么意思 What do you mean?
‎我们找不到他 我派车去了 但他不在那里 We cannot find him. I sent a car, but he's not there.
‎找到他 Find him!
‎我一直很好奇 这件制服 I always wondered, the uniform,
‎穿着一定很不舒服吧 it must be very uncomfortable, huh?
‎很热 Very hot.
‎很难清洁 Difficult to keep clean.
‎也可能是有人帮你清洁 Or perhaps someone cleans it for you?
‎教宗要在这里见我吗 This is where we're meeting?
‎我只是奉命带您过来 I was just asked to bring you here.
‎谢谢 Grazie.
‎我以前从没进过这里 You know, I've never been in here before.
‎我是指没人的时候 When it was empty, I mean.
‎没有... No, uh...
‎访客 没有游客 visitors, no tourists.
‎我... I...
‎想好好享受与你相处的时光 wanted to experience the moment with you.
‎教宗 Padre.
‎-好 -如果我是教宗 我每天都会来这里 - Yeah. - If I was pope, I'd be in here every day.
‎-嗯 还有呢 -什么 - Yeah, what else? - What?
‎如果你被选为教宗 你还会做什么 Well, if you had been chosen, what would you do?
‎教宗 Holy Father.
‎不 这个地方会变得很不一样吧 No. This place would be different, I think. Huh?
‎-首先 我不会独自用餐 -是吗 - Well, I wouldn't eat alone, for a start. - No?
‎且不论神学上的不妥 Aside from the theology,
‎对您也没有好处 it's no good for you.
‎耶稣总是分面包 You know, Jesus was always breaking bread
‎-喂给他人 -还有呢 - and feeding people. - Well, what else?
‎我会... Well, I'd, uh...
‎我会清点银行 I'd sort out the Bank.
‎那祝你好运吧 Good luck with that.
‎银行差点毁了我的国家 Yeah, well, the banks almost destroyed my country.
‎是啊 Yeah.
‎他们乞求放宽监管 You know, they beg for deregulation,
‎就像老虎乞求被放出笼子一样 like tigers begging to be let out of a cage.
‎-没错 -他们会吞掉眼前的一切 - Yeah. - They devour everything in sight.
‎是啊 Yeah.
‎这是新的精英主义 It's new elitism.
‎是的 Yeah.
‎您开始对我要退休的事感到高兴了 You're beginning to be happy I'm going to retire.
‎你... You...
‎好几周来 我都... For many weeks now, I've been...
‎我都在祷告 祈求天主的旨意 well, I've been praying for a sign.
‎我不明白 I don't understand.
‎当我... Well, when your...
‎当我收到你要退去枢机主教职位的请求时 when your request came to me to retire as cardinal archbishop,
‎我无法立刻接受 I could not accept it, your retirement,
‎我得先... I mean, until I'd, um...
‎和你谈谈 spoken to you.
‎所以你不得不从阿根廷来罗马见我 So, you had to come from Argentina to Rome to see me.
‎还有 And, uh...
‎我想说的是 what I'm saying is,
‎也许你来到这里还有其他的使命 perhaps you had to come here for some other purpose.
‎比如呢 Like what?
‎是这样 Well...
‎我做了一个... you see, I've made a...
‎决定 一个重要的决定 a decision, an important decision, I think,
‎为了教会的存亡及未来 for the life of the Church and for her future.
‎这件事我要求你深埋于心 不能告诉任何人 Something I ask you to hide in your soul and speak of to no one.
‎你明白我的意思吗 Know what I mean?
‎-明白 -很好 - Sí. - Good.
‎有时候 You know, sometimes...
‎有时候你会注意到一些很奇怪的小事情 sometimes, you notice little things. It's very strange.
‎有天晚上 在祷告之后 You know, the other night, after... prayer,
‎我熄灭了蜡烛 然而 I put out the candle, and uh...
‎烟雾没有上升 instead of rising up...
‎而是下降了 the smoke went down,
‎就好像该隐的献祭被天主拒绝了 like Cain's offering being rejected by God.
‎你有注意到过类似的事情吗 Do you notice such things?
‎我在您要求我来见您之前 I bought my ticket for my flight here...
‎就买好了到罗马的机票 before you requested my presence.
‎-不可能 -是真的 - No. - Yes!
‎-你的机票之前就买好了吗 -是的 - Your plane ticket, you bought it before? - Yeah.
‎这给了我很大的鼓励 Well, that gives me great encouragement.
‎没错 Yeah...
‎你是合适的人选 我要退位了 You're the right person. I'm going to resign.
‎-坐在大理石上太冷了 -抱歉 - This marble is cold here. - Sorry...
‎-什么合适的人选 -被告知 - the right person for what? - To tell.
‎告知我什么 To tell what?
‎我刚刚说的 我要退位 What I just said. I'm going to resign.
‎退去什么职位 Resign from what?
‎教宗之位 The Papacy.
‎圣彼得宝座 The Chair of Saint Peter.
‎罗马主教 The Bishopric of Rome.
‎我要宣布放弃以上的所有 I'm going to renounce all of them.
‎但您不能这么做 您... But you can't. You... You...
‎-那样您就不再是教宗了 -是的 - You wouldn't be the pope anymore. - No.
‎教宗是不能退位的 Popes can't resign!
‎这不是没有先例的 It's not without precedent.
‎西莱斯廷五世于1294年退位了 Celestine V resigned, 1294.
‎难道你不知道吗 Didn't you know that?
‎教宗 难道您认为 类似的事情 Holy Father, you think... you think people will not be shocked
‎七百年前发生过 人们就不会感到震惊了吗 because this happened once before, 700 years ago?
‎这个嘛 Well...
‎我只是来这里请求您签署一份文件 I... I came here just to have you sign a piece of paper.
‎我知道 I know.
‎现在你知道我为何不能同意你退休的请求了 Now you know why I could not grant you your wish to retire.
‎还会举行一场教宗选举会议 你得在场 It would be another conclave. It is important that you're there.
‎教宗 您不能这么做 您不可以这么做 Holy Father, you must not do this. You cannot do this.
‎为什么不行 Why not?
‎为什么美国总统 Why do the presidents of America
‎俄罗斯总统 还有中国主席要来见您 and Russia and China come to you?
‎因为 Because...
‎与他们不同的是 unlike them,
‎您的权力来源于 您会在教宗之位上承受苦难 your authority comes from the fact that you will suffer and die
‎直至死去 in the job.
‎-是的 -您是正义与真理的殉道者 - Yeah. - A martyr to justice and truth.
‎正因如此 人们才皈依我们 For this, all people come.
‎请原谅我这么说 但是 Forgive me, but...
‎什么 But?
‎基督至死也没有从十字架上下来 Christ did not come down from the cross.
‎天主总是赐予你合适的话 God always grants you the right words.
‎不行 教宗必须一直坚持下去 No, no. No, a pope must go on forever.
‎作为被钉死在十字架上的基督的化身 Be the personification of the crucified Christ.
‎如果您这么做 将会彻底摧毁教宗制度 If you do this, you will damage the Papacy forever.
‎那么 Well...
‎如果我继续任职又会造成什么样的损害呢 And what damage will I do if I remain?
‎我... I...
‎两位教宗 It's... It's... two popes?
‎其实 在19... Well, in 19...
‎不行 这简直无法想象 No. It is... No, it's unthinkable.
‎其实在1978年 有三位教宗 Well, in 1978, we had three popes.
‎是的 但他们并非同时在位 Yeah, but they weren't at the same time.
‎保禄六世教宗于1978年8月6日去世后 接任的若望·保禄一世教宗 在位仅33天便去世 几天后选出若望·保禄二世
‎我只是开个小玩笑 I was making a little joke.
‎玩笑 A joke?
‎一个德国式玩笑 不需要好笑 A German joke. It doesn't have to be funny.
‎有这么一个说法 "天主总会通过 You know, there's a saying, uh, "God always...
‎带来一位新教宗来纠正上一任教宗的错误" corrects one pope by presenting the world with another pope."
‎我应该 我想看到我的错误被纠正 I should... I'd like to see my correction.
‎两位教宗都有权施令 Both commanding authority.
‎不 No.
‎只有一位有权施令 Only one would command authority.
‎我将会隐退 淡出人们视线 I would, uh, hide away, out of the spotlight.
‎沉默的化身 Silence incarnate!
‎是罗马教廷对您施压了吗 Are you being pressured to go? The Curia?
‎不是的 No, no, no.
‎如果是他们要求我退位 我会拒绝的 If there was pressure from there, I would resist.
‎不 我知道我的意图和动机是纯粹的 No, I know my intentions and my motives are pure.
‎我是一个学者 而不是一个管理者 See, I'm a scholar, not a manager.
‎别停下 Don't stop now.
‎-继续走 -没错 - Keep moving. - Yeah.
‎继续走 Keep moving.
‎而且 我... And besides, I, um...
‎别停下 Don't stop now.
‎-我装有心脏起搏器 几近半盲 -继续走 - I have a pacemaker, and I'm half-blind. - Keep moving.
‎我的左眼已经看不见了 I can no longer see out of my left eye.
‎还有 And, uh...
‎我也不具备管理所需要的敏锐洞察力 governance requires eyes that I do not have.
‎是的 Yes...
‎为了做好必做之事 I've struggled and fought to do what...
‎我一直在努力争取 但是... must be done, but, um...
‎我失败了 I've lost.
‎正是我们的脆弱唤起天主的恩典 It is our weakness that calls forth the grace of God.
‎展现出自己的脆弱 祂就会赐予我们力量 You show your weakness, He gives us strength.
‎是啊 Yeah.
‎我已经给了你答案 I've given you my answer.
‎知足吧 Be satisfied.
‎恕我直言 教宗 With respect, Holy Father...
‎需要得到满意答复的不是我 it's not me who needs to be satisfied.
‎而是十二亿信徒 It's 1.2 billion believers.
‎他们会想知道原因 They'll need to know why.
‎否则 他们会认为有什么丑闻 或者阴谋 Otherwise, they'll think there is a scandal, a... a plot.
‎这就需要领导层深思熟虑了 Well, that is the calculation of leadership.
‎我们俩都必须深思熟虑 A calculation we must both make.
‎我们俩 为什么 Both? Why?
‎好几个月以来 我一直想要退位 Well, for months, I've been, uh, wanting to resign,
‎但有个想法使我没能付诸实践 but there was one thought that prevented me from that.
‎我想 "要是下次教宗选举会议 I thought, "What if at the next conclave,
‎他们选出了那个 they voted for that, uh,
‎贝尔格里奥枢机 怎么办" Cardinal Bergoglio?"
‎选出了你 For you.
‎然后我提交了辞呈 Then I offered my resignation.
‎没错 Exactly.
‎我当时很高兴 I was delighted.
‎就像我说的 As I said...
‎我之前一直没有退位 what prevented me from resigning
‎是因为担心他们可能会把你选为教宗 was the thought that, uh, they could've chosen you, or elected you.
‎而现在你到罗马来见我了 But now you are here in Rome to see me,
‎-现在 我改变了 -你妥协了 - and now, I've changed. - You've compromised.
‎不 我改变了 No, I've changed.
‎妥协是另一回事 Compromise is something else.
‎你的风格和方法与我截然不同 Your style and your methods are entirely different to mine.
‎我完全不认同... I don't agree with any...
‎好吧 我不认同你大多数的所说所想所为 well, most of the things you say, think, or do, but, uh...
‎可是 出于某些奇怪的原因 for some strange reason,
‎如今我意识到 now I can see a...
‎由贝尔格里奥继任的必要性 a necessity for a Bergoglio.
‎但是如果不能确定你至少有 But I cannot do this without knowing that there is, at least,
‎被选上的可能 我就不能退位 a possibility that you might be chosen.
‎不 No.
‎我不可能成为教宗 It could never be me.
‎好吧 All right.
‎我们陷入僵局了 We are at an impasse.
‎如果没有我的批准 你就不能从教会退休 You cannot retire from the Church unless I agree to your going,
‎如果你不同意留下 我就不能退位 and I cannot resign until you agree to stay.
‎进退两难 这是一个神学上的两难境地 It's a conundrum. A theological conundrum.
‎您不明白 我不可能成为教宗 You don't understand. It could never be me.
‎你我都深知那是可能的 We know in our heart of hearts that it could be.
‎教会需要改变 而你能带来那些改变 The Church needs to change, and you could be that change.
‎不 不行 绝不可能是我 Oh. No. No, uh... Not me. Never.
‎-我不能做教宗 -为什么不能 - It couldn't be me. - Why not?
‎你知道原因 You know why.
‎我读过你的档案 I've read your files.
‎不 No.
‎档案并不齐全 The files... are incomplete.
‎缺失了什么 How incomplete?
‎布宜诺斯艾利斯 1976年
‎阿根廷的人民 People of Argentina:
‎我们的国家正面临历史上艰难的时刻 The country faces a hard moment in its history...
‎上世纪七十年代 In the '70s,
‎军事独裁势力推翻了政府 the government was overthrown by a military dictatorship.
‎那时 我成为了阿根廷耶稣会的领袖 At that time, I became the head of Jesuit priests in Argentina.
‎我再婚了 I remarried.
‎也就是说 你和另一个人住在一起 In other words, you live with someone.
‎每个人都成了嫌疑犯 Everybody was a suspect.
‎三万人被杀害 Thirty thousand people were killed.
‎-发生了什么 -我们的孩子呢 他们在哪 - What happened? - We want our children. Where are they?
‎发出异议的人都消失了 Anyone who disagreed disappeared.
‎艾丝特 我以前的上级 Esther, my old boss.
‎我的朋友 My friend.
‎她的女儿就是其中一员 Her daughter was among them.
‎我们阿根廷人中有成千上万的母亲和家庭 We Argentinians say there are thousands and thousands...
‎在痛苦愤怒和绝望中挣扎 of mothers and families suffering in pain, anguish, and despair.
‎我们不知道自己的孩子在哪里 We don't know where our children are!
‎他们说你们在撒谎 They say you lie.
‎我们在撒谎 We are lying?
‎我们撒谎说自己的孩子失踪了 That our children disappeared?
‎他们在哪 Where are they?
‎懦夫 Cowards!
‎那个所谓的基督教军队抓走了他们 The so-called Christian Army have them!
‎被绑架
‎许多神父被视为武装抵抗力量的支持者 Many priests were seen as supporters of the armed resistance.
‎既非压迫者 也非受压迫者 ...neither oppressors nor oppressed.
‎阿门 Amen.
‎穆希卡神父 致力于为阿根廷的穷人发声 Father Mugica, the voice of the poor in Argentina...
‎于1974年殉道 was martyred in 1974.
‎在他之后 After him...
‎很多神父和修女都被杀害了 many priests and nuns were killed.
‎我羞于谈论那段日子 教宗 This is not a time I'm proud of, Father.
‎我觉得我的任务是保障我的神父们的安全 I felt my job was to make sure my priests were safe.
‎神父 Father.
‎然后我去跟马塞拉谈 And I spoke with Massera,
‎他是军政府的领导人之一 one of the leaders of the junta.
‎想和他讲道理 Tried to reason with him.
‎上将 Admiral.
‎向他妥协 To compromise.
‎贝尔格里奥神父 从修道院来的 Father Bergoglio, from the seminary.
‎修道院 幸会 The seminary? Nice to meet you.
‎耶稣会士在那通过看书成为了马克思主义者 Where Jesuits become Marxists through books.
‎他是支持我们的 而且把书都处理掉了 He is with us and got rid of the books.
‎也许是被神父带去传教了 Maybe a priest took them to a mission.
‎这是个笑话 It is a joke.
‎我的随军神父是耶稣会士 My chaplain is a Jesuit.
‎我听着呢 贝尔格里奥 I'm listening, Bergoglio.
‎赫尔德·卡马拉 《教会与发展》 Hélder Camara, Church and Development.
‎《洋基帝国主义在拉丁美洲》 奥利瓦雷斯 Yankee Imperialism in Latin America, Olivares.
‎你好 豪尔赫 Hola, Jorge.
‎我没听懂你在电话里说的 发生了什么事 I didn't understand the call. What's happening?
‎他们在监视你 艾丝特 我们得清理屋子 They are watching you, Esther. We need to clear the house.
‎书 Books,
‎宣传册 pamphlets...
‎所有的东西 All of it.
‎为什么这么紧急 Why the urgency?
‎葛兰西 Gramsci.
‎意大利共产党的创始人之一
‎工人阶级 庇隆主义 The Working Class. Peronism.
‎以国家复兴和民族解放为主 同时主张集权
‎布莱希特 马克思 Brecht. Marx.
‎著名德国戏剧家与诗人
‎精神分析 Psychoanalysis.
‎你怎么知道他们在监视 How do you know they're watching?
‎你在跟谁联系 Who are you talking to?
‎看到这个和你一起抗议的人了吗 See this guy protesting with you?
‎古斯塔沃 Gustavo.
‎不 No.
‎他叫阿斯蒂斯 His name is Astiz.
‎他是马塞拉上将的私交 Personal friend of Admiral Massera.
‎也被称为"金发死亡天使" Otherwise known as the "Blond Angel of Death."
‎他是告密者 An informer.
‎这个狗娘养的 He's a son of a bitch.
‎你还要沉默多久 How long will you stay quiet?
‎你为什么不发声 Why don't you speak out?
‎如果我发声 我就帮不上忙了 If I speak, I can't help.
‎不 如果你发声 就会壮大我们的队伍 No. If you spoke, you would be one more, like us.
‎你想做上将的座上客 You like to be the one in the admiral's palace...
‎与他们为伍 making contacts.
‎对吧 Right?
‎那一刻 她看我的眼神像是在看一个陌生人 In this moment, she looked at me like I was a stranger.
‎带着恐惧 With fear.
‎那是我最后一次见到她 That was the last time I ever saw her.
‎她警告过我 She warned me,
‎但我没有听 and I didn't listen.
‎如果我听了 Had I listened,
‎就不会犯那些错 I would not have made the mistakes that I made.
‎我当时是他的老师 I was his teacher.
‎现在他是阿根廷耶稣会的领袖 Now he's head of the Jesuits in Argentina.
‎还有乌拉圭 And Uruguay.
‎这些小伙子是来学习技能的 These are the guys learning skills.
‎过来见见我之前提过的那些孩子 Come meet the boys I mentioned.
‎他们是真正的艺术家 They're real artists!
‎雅里克斯 Jalics!
‎你得关掉里瓦达维亚 You need to close down Rivadavia.
‎什么 What?
‎我要你关掉这个布道所 I need you to close this mission.
‎尤里奥 Yorio!
‎我们建造这里是出于使命 We didn't build this for nothing.
‎我们不能抛弃民众 We can't abandon people.
‎有马塞拉在 如果我们还没失去任何会士... With Massera, if we haven't lost a Jesuit...
‎这是因为你没有发声 It's because you didn't speak out.
‎而且让我们选择明哲保身 And made us irrelevant.
‎他们正在监视… They're watching...
‎而且并不满意他们所看到的 and don't like what they see.
‎我很清楚 I know!
‎怎么回事 什么情况 How? What?
‎你怎么知道的 豪尔赫 How do you know that, Jorge?
‎你去了魏地拉的总统府吗 Did you go to President Videla's house?
‎去举行圣餐礼吗 To give communion?
‎他们是凶手 豪尔赫 They are assassins, Jorge.
‎我的任务是保护耶稣会 My role is to protect the Order.
‎这就是我们的使命吗 保护自己 That's our calling now? To protect ourselves?
‎我教过你... I taught you...
‎如何了解基督 How do we know Christ?
‎跟随他的足迹 By following in His footsteps.
‎它们通向何方 Where do they lead?
‎这里 Here.
‎或者是刑场 Or before a firing squad!
‎如果真是这样 那就听天由命 If that's so, so be it!
‎我是你们的上级 I'm your superior.
‎我请求你们回去修道院 I'm begging you to return to the seminary!
‎如果我们不服从呢 If we don't obey?
‎你们是耶稣会士 你们发过誓 You are Jesuits. You made vows!
‎违背誓言 你们就不再属于耶稣会 Break them, and you're no longer Jesuits!
‎如果我们不是耶稣会士 就不受保护 If we aren't Jesuits, we lose protection.
‎就等于被判了死刑 It's like a death sentence.
‎所以要信守誓言 该死的 So keep your vows. Damn it!
‎我们拒绝停止工作 We refuse to cease our work.
‎你继续跟凶手一起喝茶吧 You keep drinking tea with killers.
‎听我说 Listen to me!
‎谁能帮我拯救性命 我就去找谁 I'll talk to whoever helps me save lives.
‎你得听从我 关掉这个项目 And you obey. Shut down the project!
‎这是命令 It is an order.
‎你听到了吗 这是命令 You hear? It's an order!
‎但他们拒绝听从我的命令 But they disobeyed my orders.
‎质疑我的职权 Questioned my authority.
‎你说到…你的职权 You talk about, uh... your authority.
‎你是怎么利用这个职权的 What did you do with that authority?
‎你用它拯救了几十条性命 You used it to save dozens of lives.
‎你的档案里有记录 It's in your file.
‎我给你带了些吃的... I brought you some food...
‎你让工会成员的家属 And you hid families of trade unionists
‎藏在修道院里 in the seminary.
‎你甚至还亲自开车送他们去边境 You even drove some of them up to the border yourself.
‎那并不够 It wasn't enough.
‎是 是 对你的… No. No, not for your...
‎耶稣会士兄弟来说 是不够 brother Jesuits, no.
‎这是命令 It's an order!
‎骄傲蒙蔽了我的判断力 Pride... obscured my judgment.
‎他们被剥夺了做弥撒的权利 Their right to say Mass was removed.
‎同时也失去了教会的保护 And with it, the protection of the Church.
‎我本该保护他们的 I was supposed to protect them.
‎我没能做到 I failed.
‎回家 Go home!
‎弥撒结束了 谁是神父 The Mass is over. Who's the priest?
‎冷静 Keep cool.
‎先生们 请冷静一点 Gentlemen, calm down, please.
‎尤里奥 Yorio!
‎把自己托付于天主处置并不容易 It's not easy to entrust oneself to God's mercy.
‎我知道祂有一种很特殊的能力 I know He has a very special capacity
‎祂会忘记我们的过错 for forgetting our mistakes.
‎天主会忘记 God forgets,
‎但我不会 but I don't.
‎他们被抓走 遭受了数月的折磨 They were taken away and tortured for months.
‎他们的手被折断了 Their hands were broken.
‎上将 Admiral.
‎神父 The priest.
‎进来 Come in.
‎贝尔格里奥 Bergoglio.
‎上将 Admiral.
‎我在听 I'm listening.
‎-我的神父在您手上... -维拉斯发球 - You have my priests... - Vilas serves.
‎他很厉害 对吧 He is good, right?
‎上将 Admiral,
‎我的神父雅里克斯和尤里奥… you have my priests Jalics and Yorio...
‎被您拘禁了 detained.
‎他们不参与政治 They are not political.
‎你为什么赶他们走 Why did you kick them out?
‎他们被暂时停职了 They were temporarily suspended.
‎出于技术性问题 A technical matter.
‎谁告诉你的 Who told you?
‎我们无所不知 We see and hear everything.
‎关了四个月了 Four months.
‎您对他们做了什么 What are you doing to them?
‎够了 贝尔格里奥 Enough, Bergoglio!
‎我很清楚我的神父在哪里 I know full well where my priests are!
‎他们不是你的神父 They're not your priests.
‎你刚才说了 You just said so.
‎出于"技术性问题" It's a "technical matter."
‎界内 That's in!
‎你应该谨言慎行 You should think before you act.
‎我的话没有任何效果 My words had no impact.
‎空洞无力 It was empty.
‎但你尽力了 But you did all you could.
‎-我做得还是不够 -所有的独裁统治 - It wasn't enough. - All dictatorships...
‎都会剥夺我们选择的自由 take away our freedom to choose.
‎我们都知道这一点 We both know that.
‎或者说是暴露了我们自己的弱点 Or reveal our own weaknesses.
‎然后 他们抓走了艾丝特 And then, they took Esther.
‎那么多尸体被冲上海岸 There were so many bodies washed up on the shore,
‎海岸警备队都抱怨说他们处理不过来 the Coast Guard complained they couldn't cope.
‎我亲爱的朋友 My dear friend...
‎那时我在哪里 And where was I?
‎那时基督在哪里 Where was Christ in all this?
‎他在总统府喝茶吗 Was he taking tea in the presidential palace?
‎还是在监狱里和尤里奥还有雅里克斯 Or was he being tortured in prisons,
‎一起遭受折磨 with Yorio and Jalics?
‎也许当我们回头看时 Well, perhaps the path appears straight when we...
‎来时的路才会清晰 look back at it.
‎走在路上 我们常常会感到迷失 On the way, we often feel lost.
‎灵魂的黑夜 The dark night of the soul.
‎独裁政权倒台 After the dictatorship fell
‎民主制度恢复之后 and democracy returned,
‎你的耶稣会士反过来对付你 your order turned on you.
‎你被赶出办公室 You were cast out of office,
‎被撤职 removed from your position,
‎被剥夺一切职权 stripped of all authority,
‎被派往国外 sent abroad.
‎科尔多瓦
‎他们指责你是强硬派 是右翼分子 They accused you of hard-line views, of being right-wing,
‎指责你因为做得太少和自负 of having sinned by doing too little,
‎而犯下罪过 of being egotistical.
‎你被派到山区 You were sent to the mountains,
‎被放逐 exiled.
‎请天主赐福这些食物... God bless this food...
‎两年的自我反省 Two years of introspection,
‎两年黑暗的日日夜夜 of dark days and nights.
‎两年的内心挣扎 Of interior crisis.
‎两年的改变 Of change.
‎从被排斥者的角度看新福音派
‎请保佑我 神父 因我有罪 Bless me, Father, for I have sinned.
‎我讨厌我以前的婆婆 I hate my former mother-in-law.
‎我想杀了她 I want to kill her.
‎保佑我 神父 因我有罪 Bless me, Father, for I have sinned.
‎我听了很多告解 我学会了倾听 I heard a lot of confessions. I learned to listen.
‎我有不良思想 我一天要自慰很多次 I have bad thoughts. I masturbate many times a day.
‎原谅我 神父 因我有罪 Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned.
‎我一直生活在罪过之中... I live in sin constantly...
‎我对此感到羞耻... I feel very ashamed about it...
‎我总是很抑郁 I'm always depressed.
‎带着性欲看着她们... ...looking at them with sexual desire...
‎被压迫者教育学
‎我觉得自己是个骗子... I feel I'm a fraud...
‎农民小麦
‎我以前有一台电视 I had a TV.
‎我那时喜欢看足球比赛 I liked to watch football.
‎电视需要天线和信号 A TV needs an antenna and a signal.
‎有时候信号不好 Sometimes the signal is bad.
‎不知为何 但有时就是没有信号 We don't know why, but sometimes it doesn't work.
‎我们的祷告也是一样的 It's the same when we pray.
‎有时候天主给我们的信号强烈而明确 Sometimes the signal God sends us is strong and clear.
‎运作良好 你能感受到连接 It works fine. One feels the connection,
‎感觉与天主真的有连接 that we are really plugged-in,
‎能直接沟通 in direct contact.
‎但有时候... But other days...
‎你只能说 one can only say,
‎"好吧 至少我尝试过了" "Well... at least I tried."
‎但你没有得到任何回应 But you've gotten nothing back.
‎你没有得到答案 You don't have an answer.
‎你说 "神父 您不会遇到这种情况" You say, "Father, that doesn't happen to you."
‎人们相信 我们是不同的 People believe that for us it's different,
‎相信我们能够 that we have...
‎跟天主直接对话 a direct line with God.
‎不 不是这样的 No, it's not like that.
‎我们跟你 还有你 都是一样的 For us, it's the same as for you, and you...
‎我想说的是... What I mean is...
‎今天 我没有资格给你们布道 today, I'm not worthy of delivering a sermon.
‎我的话语是空洞的 My words would be empty.
‎今天 应该由你们来教我 Today, you should teach me.
‎这样才是最好的 That would be the best.
‎这个国家经历过暴政 We have known tyranny in this country,
‎而现在又出现了新的暴政 but a new tyranny rises up.
‎不只是在这里 Not just here,
‎而是遍布全世界 but around the world.
‎你说什么暴政 你的朋友就是暴君 You talk about tyranny! Your friends were tyrants!
‎他们抓走了我们的同伴 They took away our companions!
‎你就是共犯 You are an accomplice.
‎军队的朋友 Friend of the military!
‎说实话吧 他们在哪里 Tell the truth! Where are they?
‎-他们在哪里 -他们在哪里 - Where are they? - Where are they?
‎暴政 A tyranny...
‎不仅仅包括镇压 not just of repression...
‎和压迫 and oppression...
‎或是恐怖 or terror.
‎暴政还包括造成巨大贫富差距的 A tyranny of unfair economic structures
‎不公平的经济体制 that create huge inequalities.
‎你们知道 You know,
‎世界上20%的人口 20 percent of the world's population
‎对资源的大量消耗 consumes resources
‎剥夺了贫穷国家 at a rate that robs the poor nations
‎和下一代 and future generations
‎生存的需求 of what they need to survive.
‎正如十诫中的 Just as the commandment
‎"不可杀人" "Thou shalt not kill"
‎划出了清晰的界限 sets a clear limit
‎以保护人命的价值 so to safeguard the value of human life,
‎而今天 so today,
‎我们也要对充斥着排斥和不平等的 we also have to say, "Thou shalt not"
‎拜金的经济体制 to an economy of exclusion
‎说一句 and inequality
‎"不可" which idolizes money.
‎我们号召所有群体 Every community
‎为解放贡献力量 is called to be an instrument for the liberation,
‎为了贫苦之人的解放和福祉贡献力量 the liberation and promotion of the poor.
‎建造桥梁 反对筑墙
‎有时候 跳脱自我 不再自私 How difficult it is to get out of ourselves sometimes
‎是很困难的 and stop being selfish.
‎因为我们觉得 Because we think,
‎"我会成为偶像 受人拥戴 成为主宰" "I'll be an idol, be loved, be the Lord."
‎不是这样的 It's not like that.
‎我们只有一个主宰 就在上面 There's only one Lord. Up there.
‎所以 我希望你们传球 So, I want you to pass the ball.
‎罗曼 卢卡斯在这里 看着他 Román, you have Lucas here. Look at him!
‎好 Sí.
‎-清楚了吗 -清楚 - Is it clear? - Sí.
‎-明白了吗 -明白 - Understood? - Yes.
‎开始吧 Let's play!
‎用心踢 多短传 With heart and short passes!
‎现在你们踢得才像一个团队 Now you are playing as a team.
‎我们需要桥梁 而不是高墙 谢谢 We need bridges, not walls. Thank you.
‎幸会 Nice to meet you.
‎能听到你的发言是我的荣幸 It's a pleasure to listen to you.
‎好几年后 瓜兰西诺枢机才在 It took years until Cardinal Quarracino noticed you
‎一个国际会议上注意到了你 at an international conference.
‎布宜诺斯艾利斯 1998年
‎你晋升为主教 You were made bishop.
‎但你的生活方式却不像个主教 But you did not live like one.
‎你摒弃奢华 You renounced luxury.
‎你做了当年被尤里奥神父和 You did the work once denied by
‎雅里克斯神父拒绝的事 Fathers Yorio and Jalics.
‎我试图在当年驱逐他们的道路上走下去 I tried to walk the road from which I had banished them.
‎我切的每一块蔬菜 Every vegetable I chopped,
‎我们阻止的每一次驱逐 every eviction we stopped,
‎我们赢下的每一个案子 我都视为一种补赎 every case we won, I saw as some kind of penance.
‎嗯 Yeah.
‎我只想告诉你一件小事 I'm just gonna tell you one little thing.
‎我们都遭受 We all suffer from
‎灵性骄傲之苦 spiritual pride.
‎我们都是 We all do.
‎你必须记住的是 You must remember that, uh...
‎你不是天主 you are not God.
‎"我们动作 生活 留存 都在乎天主" "In God, we move, and live, and have our being."
‎《使徒行传》第十七章第二十八节
‎我们的生活在乎天主 但我们不是天主 We live in God, but we are not of it.
‎你只是凡人 You're only human.
‎但是 基督就在那里 But... there he is.
‎凡人 是的 Human. Yeah.
‎所以... So...
‎如果你不介意的话 我的孩子 if you'll allow me, my son.
‎你必须 You must...
‎相信你所布道的仁慈 believe in the mercy that you preach.
‎我以父 及子 及圣神之名 I absolve you in the name of the Father, the Son,
‎赦免你的罪过 and of the Holy Spirit.
‎阿门 Amen.
‎谢谢您 教宗 Thank you, Father.
‎教宗 Holy Father.
‎九点了 It's nine o'clock.
‎-他们要向公众开放了 -我忘记了 - They are opening the doors to the public. - I forgot.
‎谢谢 谢谢 Grazie. Danke.
‎需要我去推迟开放的时间吗 Would you like me to delay the opening?
‎不用 大部分来访者为了参观这里 No. Most of these people have waited
‎等了大半辈子 most of their lives to see this.
‎这边 This way.
‎跟我来 我想给你看点东西 Yeah. Come with me, I want to show you something.
‎-谢谢 -这是圣器室 - Grazie. - This is the sacristy,
‎被称为泪室 known as the Chamber of Tears.
‎我不知道是高兴的泪水 还是悲伤的泪水 I don't know if they're the tears of joy or tears of sorrow.
‎我进这扇门的时候还是若瑟·拉青格 You know, I came in through that door as Joseph Ratzinger,
‎而我从这扇门出来时 and I went out through the same door
‎就成了教宗本笃十六世 as Pope Benedict XVI.
‎谢谢 Grazie.
‎谢谢 Thank you.
‎教宗 您饿了吗 Holy Father, are... are you hungry?
‎-饿吗 -是的 - Hungry? - Sí.
‎可能吧 我觉得我饿了 Yes, perhaps, you know, I think I am hungry.
‎需要我吩咐厨房... Do you want me to ask the kitchen to...
‎不需要 有一家... No, no, no, there's no need. There's a...
‎就在安吉利卡门前面 有一家店铺 There is a place just in front of the Porta Angelica.
‎你知道吗 那里的披萨和咖啡很棒 You know it? Excellent pizza and coffee.
‎-要披萨吗 -好 - Pizza? - Yeah.
‎-不用了 -不用吗 好吧 - No, no, no, no. - Oh, no? Okay.
‎披萨 好的 Pizza, okay.
‎要一份玛格丽特披萨 一份恶魔披萨 A Margherita and Diavola,
‎两瓶芬达 一杯咖啡 two Fantas, and a coffee.
‎-请勿拍照 -借过 - Please, no photos. - Excuse me.
‎借过 Excuse me.
‎这边 This way.
‎借过 Excuse me.
‎你知道吗 在过去 You know, always, in the past,
‎教宗每次用餐的时候 whenever a pope, or Holy Father, would eat,
‎在他的身边 at every meal, always at his side,
‎总会有三位耶稣会士 would be three Jesuit brothers, and...
‎他们负责帮他试菜 they were his food tasters.
‎我认为缺少耶稣会士试菜 I think the lack of Jesuits
‎可能导致了不止一位教宗被毒害 has probably poisoned more than one Holy Father.
‎或许该让我先尝一口您那块披萨 对吧 Perhaps I should take a bite out of your slice, huh?
‎安全起见 Just to be on the safe side.
‎不用 这是我的 这是我的披萨 No. No. That's mine. That's my pizza.
‎-您来说祷告词吗 教宗 -好 - Would you say grace, Holy Father? - Yes.
‎好 Yes.
‎感谢天主赐予我们眼前的食物 Thank you, Lord, for this food that we enjoy here,
‎让我们在这片不朽之地享用 in this place outside of time.
‎看啊 天主 您的教会 您的信徒 See, Lord, your Church, your flock
‎正遭受攻击 身陷危难 is under attack, is in crisis.
‎天主 请赐予我们智慧和力量 God, grant us the wisdom and the strength
‎去对抗令教会蒙羞的伪善 to oppose the hypocrisy that disfigures her.
‎圣方济各 St. Francis,
‎在我们重振教会的路上 请为我们祈求庇佑 intercede for us as we seek to repair the Church.
‎你还有什么补充吗 Would you like to add something?
‎阿门 Amen.
‎阿门 不错 Amen. It's good.
‎挺好吃的 对吧 Good, isn't it?
‎我在想 You know, I was...
‎你的两位老师 thinking about your teachers,
‎尤里奥和雅里克斯 Yorio and Jalics.
‎-你跟他们和解了吗 -跟雅里克斯和解了 - Did you ever reconcile with them? - With Jalics, yes.
‎我们一起做了一次弥撒 We said a Mass together.
‎能请你把蜡烛点燃吗 Can you light the candles, please?
‎都点好了 神父 They're lit, Father.
‎雅里克斯 Jalics.
‎能递一下圣带吗 我们迟了 Can you pass the stole? We're late.
‎以父 及子 In the name of the Father, the Son,
‎及圣灵之名 and the Holy Spirit.
‎阿门 Amen.
‎天主 请洗净 Lord, wash me clean...
‎我的罪过 from my sins,
‎使我得以主持 so I can celebrate...
‎神圣的圣餐礼 these sacred mysteries.
‎现在 我们给彼此 Now, let's give each other,
‎给所有人 everyone,
‎一个兄弟般的拥抱以获得安宁 a fraternal hug for peace.
‎我们相拥而泣 We cried... in each other's arms.
‎他原谅了我 He forgave me.
‎那尤里奥呢 And Yorio?
‎没有 No.
‎直到最后 他都把我视为叛徒 To the end, he saw me as a traitor.
‎后来他就去世了 And then he died.
‎我在阿根廷仍备受争议 I'm still seen as a divisive figure in Argentina.
‎昨天你说过 You know, yesterday you said, uh...
‎"生活是不断变化的" "Life is never static."
‎对吧 Yeah?
‎那么 Well...
‎我想说 You know...
‎领导不是靠权力 也不是靠智慧 you lead... not by power and not by intellect,
‎领导靠的是 but you lead by...
‎尤其是你 你靠的是 you particularly, you lead by...
‎你的生活方式 或曾经的生活方式 the way you live or the way you have lived.
‎你已经改变了 You've changed.
‎那个曾经的我... That man is...
‎仍然存在于我的内心 is still inside me.
‎那种疑虑 依然存在 That doubt, it... it still exists.
‎你觉得你的罪过剥夺了你的资格 You think your sins disqualify you,
‎但我们都是罪人 but we are all sinners.
‎现在 请听我的告解 Now, please, hear my confession.
‎怎么 你不让我告解吗 贝尔格里奥 Well, would you deny me a confession, Bergoglio?
‎不 别跪下 请别跪下 教宗 No, no, don't kneel. Don't kneel. Please, Holy Father.
‎请坐 Sit, please.
‎我觉得要是我坐下 那就成了非正式的告解 I think if I sit, it'll have to be an informal confession.
‎我该说什么 What should I say?
‎我不知道 你一般会说什么 I don't know. What do you usually say?
‎您上一次告解是什么时候 How long since your last confession?
‎七八天前 Eight... seven... eight days.
‎那这段时间您是否犯了重大罪过 And have you sinned greatly in that...
‎抱歉 我不是在暗示您... I'm sorry, I... I don't mean to imply that you...
‎我当然犯了罪过 Of course I've sinned.
‎许多轻微并可原谅的小罪 Several numerous venial sins, and...
‎但是我太老了 变得健忘 But I'm getting too old and, forgetful
‎记不清到底是什么罪过 to remember what they are.
‎-还能这么说吗 -能 - Can you say that? - Yeah.
‎我都不知道还能这么说 挺管用的 I didn't know you could say that. That's... That's useful.
‎我对您犯下了罪过 天主 I've sinned against you, Lord, whom I
‎我本该爱您胜过一切 should love above all things.
‎作为您的孩子 我辜负了您 As a child, I failed you first by not...
‎首先 我没有勇气去体味生活 having the courage to taste of life itself.
‎反而 我躲进书本和研究之中 Instead, I hid away in books, and then study.
‎我现在知道这 I know now that this...
‎让我缺乏对这个世界了解 left me empty and void of the world...
‎而这个世界正是教会应该帮助的 for which the Church is... meant to help.
‎继续说 Go on.
‎还记得马希尔神父吗 Remember Father Maciel?
‎十二年前有人声称 There were claims 12 years ago
‎他猥亵男童的行为 that his molesting of boys
‎持续了几十年 continued for decades...
‎对 对于分配给这个神父的职责 Yes, I did not give sufficient attention
‎我没有给予足够的重视 to the duties assigned to this one priest.
‎足够的重视 Sufficient attention?
‎一个村庄又一个村庄 Village after village?
‎对 Yeah.
‎-但你早就知道 -对 我本该知道的 - But you knew! - Yes, I should've known.
‎我本该知道的 I should've known.
‎-相关事实被呈交给我 -你说过还有更多 - The facts were sent to me. - You said there was more.
‎我的桌上放着证据 但是... Evidence was placed on my desk, but...
‎你忘了去爱你本该保护的子民 You forgot to love the people you are meant to protect.
‎是的 Yes.
‎-我请求宽恕 -教宗 - I ask forgiveness. - Father...
‎如果您要退位只是出于这个原因 if this is the sole reason you wish to resign,
‎您留下来治愈已造成的伤痛 就更为重要 it is even more important that you stay, heal the wound.
‎-听我说 -完成您已经开始的工作 - Listen to me. - Complete the work you have begun.
‎你看 我给你的每个理由都不够 You see, every reason I give you is not enough.
‎那我再跟你说一遍 So, let me tell you again,
‎我不能再坐在圣彼得宝座上了 I can no longer sit on the Chair of Saint Peter.
‎-您错了 -我感受不到天主的存在 - You're mistaken. - I cannot feel the presence of God.
‎我听不见祂的声音了 你明白吗 I do not hear His voice, do you understand me?
‎不 您错了 您弄错了 No. No, you're mistaken. You are mistaken.
‎我相信天主 我向天主祷告 I believe in God. I pray to God!
‎却毫无回音 Silence!
‎我无法再扮演这个角色了 I cannot play this role anymore.
‎我很遗憾 I'm so sorry.
‎从小时候起 Since I was a child, as a boy,
‎我一直能感受到祂就在我身边 I always felt His presence with me, at my side.
‎我的一生都是独身生活 For my entire life, I have been alone,
‎但在此之前 我从未感到孤独 but never lonely, until now.
‎我为您难过 I'm so sorry.
‎嗯 Yeah.
‎但最近两天 我听见祂的声音了 But now I can hear His voice these last two days.
‎我又听见祂的声音了 I've heard His voice again.
‎-那很好 -是啊 - I'm glad. - Yes.
‎而祂的声音是通过我最意想不到的方式传达的 And the voice is the last one I expected to hear Him speak with.
‎通过你的声音 It was your voice.
‎-不 -是的 - No. - Yeah.
‎我就想 或许我听不见祂的声音 I think, perhaps, I could not hear Him
‎不是因为祂要离我而去 not because He was withdrawing from me,
‎而是因为祂在说 but because He was saying,
‎"去吧 我忠实的仆人" "Go, my faithful servant."
‎天主 仁慈的父 God, the Father of mercies,
‎已经派圣神来到我们之中 has sent the Holy Spirit among us
‎以宽恕我们的罪过 for the forgiveness of sins.
‎愿主宽恕您 给予您安宁 May God grant you His pardon and peace.
‎而我赦免您的罪行 And I absolve you of your sins.
‎并且提醒您 And remind you...
‎真相虽然至关重要 that truth may be vital,
‎但没有了爱 but without love,
‎真相会变得难以承受 it is unbearable.
‎《在真理中我们实践爱德》 您的著作 Caritas in veritate. Your book.
‎对 Yeah.
‎以父 及子 及圣神之名 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
‎阿门 Amen.
‎你卸下了我肩上的重担 You have lifted a great burden from my shoulders.
‎您把重担放在了我肩上 You have placed a heavy one on mine.
‎还有别的出口吗 还是我应该叫保安 Is there another way out, or shall I call security?
‎不 我已经在保安身后躲了太久 No, no, no, I've hidden behind security long enough.
‎不必 他们都是我的子民 No, they're my people.
‎我是他们的教宗 至少现在还是 I'm their pope. At least, for now.
‎来吧 我们走 Come on, let's go.
‎借过 谢谢 Scusi. Grazie.
‎借过 早安 早安 Scusi. Buongiorno. Buongiorno.
‎早安 早安 谢谢 Buongiorno. Buongiorno. Grazie.
‎早安 早安 Buongiorno. Buongiorno.
‎-早安 -不 别去 由他去吧 - Buongiorno. - No, no, no, no. Leave... Leave him.
‎你看 他多开心 Look, he's happy.
‎让他享受这一刻吧 Let him have his moment.
‎要回家了你一定很开心 You must be pleased to go home.
‎说英语太累了 Speaking English is exhausting.
‎这语言太糟糕了 规则太多 例外也太多 Terrible language, so many exceptions to so many rules.
‎没错 Sí.
‎记住 Remember...
‎沉默的化身 silence incarnate.
‎你知道圣方济各的故事吗 Do you know the story of St. Francis?
‎当天主要求他 When he was asked to...
‎去复兴祂的教会时 told by God to restore His Church,
‎他以为祂指的是用砖瓦修复教堂 he thought He meant bricks and mortar.
‎可怜的圣方济各 Poor St. Francis.
‎就连他都会犯错 误解旨意 Even he made mistakes and got things wrong.
‎-是啊 -是啊 - Yeah. - Yeah.
‎那么 Well.
‎教宗 再见 Holy Father. Bye.
‎-再见 -不 抱一下吧 - Bye. - No, please.
‎-怎么 -拜托 - What? - Please.
‎怎么了 What?
‎-圣方济各喜欢跳舞 -是吗 - You know, St. Francis, he loved to dance. - Yes?
‎他如果还在世 也会学跳探戈的 He would have learned to tango.
‎-对我来说太晚了 -不晚 - Well, it's too late for me. - No, no, no, no.
‎来吧 我教您 Come. Come. I'll show you.
‎-来吧 -不了 - Come. Come. Come. - No.
‎-来试试 我教您 -别 - No, try. Come, I'll teach you. Come. - No.
‎-我不会跳舞 -没事 这样 - I can't dance. - No, so...
‎您看 我先迈右脚 Now, you see, I go forward with my right.
‎-好 -您就先迈... - Yeah. - And you go forward...
‎真难以置信 Non ci credo.
‎一 二 三 Uno, dos, tres...
‎-一 二 -一 二 - One, two... - One, two.
‎三 四 迈半步 three, four. Half-step.
‎绕一圈 绕一圈 And to the side, to the side.
‎不 不 No, no, no.
‎不 走开 No, no, go away.
‎别烦我了 别烦了 走开 快走 Leave me alone! Leave me alone! Go away! Go!
‎再见 快去机场吧 去吧 Auf Wiedersehen. Go. Go. To the airport. Go.
‎拿着 Here.
‎这个给你 That's for you.
‎-没错 《艾比路》 -谢谢 - Yeah. Abbey Road. - Well...
‎-披头士 -没错 - The Beatles. - Absolutely.
‎-快去吧 -《艾比路》 真好 - Go now. - Abbey Road. Beautiful.
‎-再见 -谢谢您 - Ciao. - Thank you.
‎朋友 Well, my friend...
‎好了 去吧 再见 Right. Go on. Auf Wiedersehen.
‎-再见 谢谢 -再见 - Auf Wiedersehen. Grazie. - Arrivederci.
‎去机场 To the airport!
‎别再把他带回来了 Don't bring him back.
‎-谢谢 -再见 - Grazie. - Arrivederci.
‎再见 Ciao.
‎♪ You were only waiting for this moment to arise ♪
‎ Blackbird - The Beatles
‎怎么了 What is it?
‎他如果要说什么不太好说出口的话 When he has something tricky to say,
‎就会说拉丁语 he speaks Latin.
‎我没听错吧 Did I hear right?
‎我不确定 Not sure.
‎你听懂了吗 Did you get that?
‎你确定吗 Are you sure?
‎教宗刚刚宣布退位 The pope just renounced.
‎什么 What?
‎是的 Sí.
‎谢谢 Grazie.
‎信不信由你 Believe it or not,
‎这是本笃十六世在位的最后一天 this is the last day of Benedict XVI's papacy.
‎感谢
‎意大利共和国
‎他要搬去冈多菲堡 在那里他将... He's moving to Gandolfo, where he will...
‎感谢
‎-圣座现在已经变成... -以他自己的话说 - The Holy See had become... - ...in his own words,
‎"只是一名依然愿意致力于公益的朝圣者" "Simply a pilgrim who will still like to work for the common good."
‎谢谢
‎全世界的天主教徒都赶来 ...world's Catholics are arriving
‎见证新教宗的选举 to see the election of a new pope,
‎而且有史以来第一次 and for the first time,
‎可能选出来自拉丁美洲或北美洲的教宗 they may see that from Latin or North America.
‎正在创造的历史 准备选出新教宗
‎许多枢机主教希望能缩小 Many of the cardinals want to narrow the gap
‎那些高墙之内所发生的事 between what happens within those walls
‎与墙外全世界的教会所发生的事之间的隔阂 and what goes on out there in the Church in the world.
‎尊敬的枢机 您认为这次教宗选举的结果 Your Eminence, do you see the conclave going in
‎会更倾向于保守派还是进步派 a more conservative direction or a more progressive one?
‎站在旧与新之间的十字路口 ...standing at a crossroads between the old and the new...
‎枢机主教们准备好了 The cardinals are getting ready,
‎几个小时后将进行第一轮新教宗选举 in a ritual hours away from the first vote for the new pope,
‎他们... and they are...
‎贝尔格里奥 Bergoglio.
‎贝尔格里奥枢机 Bergoglio Cardinalis.
‎斯科拉枢机 Scola Cardinalis.
‎贝尔格里奥枢机 贝尔格里奥枢机 Bergoglio Cardinalis. Bergoglio Cardinalis.
‎斯科拉枢机 贝尔格里奥枢机 Scola Cardinalis. Bergoglio Cardinalis.
‎贝尔格里奥枢机 贝尔格里奥枢机 Bergoglio Cardinalis. Bergoglio Cardinalis.
‎黑 白
‎贝尔格里奥枢机 贝尔格里奥枢机 Bergoglio Cardinalis. Bergoglio Cardinalis.
‎愿天主宽恕你们的选择 May God forgive you all for this.
‎别忘了贫苦之人 Don't forget the poor.
‎你有电话吗 You have a phone?
‎亲爱的兄弟姊妹们 Dear brothers and sisters...
‎教宗 抱歉 没人接 Holy Father, sorry, no reply.
‎好吧 谢谢 Bene, grazie.
‎教宗 您得选一个 Holy Father, you must choose.
‎不了 谢谢 No, grazie.
‎我戴现在这个就行了 I will wear what I am wearing.
‎谢谢 Grazie.
‎鞋子呢 The shoes?
‎这个传统自从... They're part of a tradition from...
‎不用了 我的就挺好 No, mine are fine.
‎教宗 披肩呢 Holy Father, the mozzetta?
‎不用 谢谢 狂欢已经结束了 No, thank you. The carnival is over.
‎新教宗诞生了 Habemus Papam.
‎好 Bene.
‎如果必须要流泪 If there have to be tears,
‎就让它成为喜悦的泪水吧 let's make them tears of joy.
‎谢谢 Grazie.
‎枢机主教 贝尔格里奥 Cardinale... Bergoglio!
‎兄弟姊妹们 Brothers and sisters,
‎晚上好 good evening.
‎你们都知道 You all know that...
‎教宗选举会议的职责 the duty of the conclave...
‎是为罗马选出一名主教 was to give a bishop to Rome.
‎看来我的枢机弟兄们 It seems that my cardinal brothers...
‎在世界尽头找到了人选 found one almost at the end of the world.
‎圣洛伦索队 教宗万岁
‎现在 我们齐聚在这里 Now, here we are.
‎首先 First of all,
‎我想要说一段祷文 I'd like to say a prayer
‎献给我们的前任教宗 for our Bishop...
‎荣休教宗本笃十六世 Emeritus Benedict XVI.
‎让我们一起为他祷告 Let's pray together for him.
‎姓名 Name?
‎贝尔格里奥 豪尔赫·贝尔格里奥 Bergoglio. Jorge Bergoglio.
‎和教宗同名 Like the pope?
‎这个... Well...
‎对... yes, if...
‎邮编 Postcode?
‎梵蒂冈 It's... It's Vatican City.
‎是啊 真好笑 Yes, very funny.
‎你在这里站了一整晚吗 You stand there all night?
‎是的 教宗 Yes, Holy Father.
‎真的吗 Really?
‎我想连上这里的无线网络 I am trying to get the Wi-Fi in here.
‎你知道要怎么弄吗 You know how it works?
‎无线网络 The Wi-Fi?
‎对 我想预订机票 Sí, sí. I'm trying to make a booking,
‎显然 我只能在网上预订 and apparently, the only way it can be done is online.
‎你能帮我吗 Can you help me at all?
‎当然 教宗 Of course, Holy Father.
‎稍等 Let me just...
‎我会非常感激的 I'll be very grateful.
‎-你有手机 当然了 -对 - Your phone, of course. - Yeah.
‎您要去哪里 And where to?
‎-兰佩杜萨 -兰佩杜萨 - Lampedusa. - Lampedusa.
‎-需要几个座位 -只有我 - How many seats? - Just me.
‎他们会让您独自前往吗 教宗 Would they let you go alone, Holy Father?
‎当然 Of course.
‎我是教宗 I'm the pope.
‎海岸警备队
‎马尼拉
‎墨西哥城
‎利马
‎纳姆贡戈
‎里约热内卢
‎纽约
‎萨拉热窝
‎首尔
‎科伦坡
‎内罗毕
‎哈瓦那
‎地拉那
‎波哥大
‎都柏林
‎伯利恒
‎兰佩杜萨
‎我们正在目睹冷漠的全球化 We are seeing a globalization of indifference.
‎现在有一种冲突文化 There is a culture of conflict,
‎让我们只考虑自身 which makes us think only of ourselves.
‎让我们活在肥皂泡里 Makes us live in soap bubbles...
‎而无论泡沫有多美丽 都是虚幻的 which, however lovely, are also insubstantial.
‎我们对他人的苦痛熟视无睹 We've become used to the suffering of others.
‎"又没有影响到我" "It doesn't affect me."
‎世界上没有人觉得需要负责 No one in our world feels responsible.
‎谁该为我们的兄弟姊妹们流的鲜血负责呢 Who is responsible for the blood of our brothers and sisters?
‎谁该为遇难后被冲上地中海海岸的难民负责呢 The refugees washed up on the shores of the Mediterranean?
‎"跟我没有关系 "I don't have anything to do with it.
‎这肯定是别人的事 Must be someone else.
‎肯定与我无关" Certainly, not me."
‎没人被指责的时候 When no one is to blame...
‎每个人都该被指责 everyone is to blame.
‎别停下 继续走 继续走 Don't stop now. Keep moving. Keep moving.
‎你好吗 教宗 How are you, Holy Father?
‎我还在适应 教宗 I'm adjusting, Holy Father.
‎还有 准备击溃你的队伍 And, ready to destroy you.
‎2014年世界杯决赛开始了 The World Cup Final of 2014 has begun.
‎德国队对阵阿根廷队 It's Germany versus Argentina.
‎两个强大的对手 Two great rivals.
‎他们在这里再次相遇 进行最终的决赛 Here, they meet again for the end game.
‎快看 是你 Look! It's you.
‎你很有名 You're famous.
‎阿根廷队在半决赛击败了荷兰队 This is an Argentina team that beat the Netherlands in the semi-final.
‎很激动人心 我现在能感受到那种激情了 You know, it's exciting. I get the excitement now.
‎我感受到那种激情了 I can feel the excitement.
‎很好 现在你理解了 Good, good, you understand.
‎德国队以7比1大胜巴西队 It's a Germany team that thrashed Brazil 7-1.
‎-披萨 -请让开 - Pizza. - Please, please, please.
‎对于巴西人来说 这是苦甜参半的时刻 Bittersweet moment for Brazilians,
‎他们主办了一届非常精彩的世界杯 and they have hosted a truly wonderful World Cup.
‎伊瓜因有射门机会 That's presenting Higuain with a chance!
‎而他浪费了这次机会 And the chance has been blown.
‎马斯切拉诺的触球 Mascherano's touch.
‎这是一次明显的犯规 That's an obvious foul.
‎穆勒被铲倒在地 Muller has been sent crashing to the floor...
‎阿根廷队太粗暴了 Argentina is very violent.
‎不 这是比赛的一部分 No, it's all part of the game.
‎德国球迷已经好为托尼·克罗斯的角球欢呼了 Germany fans are ready for the Toni Kroos corner.
‎赫韦德斯顶到球了 And Howedes has met it!
‎球击中门柱后弹出 被罗梅罗收下 Off the post and gathered by Romero!
‎伊瓜因在中路跑动 Higuain's on the move in the middle,
‎伊瓜因进球了 and Higuain has scored!
‎但进球无效 But it's not going to count.
‎伊瓜因越位了 Higuain was offside.
‎不 No!
‎德国队逃过一劫 What a let-off for Germany.
‎马斯切拉诺 萨巴莱塔 Mascherano. Zabaleta.
‎这是一次犯规 明显的犯规 That's a foul. That's a clear foul.
‎不 这是比赛的一部分 No, it's all part of the game.
‎干杯 Skoal.
‎接连不断的铲球和犯规 Tackle after tackle, foul after foul.
‎他挥手打到了对方 That's a swing of the arm.
‎-他流血了 -没什么的 我跟你说 - He's got blood. - It's nothing. I tell you, it's nothing.
‎-没什么的 只是擦伤 -这些球员太粗暴了 - No, it's nothing. It's a scratch. - Violent people.
‎-只是擦伤 -才不是 - It's a scratch. - No.
‎塞尔吉奥·阿奎罗本来完全有可能被罚下 Sergio Aguero is a very lucky player to still be on the field.
‎安德烈·许尔勒 Andre Schurrle.
‎试图策动进攻 Trying to make good progress.
‎他把球传进禁区 找到了格策 And he fires the ball in to Gotze!
‎不 不 No, no!
‎马里奥·格策为德国队进球了 Mario Gotze for Germany!
‎马拉卡纳体育场里上演了激动人心的一幕 What a moment in the Maracana!
‎现在德国队可以庆祝了 Now Germany can celebrate.
‎德国队是世界冠军 Germany are champions of the world!
‎太棒了 Bravo!
‎这场比赛由 The game decided
‎马里奥·格策的 by one glorious goal
‎一粒精彩的进球决定了胜负 scored by Mario Gotze.
‎德国队获胜 It's Germany!
‎恭喜 Well, congratulations.
‎一定要好好吃饭 Make sure to eat well!